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Post#421 » by clyde21 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:01 pm

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xfactor99 wrote:Agreed. I would only draft a center high in the draft if he is an unbelievable offensive force (e.g. Towns, Jokic) or elite rim protector (Gobert, Embiid). Even Ayton at #1 is questionable in the modern NBA. Wiseman does not even profile as well as Ayton, Wiseman lacks...basketball IQ and defensive intelligence and is just relying on pure athleticism at this point. Also, you can get by in the modern NBA with centers on minimums. Forget Wiseman.



ding ding ding

that would be Evan Mobley next year.


If Evan is off the board would you take Badji with Minny's pick?


too early to tell, i think my point was more that Mobley is more of a C that you take top3/5 as opposed to Wiseman in terms of skill set, we'll see
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#422 » by clyde21 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:43 pm

would it be possible to do a S&T with OKC after the season?

OKC gets: Wiggins, our 1st

GSW gets: Gallo, OKC 1st, Denver 1st
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#423 » by Marcus » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:14 pm

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ding ding ding

that would be Evan Mobley next year.


If Evan is off the board would you take Badji with Minny's pick?


too early to tell, i think my point was more that Mobley is more of a C that you take top3/5 as opposed to Wiseman in terms of skill set, we'll see


oh i know what you meant just thinking with the Minny pick you might actually have a shot at Badji, Barnes, Uruba, Todd depending on how things flesh out. So was wondering what your thoughts were with that pick because Mobley is likely off the table by the time that pick comes up if things flesh out as they should next year.

your thoughts on Wiggins on your team btw good sir?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#424 » by Mylie10 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:17 pm

I'll be interested to see if Wiseman plays in the games at the combine.

His measurables should be big time. But I have this feeling he's not going to play in those rag tag games.
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Post#425 » by Mylie10 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:19 pm

clyde21 wrote:would it be possible to do a S&T with OKC after the season?

OKC gets: Wiggins, our 1st

GSW gets: Gallo, OKC 1st, Denver 1st


Ooo...that's juicy. Gallo needs an extension.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#426 » by clyde21 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:29 pm

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If Evan is off the board would you take Badji with Minny's pick?


too early to tell, i think my point was more that Mobley is more of a C that you take top3/5 as opposed to Wiseman in terms of skill set, we'll see


oh i know what you meant just thinking with the Minny pick you might actually have a shot at Badji, Barnes, Uruba, Todd depending on how things flesh out. So was wondering what your thoughts were with that pick because Mobley is likely off the table by the time that pick comes up if things flesh out as they should next year.

your thoughts on Wiggins on your team btw good sir?


hate it, but i like the 21 pick :)
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Post#427 » by Mylie10 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:32 pm

More and more, as time goes by, I think we're trading our pick this year for a veteran
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Post#428 » by Marcus » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:02 pm

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too early to tell, i think my point was more that Mobley is more of a C that you take top3/5 as opposed to Wiseman in terms of skill set, we'll see


oh i know what you meant just thinking with the Minny pick you might actually have a shot at Badji, Barnes, Uruba, Todd depending on how things flesh out. So was wondering what your thoughts were with that pick because Mobley is likely off the table by the time that pick comes up if things flesh out as they should next year.

your thoughts on Wiggins on your team btw good sir?


hate it, but i like the 21 pick :)


i mean he's no KD obviously but he'd be an upgrade from Barnes right? and yes that 21 pick is the real gold right there. If it lands 5-10 what would be ideal for you with what you know about the prospects in that class today?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#429 » by clyde21 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:03 pm

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oh i know what you meant just thinking with the Minny pick you might actually have a shot at Badji, Barnes, Uruba, Todd depending on how things flesh out. So was wondering what your thoughts were with that pick because Mobley is likely off the table by the time that pick comes up if things flesh out as they should next year.

your thoughts on Wiggins on your team btw good sir?


hate it, but i like the 21 pick :)


i mean he's no KD obviously but he'd be an upgrade from Barnes right? and yes that 21 pick is the real gold right there. If it lands 5-10 what would be ideal for you with what you know about the prospects in that class today?


i don't think he's an upgrade on Barnes, and Barnes wasn't really good, but at least Barnes was a passable defender who could switch to guard PFs which helped enable the original death lineup, i'm not buying that Wiggins can do that at this point

it's nice to have another scorer on the roster other than Steph/Klay but Wiggins is such an inefficient scorer that I'm not even sure it's a positive thing at this point either unless he dramatically does a better job at picking his spots/decision making.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#430 » by Marcus » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:10 pm

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hate it, but i like the 21 pick :)


i mean he's no KD obviously but he'd be an upgrade from Barnes right? and yes that 21 pick is the real gold right there. If it lands 5-10 what would be ideal for you with what you know about the prospects in that class today?


i don't think he's an upgrade on Barnes, and Barnes wasn't really good, but at least Barnes was a passable defender who could switch to guard PFs which helped enable the original death lineup, i'm not buying that Wiggins can do that at this point

it's nice to have another scorer on the roster other than Steph/Klay but Wiggins is such an inefficient scorer that I'm not even sure it's a positive thing at this point either unless he dramatically does a better job at picking his spots/decision making.


as you know i'm not super high on Wiggins but i find myself landing on the side of this being a better fit for him not so much in terms of ability but in terms of personality and temperment so there is a chance we see him shine in this particular role with a whole GState roster next year. a kind of Odom to Steph and Klays Kobe Pau combo if that makes sense. A talented piece never really slated to be the man but perfectly content and even thrives in being a guy vice being THE guy.

what you wanna do with that 21 though?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#431 » by clyde21 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:30 pm

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i mean he's no KD obviously but he'd be an upgrade from Barnes right? and yes that 21 pick is the real gold right there. If it lands 5-10 what would be ideal for you with what you know about the prospects in that class today?


i don't think he's an upgrade on Barnes, and Barnes wasn't really good, but at least Barnes was a passable defender who could switch to guard PFs which helped enable the original death lineup, i'm not buying that Wiggins can do that at this point

it's nice to have another scorer on the roster other than Steph/Klay but Wiggins is such an inefficient scorer that I'm not even sure it's a positive thing at this point either unless he dramatically does a better job at picking his spots/decision making.


as you know i'm not super high on Wiggins but i find myself landing on the side of this being a better fit for him not so much in terms of ability but in terms of personality and temperment so there is a chance we see him shine in this particular role with a whole GState roster next year. a kind of Odom to Steph and Klays Kobe Pau combo if that makes sense. A talented piece never really slated to be the man but perfectly content and even thrives in being a guy vice being THE guy.

what you wanna do with that 21 though?


i hope you're right but i just don't have any faith in Wiggins tbh

depends on where we're picking, I have no idea where Minny is gonna end up next year a lot of people think it's gonna be a top10 pick but I'm not so sure tbh. ideally it's high enough to have a chance at Mobley or Cade.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#432 » by freypies » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:44 pm

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i don't think he's an upgrade on Barnes, and Barnes wasn't really good, but at least Barnes was a passable defender who could switch to guard PFs which helped enable the original death lineup, i'm not buying that Wiggins can do that at this point

it's nice to have another scorer on the roster other than Steph/Klay but Wiggins is such an inefficient scorer that I'm not even sure it's a positive thing at this point either unless he dramatically does a better job at picking his spots/decision making.


as you know i'm not super high on Wiggins but i find myself landing on the side of this being a better fit for him not so much in terms of ability but in terms of personality and temperment so there is a chance we see him shine in this particular role with a whole GState roster next year. a kind of Odom to Steph and Klays Kobe Pau combo if that makes sense. A talented piece never really slated to be the man but perfectly content and even thrives in being a guy vice being THE guy.

what you wanna do with that 21 though?


i hope you're right but i just don't have any faith in Wiggins tbh

depends on where we're picking, I have no idea where Minny is gonna end up next year a lot of people think it's gonna be a top10 pick but I'm not so sure tbh. ideally it's high enough to have a chance at Mobley or Cade.


I think getting Mobley or Cade is highly unlikely if they continue being projected as high in their college season as well. Cade especially has a high chance of being the number 1 pick, so unless either of them somehow fall and become picks 4-8, I think the protection makes it incredibly hard to get them. Sucks, because I would absolutely love Cade on the team.

Who do you think we should pick if we can't get Cade or Mobley? I hear there are a lot of promising wings, but I have not yet looked into the class enough.
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Post#433 » by clyde21 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:51 pm

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as you know i'm not super high on Wiggins but i find myself landing on the side of this being a better fit for him not so much in terms of ability but in terms of personality and temperment so there is a chance we see him shine in this particular role with a whole GState roster next year. a kind of Odom to Steph and Klays Kobe Pau combo if that makes sense. A talented piece never really slated to be the man but perfectly content and even thrives in being a guy vice being THE guy.

what you wanna do with that 21 though?


i hope you're right but i just don't have any faith in Wiggins tbh

depends on where we're picking, I have no idea where Minny is gonna end up next year a lot of people think it's gonna be a top10 pick but I'm not so sure tbh. ideally it's high enough to have a chance at Mobley or Cade.


I think getting Mobley or Cade is highly unlikely if they continue being projected as high in their college season as well. Cade especially has a high chance of being the number 1 pick, so unless either of them somehow fall and become picks 4-8, I think the protection makes it incredibly hard to get them. Sucks, because I would absolutely love Cade on the team.

Who do you think we should pick if we can't get Cade or Mobley? I hear there are a lot of promising wings, but I have not yet looked into the class enough.


Jalen Green or Usman Garuba, i dunno we'll see, so many moving parts between now and then, our needs might change, we don't know where Minny is picking, how these guys look in the next year etc.
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Post#434 » by chef_martin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:31 pm

I know this probably isn't that high on the wishlist, but I'd love it if the Warriors packaged their 2 2nd round picks and some money to go get Tyrell Terry in the 2nd round. Just take a chance on a guy who might turn into a Steph-lite.
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Post#435 » by freypies » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:29 pm

I'm seriously starting to like Deni Avdija the more I watch him. His often seems to have improved quite a bit since the tepid beginning at Tel Aviv, and his defense shows potential. Anyone else?
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Post#436 » by TB » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:22 am

freypies wrote:I'm seriously starting to like Deni Avdija the more I watch him. His often seems to have improved quite a bit since the tepid beginning at Tel Aviv, and his defense shows potential. Anyone else?


Same. He's top 5 for me, behind 3 guys i'm having to talk myself into.

1. Wiseman - uhhh I guess...
2. Edwards - Not thrilled, but the talent is there and seems high character. From college spacing on crappy Georgia team to NBA and splash brothers, he might be WAY better in NBA.
3. Ball - I'm sure he's a top 5 talent. Also sure I want a different team to draft him.
4. Avdija - As a prospect he's more Saric/Claver than Luka/Gallo, but I think he ends up between Saric and Gallo impact wise.
5. Okoro - Reminds me of a forward Jrue Holiday. Better than his stats will show.
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Post#437 » by whatisacenter » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:42 am

freypies wrote:I'm seriously starting to like Deni Avdija the more I watch him. His often seems to have improved quite a bit since the tepid beginning at Tel Aviv, and his defense shows potential. Anyone else?


I don't really watch international basketball and have only seen his highlights(which always look good) but he looks big, athletic and skilled, especially for a young guy. He plays on the wing in a spread offense which is good for style translation to the NBA. He looks interesting but I just don't have any idea of the level of competition he is playing against.
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Post#438 » by freypies » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:05 am

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freypies wrote:I'm seriously starting to like Deni Avdija the more I watch him. His often seems to have improved quite a bit since the tepid beginning at Tel Aviv, and his defense shows potential. Anyone else?


I don't really watch international basketball and have only seen his highlights(which always look good) but he looks big, athletic and skilled, especially for a young guy. He plays on the wing in a spread offense which is good for style translation to the NBA. He looks interesting but I just don't have any idea of the level of competition he is playing against.


Same here when he is playing in Israel. But recently he's not doing poorly in the Euroleague either.

I really like his ability to be a complementary playmaker to Steph and Draymond on the Warriors. His 3pt shooting seems to be improving too, and his ability to playmake from the post is pretty unique for a wing.

I think he's my second favorite prospect for GS after Okoro right now.
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Post#439 » by BballIntellect » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:45 am

I'm sure Okoro and Avdija are talented but we need a guy who can shoot. Teams will play even uglier on Steph and Klay and be content with leaving nearly half of the lineup wide open. This can't happen anymore especially now that Steph and Klay are in their 30's.

We can't be the only team in the league with two non shooting players in the lineup unless we draft a generational talent like Zion but this draft is so far away from having a player of this caliber. Guys who are sub 35% three point shooters (sub 30% in this case) shouldn't even be a consideration.
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Post#440 » by wco81 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:39 pm

Yeah but Kawhi couldn't shoot coming into the league. But now he can consistently shoot 40% from 3.

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