Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?)

[Onus]

It's so hard to make a trade with Miami since the money has to be exactly the same

[xdrta+]

It's so hard to make a trade with Miami since the money has to be exactly the same

Well, being an Apron team Miami can't take back more than they send out but the Warriors can send salary to a third team to stay under the hard cap and have enough room to fill the roster if necessary.

[NW]

Wiggins, Schroder and GP2 or Looney seems to work. Then you have whichever of GP2 or Loon you don’t trade, plus Hield’s one year left fully guaranteed plus Kuminga to use to fill other spots be it at center or, more likely, the SG/wing spot.

[xdrta+]

Wiggins, Schroder and GP2 or Looney seems to work. Then you have whichever of GP2 or Loon you don’t trade, plus Hield’s one year left fully guaranteed plus Kuminga to use to fill other spots be it at center or, more likely, the SG/wing spot.

The advantage of using Looney is that it gives an extra $1M room below the hard cap because of his unlikely incentive. Unlikely incentives don't count toward the cap but do count toward the Apron (hard cap) total. In your example, using Looney gives $2M+ to fill the two empty spots with rest-of-season contracts.

[bay2hk]

Here is the core trade for Jimmy:

- GSW receives Jimmy Butler
- Heat receives - Schroder, Heild, Anderson, GP2, Looney, waters and two SRP

We will need to bring a team like Detroit to help facilitate the trade with their $14m cap space. Detroit may be willing to take on Schroder for their playoff run.

Heat will do this trade because Suns cannot trade Beal and Suns other players’ contract runs past the 2026 offseason when Luka will be FA. Our package provides Heat with the best flexibility to rebuild for the future.

[Onus]

Schroder to Det since they have a need for another creator would make things interesting since they could just take him into their open cap space. That would open up a lot of leeway for a trade for Butler.

[TB]

Here is the core trade for Jimmy:

- GSW receives Jimmy Butler
- Heat receives - Schroder, Heild, Anderson, GP2, Looney, waters and two SRP

We will need to bring a team like Detroit to help facilitate the trade with their $14m cap space. Detroit may be willing to take on Schroder for their playoff run.

Heat will do this trade because Suns cannot trade Beal and Suns other players’ contract runs past the 2026 offseason when Luka will be FA. Our package provides Heat with the best flexibility to rebuild for the future.

And if heat don't want both of the Buddy/Kyle longer deals (even though they do sort of fit there), Pistons might actually be good taking Buddy since both their shooting wings are expiring (THJ and Beasley). Then Dennis expiring goes to Miami and only Kyle is on the books past this year.

[NW]

Shams.

Butler talks with Suns and Warriors ongoing.

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[Onus]

Heat still want draft assets? Laughable

[ILOVEIT]

Hmmm....I'm not a fan of trading for Butler without solving the stretch big issue. If Warriors could acquire Butler and Vuc...then I think Warriors have a shot at a title.

[TB]

Hmmm....I'm not a fan of trading for Butler without solving the stretch big issue. If Warriors could acquire Butler and Vuc...then I think Warriors have a shot at a title.

I'd rather just play Post than ever bringing Vuc to this team. Plus, bringing in Jimmy means we are embracing small ball, with Jimmy/Dray as our 4/5 when it counts. Trayce/Post to eat as much center minutes as possible to keep them fresh.

Dray and Jimmy both have shot higher percentage from 3 than Vuc over the last 4 years combined. Sure, Vuc is shooting it good so far this season, but it's already trending down (27% in January). And if he isn't around 40%, it's almost a guarantee he's hurting his team because he's a pretty awful player all-around.

[whatisacenter]

A lineup of Curry, Butler, Green and Vuc would would be so old and unathletic that they would get run off the floor.

What are you people watching?

[BayAreaDub]

Here is the core trade for Jimmy:

- GSW receives Jimmy Butler
- Heat receives - Schroder, Heild, Anderson, GP2, Looney, waters and two SRP

We will need to bring a team like Detroit to help facilitate the trade with their $14m cap space. Detroit may be willing to take on Schroder for their playoff run.

Heat will do this trade because Suns cannot trade Beal and Suns other players’ contract runs past the 2026 offseason when Luka will be FA. Our package provides Heat with the best flexibility to rebuild for the future.

Does Looney even need to be in there? Trade checker works with GP2, Hield, Anderson, Moody and Schroeder. That’s even with Reed and Beasley coming back from Detroit.

If we could get a couple more scrubs to make it a 4 for 4 trade then we can maintain the min roster requirements and stay under whatever tax thing we need to worry about. Probably doesn’t happen here but wishful thinking.

That’s the only way I’d feel comfy with Butler. Or Draymond for him lol.

[Onus]

Hmmm....I'm not a fan of trading for Butler without solving the stretch big issue. If Warriors could acquire Butler and Vuc...then I think Warriors have a shot at a title.

I'd rather just play Post than ever bringing Vuc to this team. Plus, bringing in Jimmy means we are embracing small ball, with Jimmy/Dray as our 4/5 when it counts. Trayce/Post to eat as much center minutes as possible to keep them fresh.

Dray and Jimmy both have shot higher percentage from 3 than Vuc over the last 4 years combined. Sure, Vuc is shooting it good so far this season, but it's already trending down (27% in January). And if he isn't around 40%, it's almost a guarantee he's hurting his team because he's a pretty awful player all-around.

I just don’t get the vuc love. He’s not a good 3 shooter. Is a terrible defender.

[Jester_]

Hmmm....I'm not a fan of trading for Butler without solving the stretch big issue. If Warriors could acquire Butler and Vuc...then I think Warriors have a shot at a title.

Curry - Butler - Dray - Vooch are you insane

my toddler could outrun that team

[ILOVEIT]

A lineup of Curry, Butler, Green and Vuc would would be so old and unathletic that they would get run off the floor.

What are you people watching?

You're right. Better to have Looney....or the none stretch poor finisher TJD....or a rookie who plays like Vuc but isn't close to being as polished. Sarcasm aside.... Butler ensures Warriors are old and slower....so making the move for him doesn't make sense if that's the thinking.

[ILOVEIT]

Hmmm....I'm not a fan of trading for Butler without solving the stretch big issue. If Warriors could acquire Butler and Vuc...then I think Warriors have a shot at a title.

I'd rather just play Post than ever bringing Vuc to this team. Plus, bringing in Jimmy means we are embracing small ball, with Jimmy/Dray as our 4/5 when it counts. Trayce/Post to eat as much center minutes as possible to keep them fresh.

Dray and Jimmy both have shot higher percentage from 3 than Vuc over the last 4 years combined. Sure, Vuc is shooting it good so far this season, but it's already trending down (27% in January). And if he isn't around 40%, it's almost a guarantee he's hurting his team because he's a pretty awful player all-around.

I just don’t get the vuc love. He’s not a good 3 shooter. Is a terrible defender.

He's shooting 40% from three and grabbing 10 rebounds a game. ?

[ILOVEIT]

Hmmm....I'm not a fan of trading for Butler without solving the stretch big issue. If Warriors could acquire Butler and Vuc...then I think Warriors have a shot at a title.

I'd rather just play Post than ever bringing Vuc to this team. Plus, bringing in Jimmy means we are embracing small ball, with Jimmy/Dray as our 4/5 when it counts. Trayce/Post to eat as much center minutes as possible to keep them fresh.

Dray and Jimmy both have shot higher percentage from 3 than Vuc over the last 4 years combined. Sure, Vuc is shooting it good so far this season, but it's already trending down (27% in January). And if he isn't around 40%, it's almost a guarantee he's hurting his team because he's a pretty awful player all-around.

I don't hate just going with Post. But as far as defense goes, I've not seen any indication he can block shots well even at 7'. In that case, I don't seem him (at this point...which is the point) being a better defender than Vuc.

[Onus]

I'd rather just play Post than ever bringing Vuc to this team. Plus, bringing in Jimmy means we are embracing small ball, with Jimmy/Dray as our 4/5 when it counts. Trayce/Post to eat as much center minutes as possible to keep them fresh.

Dray and Jimmy both have shot higher percentage from 3 than Vuc over the last 4 years combined. Sure, Vuc is shooting it good so far this season, but it's already trending down (27% in January). And if he isn't around 40%, it's almost a guarantee he's hurting his team because he's a pretty awful player all-around.

I just don’t get the vuc love. He’s not a good 3 shooter. Is a terrible defender.

He's shooting 40% from three and grabbing 10 rebounds a game. ?

Draymond shot 40% from 3 last year. What is that supposed to mean?

[NW]

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