Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?)

[watch1958]

Hindsight:

Warriors probably had a shot at Lavine for CP3 and fillers last season. I wasn't high on Lavine, but now looking like it would have been a STEAL.

My guess is that they hesitated to use the CP3 contract because they didn’t want to look like they were shoving Klay out the door.

So by the time Klay “voluntarily” went to Dallas CP3 was gone

[cdubbz]

Hindsight:

Warriors probably had a shot at Lavine for CP3 and fillers last season. I wasn't high on Lavine, but now looking like it would have been a STEAL.

My guess is that they hesitated to use the CP3 contract because they didn’t want to look like they were shoving Klay out the door.

So by the time Klay “voluntarily” went to Dallas CP3 was gone

Also - what would have been the Warriors situation with luxury tax and all that if they did a cp3 & fillers trade for lavine?

[NW]

Folks have amnesia when it comes to LaVine cause he’s been good this year.

Last summer, when they had to make the call, LaVine was coming off a year when the Bulls started 5-14. The LaVine got hurt and the Bulls won 8 of their next 12. Then he came back for a handful of games before having season ending surgery to kill a trade to Detroit (probably regretting that now).

He’s never been a winning player. Just a hood stats player

[watch1958]

Folks have amnesia when it comes to LaVine cause he’s been good this year.

Last summer, when they had to make the call, LaVine was coming off a year when the Bulls started 5-14. The LaVine got hurt and the Bulls won 8 of their next 12. Then he came back for a handful of games before having season ending surgery to kill a trade to Detroit (probably regretting that now).

He’s never been a winning player. Just a hood stats player

I don’t care that much about Levine. But they should have been ready to jump on using the CP3 contract. D’Jounte Murray was traded right around the same time.

[cdubbz]

Folks have amnesia when it comes to LaVine cause he’s been good this year.

Last summer, when they had to make the call, LaVine was coming off a year when the Bulls started 5-14. The LaVine got hurt and the Bulls won 8 of their next 12. Then he came back for a handful of games before having season ending surgery to kill a trade to Detroit (probably regretting that now).

He’s never been a winning player. Just a hood stats player

For me I know I was 100% against looking at Lavine and even thinking about trading for him last season or in the summer time. But knowing and seeing what I see now it's nice thought especially with how the Warriors need a scorer. His contract is up with Steph's too so perfect time to rebuild

[Jax_23]

Looney + Waters for Valanciunas

Wiggins & Schroder for CJ McCollum & Matkovic

(throw in picks as needed)


PG - Curry
SG - CJ
SF - Kuminga
PF - Draymond
C - Valanciunas

that's a strong, balanced, and vet starting 5

#2 option for Curry + low post threat

Lol, who plays defense? Steph might be the second best defender in that starting line up.

And you want to throw in picks to downgrade from wiggins to CJ?

1) Idc, this is a much better starting 5

2) Picks are for either trade, could be 2nd, and you're overvaluing Wiggins. CJ just scored 45 the other night

[zimpy27]

Folks have amnesia when it comes to LaVine cause he’s been good this year.

Last summer, when they had to make the call, LaVine was coming off a year when the Bulls started 5-14. The LaVine got hurt and the Bulls won 8 of their next 12. Then he came back for a handful of games before having season ending surgery to kill a trade to Detroit (probably regretting that now).

He’s never been a winning player. Just a hood stats player

For me I know I was 100% against looking at Lavine and even thinking about trading for him last season or in the summer time. But knowing and seeing what I see now it's nice thought especially with how the Warriors need a scorer. His contract is up with Steph's too so perfect time to rebuild

Beal is effectively in the position LaVine was, that opportunity presents now. Would you want Beal? His contract also lines up with Curry.

[DAWill1128]

Folks have amnesia when it comes to LaVine cause he’s been good this year.

Last summer, when they had to make the call, LaVine was coming off a year when the Bulls started 5-14. The LaVine got hurt and the Bulls won 8 of their next 12. Then he came back for a handful of games before having season ending surgery to kill a trade to Detroit (probably regretting that now).

He’s never been a winning player. Just a hood stats player

For me I know I was 100% against looking at Lavine and even thinking about trading for him last season or in the summer time. But knowing and seeing what I see now it's nice thought especially with how the Warriors need a scorer. His contract is up with Steph's too so perfect time to rebuild

Beal is effectively in the position LaVine was, that opportunity presents now. Would you want Beal? His contract also lines up with Curry.

The issue was not using the CP3 contract slot. If the option was let the CP3 contract slot walk or take Beal then I would take Beal. Beal is stuck behind Booker at his position which is hurting his value, here that is just not the case. The team would've been better off with a lineup of Looney, Green, Wiggins, Beal, Curry with 6th man Kuminga than the current predicament. That team has a chance of being competitive. If you have Beal it does change who offensive players get matched up on, likely Wiggins gets assigned a weaker defender nightly. Kuminga would be getting the worst of the four perimeter defenders on him and he's a tough one one cover to be the 4th option. Beal in the non-Steph minutes seems like a luxury compared to running plays through Hield.

If the front office this offseason said we are at serious risk of losing the CP3 contract slot. We can either let the CP3 contract slot walk or roll the dice and see if Lavine can come in healthy and contribute. I would take the Lavine route, see if he can be healthy, see if he can help you win games. Even if we don't win games we can still try to get him running full speed and see if we can restore his trade value. The media is speculating the Bulls have went from having to trade him and include pick(s) to now getting picks. If we were bad and he netted a 1st rounder and a 2nd I would say that was a great deal.

[NW]

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Been saying for awhile, Butler's price point might drop to the point that you have to have the conversation.

If it's Wiggins, matching salary, no Kuminga, no Podz, no draft pick..............

[Onus]

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Been saying for awhile, Butler's price point might drop to the point that you have to have the conversation.

If it's Wiggins, matching salary, no Kuminga, no Podz, no draft pick..............

Our front office isn't capable of handling a malcontent like Jimmy unless we're ready to offer him a max extension (which we shouldn't) it's not going to go well.

[NW]

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Been saying for awhile, Butler's price point might drop to the point that you have to have the conversation.

If it's Wiggins, matching salary, no Kuminga, no Podz, no draft pick..............

Our front office isn't capable of handling a malcontent like Jimmy unless we're ready to offer him a max extension (which we shouldn't) it's not going to go well.

If you’re trading for Butler, the extension is a given imo. The extension lines up with Curry, Dray and Kerr’s contracts.

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Been saying for awhile, Butler's price point might drop to the point that you have to have the conversation.

If it's Wiggins, matching salary, no Kuminga, no Podz, no draft pick..............

JK needs to be part of the deal or he will just walk for nothing. We dont have anything left to pay him after Butler's 45M

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Been saying for awhile, Butler's price point might drop to the point that you have to have the conversation.

If it's Wiggins, matching salary, no Kuminga, no Podz, no draft pick..............

JK needs to be part of the deal or he will just walk for nothing. We dont have anything left to pay him after Butler's 45M

Jk has to go out in any butler deal.

Paying steph, butler, and jk 150M next season is crazy.

[NW]

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Been saying for awhile, Butler's price point might drop to the point that you have to have the conversation.

If it's Wiggins, matching salary, no Kuminga, no Podz, no draft pick..............

JK needs to be part of the deal or he will just walk for nothing. We dont have anything left to pay him after Butler's 45M

Jk has to go out in any butler deal.

Paying steph, butler, and jk 150M next season is crazy.

Less about the money, it ain’t mine and Lacob ain’t afraid to spend, as the fit. Dray/Butler/JK don’t make sense, so might as well move JK. He and the remaining expiring should get a good shooting guard/wing.

And here we go:
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[whatisacenter]

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Been saying for awhile, Butler's price point might drop to the point that you have to have the conversation.

If it's Wiggins, matching salary, no Kuminga, no Podz, no draft pick..............

JK needs to be part of the deal or he will just walk for nothing. We dont have anything left to pay him after Butler's 45M

Jk has to go out in any butler deal.

Paying steph, butler, and jk 150M next season is crazy.

So is paying Steph, Dray and Butler 130-145M.

I don't want Butler anywhere near this team.

[Crazy-Canuck]

JK needs to be part of the deal or he will just walk for nothing. We dont have anything left to pay him after Butler's 45M

Jk has to go out in any butler deal.

Paying steph, butler, and jk 150M next season is crazy.

So is paying Steph, Dray and Butler 130-145M.

I don't want Butler anywhere near this team.

Only way it makes any sense, even minimal, is if it's dray and/or jk going out.

And I agree dray and Jimmy make little sense sense since they'd both be 4s under kerr. Jimmy has already been transitioning there anyways the last 2 years.

A) Steph/jimmy/wiggins 140M
B) Steph/jimmy/dray 140M
C) Steph/jimmy/jk 145M

Jimmy at his age, contract demands, temperament, and fit isn't good.

[cpower]

Jk has to go out in any butler deal.

Paying steph, butler, and jk 150M next season is crazy.

So is paying Steph, Dray and Butler 130-145M.

I don't want Butler anywhere near this team.

Only way it makes any sense, even minimal, is if it's dray and/or jk going out.

And I agree dray and Jimmy make little sense sense since they'd both be 4s under kerr. Jimmy has already been transitioning there anyways the last 2 years.

A) Steph/jimmy/wiggins 140M
B) Steph/jimmy/dray 140M
C) Steph/jimmy/jk 145M

Jimmy at his age, contract demands, temperament, and fit isn't good.

its not great but Curry Podz Wiggins Butler Looney is a pretty good lineup.

[DAWill1128]

Keep in mind Schroeder, GP2, and Looney will all be free agents. Anderson and Hields minutes fans want going to Santos and Moody.

Schroeder+GP2+Looney+Hield+Anderson+picks
For
Butler

C Post, TJD
PF Green, Santos
SF Butler, Kuminga, Waters
SG Wiggins, Moody, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz
Or
C Green, Post, TJD
PF Wiggins, Santos
SF Butler, Kuminga
SG Waters, Moody, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz
Or
C Green, Post, TJD
PF Santos, Kuminga
SF Butler, Moody
SG Wiggins, Waters, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz

[Crazy-Canuck]

Keep in Schroeder, GP2, and Looney will all be free agents. Anderson and Hields minutes fans want going to Santos and Moody.

Schroeder+GP2+Looney+Hield+Anderson+picks
For
Butler

C Post, TJD
PF Green, Santos
SF Butler, Kuminga, Waters
SG Wiggins, Moody, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz
Or
C Green, Post, TJD
PF Wiggins, Santos
SF Butler, Kuminga
SG Waters, Moody, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz
Or
C Green, Post, TJD
PF Santos, Kuminga
SF Butler, Moody
SG Wiggins, Waters, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz

We can't do a 5 for 1 deal due to the hard cap. We wouldn't be able to fill a roster.

Based on the reports that Miami wants to still contend this year and not rebuild, I'm pretty sure they'd want wiggins in any deal.

Bam and ware is a monster frontcourt and they have herro. They want a 2 way wing who isn't old nor overly expensive .... just like every team in the NBA. Draft capital is probably the issue.

[NW]

Keep in Schroeder, GP2, and Looney will all be free agents. Anderson and Hields minutes fans want going to Santos and Moody.

Schroeder+GP2+Looney+Hield+Anderson+picks
For
Butler

C Post, TJD
PF Green, Santos
SF Butler, Kuminga, Waters
SG Wiggins, Moody, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz
Or
C Green, Post, TJD
PF Wiggins, Santos
SF Butler, Kuminga
SG Waters, Moody, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz
Or
C Green, Post, TJD
PF Santos, Kuminga
SF Butler, Moody
SG Wiggins, Waters, Spencer
PG Curry, Podz

Heat won’t take Hield or Anderson cause they dip into their 2026 plans. You’d have to give draft capital, that I doubt Lacob is willing to, for them to consider it.