Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[EvanZ]

Braun just got 5/125. Always liked him.

[Onus]

I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?

This whole thing we want to be good 15 years after Steph, is crazy to me. The odds of us getting another top 10 player of all time is so slim and that fact that you’re not going all out to win while you still have a top 10 player of all time while playing at a top 5 player level is just insane.

People think we’ll attract free agents, sf is not the place to be for young millionaires. There’s no places to go. You literally have to fight for women because there are so few and you’re also going against tech money for their attention. We are not going to be a destination in the future.

Dallas has an owner that was treating everyone to five star treatment and they couldn’t attract anyone. Great ownership is not what attracts young nba players.

The bulls have been trash since mj. They had the front office, they have the history, and no one wants to take that mantle.

There is no guarantee that we get another top 10 player of all time in the next 20 years and people are ok with not giving everything for our literal franchise goat and people really think this is going to be a destination? This just gives off vibes of we’re planning for the future at all times so if you come here we’re already thinking about how we can replace you and that’s supposed to be attractive?

Very much agree on the 'never getting another top 10 player" and "going all out." The rest of it is just weird.

SF is a great destination for young people from all over the world. The 'fight for women' bit just sounds like personal frustration. Between the youth in the region, the money/business opps, and the weather, there are few better places to be. Since we lost cohan, we haven't had much trouble attracting FAs. Is that curry, lacob, or other reasons? Not sure. Everyone raves about how 1st class the org is and the only time we had enough money to sign a max guy, KD chose to come here.

Dallas is a terrible town to be rich, young, and black. They haven't exactly knocked it out of the part with their own draft picks, FAs, or trades. Not sure what would attract me to dallas, especially after everyone started pimping out the team plane and practice facility.

The bulls had the FO? What? Following MJ is hard enough but playing for that FO? It's a dumpster fire, why would anyone want to go to chicago? Same POS owner that chased out Jordan and co. I mean, if lacob refuses to pay Steve and Steph has to 'retire' only to come back in 2 years and play for Charlotte, we will certainly have trouble finding FAs in the future. It was self-immolation by the bulls in '98 and everyone knew it.

If I look past the handwringing, all these 'why haven't we gone all in' complaints are about not trading our picks when we had good ones (or our current future picks). I mean, sure... but people seem to be far more confident about what trades were offered and why they broke down than what is actually being reported, often years after the fact.

Could we have moved wigs + JK for Pascal? At one point, I thought we turned it down, then I thought pascal refused to come here, and last thing I heard was that Tor had no interest in JK. Which of those is true? Likely none of them.

This team pays out of the nose, makes hard decisions, and starts out every season trying to win. I would have thought after the cohan years, we'd recognize this when we see it.

You need to leave the bay area bubble. The women in SF don't compare to LA/NYC/Miami.

Dallas shows you it's not about how you treat the players. Chicago shows you it's not about the front office.

Lacob continues to refuse to trade future draft picks while continually looking to build for after Steph than building the best team around a current top 5 player in the league.

Is Lacob better than Cohan? Yes. Is Lacob putting all his resources into winning a title in 2026? No.

[vvoland]

This whole thing we want to be good 15 years after Steph, is crazy to me. The odds of us getting another top 10 player of all time is so slim and that fact that you’re not going all out to win while you still have a top 10 player of all time while playing at a top 5 player level is just insane.

People think we’ll attract free agents, sf is not the place to be for young millionaires. There’s no places to go. You literally have to fight for women because there are so few and you’re also going against tech money for their attention. We are not going to be a destination in the future.

Dallas has an owner that was treating everyone to five star treatment and they couldn’t attract anyone. Great ownership is not what attracts young nba players.

The bulls have been trash since mj. They had the front office, they have the history, and no one wants to take that mantle.

There is no guarantee that we get another top 10 player of all time in the next 20 years and people are ok with not giving everything for our literal franchise goat and people really think this is going to be a destination? This just gives off vibes of we’re planning for the future at all times so if you come here we’re already thinking about how we can replace you and that’s supposed to be attractive?

Very much agree on the 'never getting another top 10 player" and "going all out." The rest of it is just weird.

SF is a great destination for young people from all over the world. The 'fight for women' bit just sounds like personal frustration. Between the youth in the region, the money/business opps, and the weather, there are few better places to be. Since we lost cohan, we haven't had much trouble attracting FAs. Is that curry, lacob, or other reasons? Not sure. Everyone raves about how 1st class the org is and the only time we had enough money to sign a max guy, KD chose to come here.

Dallas is a terrible town to be rich, young, and black. They haven't exactly knocked it out of the part with their own draft picks, FAs, or trades. Not sure what would attract me to dallas, especially after everyone started pimping out the team plane and practice facility.

The bulls had the FO? What? Following MJ is hard enough but playing for that FO? It's a dumpster fire, why would anyone want to go to chicago? Same POS owner that chased out Jordan and co. I mean, if lacob refuses to pay Steve and Steph has to 'retire' only to come back in 2 years and play for Charlotte, we will certainly have trouble finding FAs in the future. It was self-immolation by the bulls in '98 and everyone knew it.

If I look past the handwringing, all these 'why haven't we gone all in' complaints are about not trading our picks when we had good ones (or our current future picks). I mean, sure... but people seem to be far more confident about what trades were offered and why they broke down than what is actually being reported, often years after the fact.

Could we have moved wigs + JK for Pascal? At one point, I thought we turned it down, then I thought pascal refused to come here, and last thing I heard was that Tor had no interest in JK. Which of those is true? Likely none of them.

This team pays out of the nose, makes hard decisions, and starts out every season trying to win. I would have thought after the cohan years, we'd recognize this when we see it.

You need to leave the bay area bubble. The women in SF don't compare to LA/NYC/Miami.

Dallas shows you it's not about how you treat the players. Chicago shows you it's not about the front office.

Lacob continues to refuse to trade future draft picks while continually looking to build for after Steph than building the best team around a current top 5 player in the league.

Is Lacob better than Cohan? Yes. Is Lacob putting all his resources into winning a title in 2026? No.

I don't think you realize young men with tens of millions of dollars aren't limited by a city's female population. You think all of Ant's BMs are from the twin cities? Or Zion's only sleeping w/ the women of NO?

More importantly, if an nba FA is choosing his city based on how the women compare, I don't particularly care to sign him.

Chicago very much shows me it's not about the front office. What FA have they got despite being a big city, having a ton of local talent, and having the limelight? If they had a competent FO, they would be far more successful but they can't have that with that same owner.

I've lived in multiple counties and states, including one of the cities you mentioned. Not sure that's the tree you want to bark up. The bay, by virtually any metric, is a great place to be young and rich, especially as a young man of color. Is LA, NY or Mia also great? Yes. Do we have an advantage over those 3? Probably not. Do we have a massive advantage over most of the rest of the league? Yes.

In addition to draft picks, you need salary, if only as ballast, and the broader cap rules. Trading Dray or Jimmy would have tough this summer, if only in finding a trade partner. There were no other salaries to trade for anyone making over 20M. You want to trade moody and 3 FRPs for Deni? I might be on board. Is portland? Probably not.

Could the org have done more before the 21-22 title? Certainly. But we did win that year and, at that point, wiseman had no value and JK and MM were still in their infancy. What did you actually want them to do this summer to "put all your resources into winning the '26 title?" Trade JK/MM for monk?

[Onus]

Very much agree on the 'never getting another top 10 player" and "going all out." The rest of it is just weird.

SF is a great destination for young people from all over the world. The 'fight for women' bit just sounds like personal frustration. Between the youth in the region, the money/business opps, and the weather, there are few better places to be. Since we lost cohan, we haven't had much trouble attracting FAs. Is that curry, lacob, or other reasons? Not sure. Everyone raves about how 1st class the org is and the only time we had enough money to sign a max guy, KD chose to come here.

Dallas is a terrible town to be rich, young, and black. They haven't exactly knocked it out of the part with their own draft picks, FAs, or trades. Not sure what would attract me to dallas, especially after everyone started pimping out the team plane and practice facility.

The bulls had the FO? What? Following MJ is hard enough but playing for that FO? It's a dumpster fire, why would anyone want to go to chicago? Same POS owner that chased out Jordan and co. I mean, if lacob refuses to pay Steve and Steph has to 'retire' only to come back in 2 years and play for Charlotte, we will certainly have trouble finding FAs in the future. It was self-immolation by the bulls in '98 and everyone knew it.

If I look past the handwringing, all these 'why haven't we gone all in' complaints are about not trading our picks when we had good ones (or our current future picks). I mean, sure... but people seem to be far more confident about what trades were offered and why they broke down than what is actually being reported, often years after the fact.

Could we have moved wigs + JK for Pascal? At one point, I thought we turned it down, then I thought pascal refused to come here, and last thing I heard was that Tor had no interest in JK. Which of those is true? Likely none of them.

This team pays out of the nose, makes hard decisions, and starts out every season trying to win. I would have thought after the cohan years, we'd recognize this when we see it.

You need to leave the bay area bubble. The women in SF don't compare to LA/NYC/Miami.

Dallas shows you it's not about how you treat the players. Chicago shows you it's not about the front office.

Lacob continues to refuse to trade future draft picks while continually looking to build for after Steph than building the best team around a current top 5 player in the league.

Is Lacob better than Cohan? Yes. Is Lacob putting all his resources into winning a title in 2026? No.

I don't think you realize young men with tens of millions of dollars aren't limited by a city's female population. You think all of Ant's BMs are from the twin cities? Or Zion's only sleeping w/ the women of NO?

More importantly, if an nba FA is choosing his city based on how the women compare, I don't particularly care to sign him.

Chicago very much shows me it's not about the front office. What FA have they got despite being a big city, having a ton of local talent, and having the limelight? If they had a competent FO, they would be far more successful but they can't have that with that same owner.

I've lived in multiple counties and states, including one of the cities you mentioned. Not sure that's the tree you want to bark up. The bay, by virtually any metric, is a great place to be young and rich, especially as a young man of color. Is LA, NY or Mia also great? Yes. Do we have an advantage over those 3? Probably not. Do we have a massive advantage over most of the rest of the league? Yes.

In addition to draft picks, you need salary, if only as ballast, and the broader cap rules. Trading Dray or Jimmy would have tough this summer, if only in finding a trade partner. There were no other salaries to trade for anyone making over 20M. You want to trade moody and 3 FRPs for Deni? I might be on board. Is portland? Probably not.

Could the org have done more before the 21-22 title? Certainly. But we did win that year and, at that point, wiseman had no value and JK and MM were still in their infancy. What did you actually want them to do this summer to "put all your resources into winning the '26 title?" Trade JK/MM for monk?

Yes they can ship women in, or they could just have women there, which you would have in LA, NY, Miami. So you agree SF doesn't compare to LA, NY, Miami?

There's no point in discussing the hypotheticals since there's no way to prove it would work either way. But the fact is that Lacob and the front office have not used all their assets to win another title.

[EvanZ]

Is Lacob better than Cohan? Yes. Is Lacob putting all his resources into winning a title in 2026? No.

Honestly, it's not clear to me there really are any moves to make that are moving the needle right now. I guess he can try to flip JK and two firsts for Trey Murphy? Not sure they bite on that one. Maybe for Herb Jones? But two firsts is really costly.

[vvoland]

You need to leave the bay area bubble. The women in SF don't compare to LA/NYC/Miami.

Dallas shows you it's not about how you treat the players. Chicago shows you it's not about the front office.

Lacob continues to refuse to trade future draft picks while continually looking to build for after Steph than building the best team around a current top 5 player in the league.

Is Lacob better than Cohan? Yes. Is Lacob putting all his resources into winning a title in 2026? No.

I don't think you realize young men with tens of millions of dollars aren't limited by a city's female population. You think all of Ant's BMs are from the twin cities? Or Zion's only sleeping w/ the women of NO?

More importantly, if an nba FA is choosing his city based on how the women compare, I don't particularly care to sign him.

Chicago very much shows me it's not about the front office. What FA have they got despite being a big city, having a ton of local talent, and having the limelight? If they had a competent FO, they would be far more successful but they can't have that with that same owner.

I've lived in multiple counties and states, including one of the cities you mentioned. Not sure that's the tree you want to bark up. The bay, by virtually any metric, is a great place to be young and rich, especially as a young man of color. Is LA, NY or Mia also great? Yes. Do we have an advantage over those 3? Probably not. Do we have a massive advantage over most of the rest of the league? Yes.

In addition to draft picks, you need salary, if only as ballast, and the broader cap rules. Trading Dray or Jimmy would have tough this summer, if only in finding a trade partner. There were no other salaries to trade for anyone making over 20M. You want to trade moody and 3 FRPs for Deni? I might be on board. Is portland? Probably not.

Could the org have done more before the 21-22 title? Certainly. But we did win that year and, at that point, wiseman had no value and JK and MM were still in their infancy. What did you actually want them to do this summer to "put all your resources into winning the '26 title?" Trade JK/MM for monk?

Yes they can ship women in, or they could just have women there, which you would have in LA, NY, Miami. So you agree SF doesn't compare to LA, NY, Miami?

There's no point in discussing the hypotheticals since there's no way to prove it would work either way. But the fact is that Lacob and the front office have not used all their assets to win another title.

I'm neither young nor a millionaire but I don't think zion and co are chasing after the "women there".. from most of the very embarassing news reports, it seems like instagram dms and i doubt the young lady's location is the key factor for the anthony edwards's of the world.

Yes, I think SF blows all 3 of those cities out of the water and i've spent a fair bit of time in two of them (not miami). The traffic alone makes LA and NYC a biiiig step below SF. I can definitely see other people ranking those 4 cities in a completely different way. I'd add Chicago and Houston to that list. Maybe even PHX. Those 7 are tier 1. Everyone else need not apply.

The reason NYC couldn't get a FA for 2 decades isn't because the city was worse. When Lebron and CB chose Miami was it because of the city or the org/riley? I'd guess the latter.

Forget proving a hypothetical. Considering the avenues available to the dubs (JK in RFA, 2nd apron issues, Steph/Jimmy/Dray taking up 80% of the cap, only 1 contract over 10M other than the big 3), what would you have them do?

[Onus]

Is Lacob better than Cohan? Yes. Is Lacob putting all his resources into winning a title in 2026? No.

Honestly, it's not clear to me there really are any moves to make that are moving the needle right now. I guess he can try to flip JK and two firsts for Trey Murphy? Not sure they bite on that one. Maybe for Herb Jones? But two firsts is really costly.

I think we really missed out on Caruso and probably Cam Johnson. Right now, no one is even available so we'll have to wait closer to the trade deadline to see who is.

[Onus]

I don't think you realize young men with tens of millions of dollars aren't limited by a city's female population. You think all of Ant's BMs are from the twin cities? Or Zion's only sleeping w/ the women of NO?

More importantly, if an nba FA is choosing his city based on how the women compare, I don't particularly care to sign him.

Chicago very much shows me it's not about the front office. What FA have they got despite being a big city, having a ton of local talent, and having the limelight? If they had a competent FO, they would be far more successful but they can't have that with that same owner.

I've lived in multiple counties and states, including one of the cities you mentioned. Not sure that's the tree you want to bark up. The bay, by virtually any metric, is a great place to be young and rich, especially as a young man of color. Is LA, NY or Mia also great? Yes. Do we have an advantage over those 3? Probably not. Do we have a massive advantage over most of the rest of the league? Yes.

In addition to draft picks, you need salary, if only as ballast, and the broader cap rules. Trading Dray or Jimmy would have tough this summer, if only in finding a trade partner. There were no other salaries to trade for anyone making over 20M. You want to trade moody and 3 FRPs for Deni? I might be on board. Is portland? Probably not.

Could the org have done more before the 21-22 title? Certainly. But we did win that year and, at that point, wiseman had no value and JK and MM were still in their infancy. What did you actually want them to do this summer to "put all your resources into winning the '26 title?" Trade JK/MM for monk?

Yes they can ship women in, or they could just have women there, which you would have in LA, NY, Miami. So you agree SF doesn't compare to LA, NY, Miami?

There's no point in discussing the hypotheticals since there's no way to prove it would work either way. But the fact is that Lacob and the front office have not used all their assets to win another title.

I'm neither young nor a millionaire but I don't think zion and co are chasing after the "women there".. from most of the very embarassing news reports, it seems like instagram dms and i doubt the young lady's location is the key factor for the anthony edwards's of the world.

Yes, I think SF blows all 3 of those cities out of the water and i've spent a fair bit of time in two of them (not miami). The traffic alone makes LA and NYC a biiiig step below SF. I can definitely see other people ranking those 4 cities in a completely different way. I'd add Chicago and Houston to that list. Maybe even PHX. Those 7 are tier 1. Everyone else need not apply.

The reason NYC couldn't get a FA for 2 decades isn't because the city was worse. When Lebron and CB chose Miami was it because of the city or the org/riley? I'd guess the latter.

Forget proving a hypothetical. Considering the avenues available to the dubs (JK in RFA, 2nd apron issues, Steph/Jimmy/Dray taking up 80% of the cap, only 1 contract over 10M other than the big 3), what would you have them do?

Our biggest FA signing before Steph was Corey Maggette or Derek Fisher. We'll see who we attract after Steph.

Lebron and KD wanted to go the NY but were wary of ownership. Good thing James Dolan owns the Knicks otherwise they would've gotten a lot more free agents.

The latest trades that they should've done were trading for Caruso or Cam Johnson.

[vvoland]

Is Lacob better than Cohan? Yes. Is Lacob putting all his resources into winning a title in 2026? No.

Honestly, it's not clear to me there really are any moves to make that are moving the needle right now. I guess he can try to flip JK and two firsts for Trey Murphy? Not sure they bite on that one. Maybe for Herb Jones? But two firsts is really costly.

I think we really missed out on Caruso and probably Cam Johnson. Right now, no one is even available so we'll have to wait closer to the trade deadline to see who is.

Sure, caruso could have helped, but you're now upset about what we didn't do 12 months ago. That's not completely unfair but a bit of moving the goalposts. Playing caruso at the expense of Podz probably gets us a few more wins but, despite not being a podz guy, I don't think caruso really moves the needle on a team with so many combo guards.

Cam? Eh. I don't think he's much better than moody but I guess we'll find out this year seeing him next to jokic. Last time he played meaningful games, covid just jumped off.

If those are the two big misses you're chalking up to this FO, it's quite debatable just how much of a mistake it was. Hell, if melton doesn't get hurt, does caruso even start OR close for the dubs last year? Not exactly selling draft picks for cash or moving on from the current roster, imo.

[vvoland]

Yes they can ship women in, or they could just have women there, which you would have in LA, NY, Miami. So you agree SF doesn't compare to LA, NY, Miami?

There's no point in discussing the hypotheticals since there's no way to prove it would work either way. But the fact is that Lacob and the front office have not used all their assets to win another title.

I'm neither young nor a millionaire but I don't think zion and co are chasing after the "women there".. from most of the very embarassing news reports, it seems like instagram dms and i doubt the young lady's location is the key factor for the anthony edwards's of the world.

Yes, I think SF blows all 3 of those cities out of the water and i've spent a fair bit of time in two of them (not miami). The traffic alone makes LA and NYC a biiiig step below SF. I can definitely see other people ranking those 4 cities in a completely different way. I'd add Chicago and Houston to that list. Maybe even PHX. Those 7 are tier 1. Everyone else need not apply.

The reason NYC couldn't get a FA for 2 decades isn't because the city was worse. When Lebron and CB chose Miami was it because of the city or the org/riley? I'd guess the latter.

Forget proving a hypothetical. Considering the avenues available to the dubs (JK in RFA, 2nd apron issues, Steph/Jimmy/Dray taking up 80% of the cap, only 1 contract over 10M other than the big 3), what would you have them do?

Our biggest FA signing before Steph was Corey Maggette or Derek Fisher. We'll see who we attract after Steph.

Lebron and KD wanted to go the NY but were wary of ownership. Good thing James Dolan owns the Knicks otherwise they would've gotten a lot more free agents.

The latest trades that they should've done were trading for Caruso or Cam Johnson.

That's kind of my point. The owner matters much more than the city. If lacob keeps doing things like he has been, he will not be an obstacle to getting FAs (like Cohan was). The bay will not be an obstacle either (like OKC is).

Corey and Fisher were the cohan regime. Who was the FA lacob pursued but didn't sign?

[Onus]

Honestly, it's not clear to me there really are any moves to make that are moving the needle right now. I guess he can try to flip JK and two firsts for Trey Murphy? Not sure they bite on that one. Maybe for Herb Jones? But two firsts is really costly.

I think we really missed out on Caruso and probably Cam Johnson. Right now, no one is even available so we'll have to wait closer to the trade deadline to see who is.

Sure, caruso could have helped, but you're now upset about what we didn't do 12 months ago. That's not completely unfair but a bit of moving the goalposts. Playing caruso at the expense of Podz probably gets us a few more wins but, despite not being a podz guy, I don't think caruso really moves the needle on a team with so many combo guards.

Cam? Eh. I don't think he's much better than moody but I guess we'll find out this year seeing him next to jokic. Last time he played meaningful games, covid just jumped off.

If those are the two big misses you're chalking up to this FO, it's quite debatable just how much of a mistake it was. Hell, if melton doesn't get hurt, does caruso even start OR close for the dubs last year? Not exactly selling draft picks for cash or moving on from the current roster, imo.

The rumor was JK for Caruso which we declined. Caruso is one of the best wing defenders in the league. We'd be playing Curry/Melton/Caruso/Butler/Dray.

Nuggets are going to be really good this year.

[Onus]

I'm neither young nor a millionaire but I don't think zion and co are chasing after the "women there".. from most of the very embarassing news reports, it seems like instagram dms and i doubt the young lady's location is the key factor for the anthony edwards's of the world.

Yes, I think SF blows all 3 of those cities out of the water and i've spent a fair bit of time in two of them (not miami). The traffic alone makes LA and NYC a biiiig step below SF. I can definitely see other people ranking those 4 cities in a completely different way. I'd add Chicago and Houston to that list. Maybe even PHX. Those 7 are tier 1. Everyone else need not apply.

The reason NYC couldn't get a FA for 2 decades isn't because the city was worse. When Lebron and CB chose Miami was it because of the city or the org/riley? I'd guess the latter.

Forget proving a hypothetical. Considering the avenues available to the dubs (JK in RFA, 2nd apron issues, Steph/Jimmy/Dray taking up 80% of the cap, only 1 contract over 10M other than the big 3), what would you have them do?

Our biggest FA signing before Steph was Corey Maggette or Derek Fisher. We'll see who we attract after Steph.

Lebron and KD wanted to go the NY but were wary of ownership. Good thing James Dolan owns the Knicks otherwise they would've gotten a lot more free agents.

The latest trades that they should've done were trading for Caruso or Cam Johnson.

That's kind of my point. The owner matters much more than the city. If lacob keeps doing things like he has been, he will not be an obstacle to getting FAs (like Cohan was). The bay will not be an obstacle either (like OKC is).

Corey and Fisher were the cohan regime. Who was the FA lacob pursued but didn't sign?

Has Lacob owned a team without Steph Curry on it?

[vvoland]

I think we really missed out on Caruso and probably Cam Johnson. Right now, no one is even available so we'll have to wait closer to the trade deadline to see who is.

Sure, caruso could have helped, but you're now upset about what we didn't do 12 months ago. That's not completely unfair but a bit of moving the goalposts. Playing caruso at the expense of Podz probably gets us a few more wins but, despite not being a podz guy, I don't think caruso really moves the needle on a team with so many combo guards.

Cam? Eh. I don't think he's much better than moody but I guess we'll find out this year seeing him next to jokic. Last time he played meaningful games, covid just jumped off.

If those are the two big misses you're chalking up to this FO, it's quite debatable just how much of a mistake it was. Hell, if melton doesn't get hurt, does caruso even start OR close for the dubs last year? Not exactly selling draft picks for cash or moving on from the current roster, imo.

The rumor was JK for Caruso which we declined. Caruso is one of the best wing defenders in the league. We'd be playing Curry/Melton/Caruso/Butler/Dray.

Nuggets are going to be really good this year.

I don't think Jimmy or Dray would have survived 35 games of that lineup after the trade last year and certainly not for 82 games this season. Playing them at 4/5 will be the move come playoff time but for the RS, I would not press that button. It is also quite short on shooting. Would the defense be enough? probably. That's a hard way to play. That's before we get to the fact that Melton and JB can't be on this team at the same time (last season) as we needed the former's salary to trade for the latter.

Again, on balance, you think caruso is that much better than what we had to start the year 12 months ago : Melton, Podz, Buddy, and MM.

[vvoland]

I think we really missed out on Caruso and probably Cam Johnson. Right now, no one is even available so we'll have to wait closer to the trade deadline to see who is.

Sure, caruso could have helped, but you're now upset about what we didn't do 12 months ago. That's not completely unfair but a bit of moving the goalposts. Playing caruso at the expense of Podz probably gets us a few more wins but, despite not being a podz guy, I don't think caruso really moves the needle on a team with so many combo guards.

Cam? Eh. I don't think he's much better than moody but I guess we'll find out this year seeing him next to jokic. Last time he played meaningful games, covid just jumped off.

If those are the two big misses you're chalking up to this FO, it's quite debatable just how much of a mistake it was. Hell, if melton doesn't get hurt, does caruso even start OR close for the dubs last year? Not exactly selling draft picks for cash or moving on from the current roster, imo.

The rumor was JK for Caruso which we declined. Caruso is one of the best wing defenders in the league. We'd be playing Curry/Melton/Caruso/Butler/Dray.

Nuggets are going to be really good this year.

Barring injuries, I think we'll do better than the nuggs.

People think bruce brown and cam johnson are the players they remember from years ago. They may be. It is no guarantee. Same people were saying how much ayton is an improvement over jaxon hayes. after people saw ayton play for the first time since his time in PHX, that talk has died down.

[whatisacenter]

JK + Hield or Moody for Jrue.
Lets get old!

Pass for POR

Hey JRoy,

It was a curious move for me when Portland traded for Jrue....What do you think your team will end up doing with him?

With Scoot out Jrue is good insurance to have and I could see him being a good trade deadline chip for a team missing a piece. Houston would be a great trade partner IMO with their bounty of assets and FVV being injured.

[Onus]

Sure, caruso could have helped, but you're now upset about what we didn't do 12 months ago. That's not completely unfair but a bit of moving the goalposts. Playing caruso at the expense of Podz probably gets us a few more wins but, despite not being a podz guy, I don't think caruso really moves the needle on a team with so many combo guards.

Cam? Eh. I don't think he's much better than moody but I guess we'll find out this year seeing him next to jokic. Last time he played meaningful games, covid just jumped off.

If those are the two big misses you're chalking up to this FO, it's quite debatable just how much of a mistake it was. Hell, if melton doesn't get hurt, does caruso even start OR close for the dubs last year? Not exactly selling draft picks for cash or moving on from the current roster, imo.

The rumor was JK for Caruso which we declined. Caruso is one of the best wing defenders in the league. We'd be playing Curry/Melton/Caruso/Butler/Dray.

Nuggets are going to be really good this year.

I don't think Jimmy or Dray would have survived 35 games of that lineup after the trade last year and certainly not for 82 games this season. Playing them at 4/5 will be the move come playoff time but for the RS, I would not press that button. It is also quite short on shooting. Would the defense be enough? probably. That's a hard way to play. That's before we get to the fact that Melton and JB can't be on this team at the same time (last season) as we needed the former's salary to trade for the latter.

Again, on balance, you think caruso is that much better than what we had to start the year 12 months ago : Melton, Podz, Buddy, and MM.

Pressure defense is how you win in the regular season. That's what OKC was able to do and they were able to win a ton of games based on just forcing a ton of turnovers.

Barring injuries, I think we'll do better than the nuggs.

Bold take!

[vvoland]

JK + Hield or Moody for Jrue.
Lets get old!

Pass for POR

Hey JRoy,

It was a curious move for me when Portland traded for Jrue....What do you think your team will end up doing with him?

With Scoot out Jrue is good insurance to have and I could see him being a good trade deadline chip for a team missing a piece. Houston would be a great trade partner IMO with their bounty of assets and FVV being injured.

I know i'm not the one you asked but I think Por is trying to make the playoffs (why?) and will keep Jrue.

[whatisacenter]

I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?

This whole thing we want to be good 15 years after Steph, is crazy to me. The odds of us getting another top 10 player of all time is so slim and that fact that you’re not going all out to win while you still have a top 10 player of all time while playing at a top 5 player level is just insane.

People think we’ll attract free agents, sf is not the place to be for young millionaires. There’s no places to go. You literally have to fight for women because there are so few and you’re also going against tech money for their attention. We are not going to be a destination in the future.

Dallas has an owner that was treating everyone to five star treatment and they couldn’t attract anyone. Great ownership is not what attracts young nba players.

The bulls have been trash since mj. They had the front office, they have the history, and no one wants to take that mantle.

There is no guarantee that we get another top 10 player of all time in the next 20 years and people are ok with not giving everything for our literal franchise goat and people really think this is going to be a destination? This just gives off vibes of we’re planning for the future at all times so if you come here we’re already thinking about how we can replace you and that’s supposed to be attractive?

Do you live in SF Bay Area?

Nothing to do? No places to go? Fighting for women?

I moved here in the late 80's and was swimming in the dating pool!

Sound like a you thing...

[whatisacenter]

Pass for POR

Hey JRoy,

It was a curious move for me when Portland traded for Jrue....What do you think your team will end up doing with him?

With Scoot out Jrue is good insurance to have and I could see him being a good trade deadline chip for a team missing a piece. Houston would be a great trade partner IMO with their bounty of assets and FVV being injured.

I know i'm not the one you asked but I think Por is trying to make the playoffs (why?) and will keep Jrue.

I like what the Blazers are doing.

They have some good young talent and having a veteran like Jrue as a mentor who can still ball wouldn't be the worst thing.

[Onus]

I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?

This whole thing we want to be good 15 years after Steph, is crazy to me. The odds of us getting another top 10 player of all time is so slim and that fact that you’re not going all out to win while you still have a top 10 player of all time while playing at a top 5 player level is just insane.

People think we’ll attract free agents, sf is not the place to be for young millionaires. There’s no places to go. You literally have to fight for women because there are so few and you’re also going against tech money for their attention. We are not going to be a destination in the future.

Dallas has an owner that was treating everyone to five star treatment and they couldn’t attract anyone. Great ownership is not what attracts young nba players.

The bulls have been trash since mj. They had the front office, they have the history, and no one wants to take that mantle.

There is no guarantee that we get another top 10 player of all time in the next 20 years and people are ok with not giving everything for our literal franchise goat and people really think this is going to be a destination? This just gives off vibes of we’re planning for the future at all times so if you come here we’re already thinking about how we can replace you and that’s supposed to be attractive?

Do you live in SF Bay Area?

Nothing to do? No places to go? Fighting for women?

I moved here in the late 80's and was swimming in the dating pool!

Sound like a you thing...

Used to live in NYC now. NYC is infinitely better for going out. There really is no contest between the 2. I really don't want this to delve into this conversation but as the saying goes, a SF 10 is a LA 6.