Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?)

[Onus]

I agree but plenty were willing to dump jk for DC just to turn the page.

That’s dependent on them only valuing him as a salary filler. I’m still unsure why they offered a 1+1. The most likely scenario was always going to be picking that option up and then he becomes a fa

Since he's on his 2nd contract, he's no longer a RFA after this contract, this is a way for GS to have more control of keeping Kuminga vs him leaving for nothing. If he buys in (and he is) GS will want to keep Kuminga and can offer to decline the TO and hand him a big 4–5-year contract and expect he doesn't Boozer them. If he doesn't want to resign with GS, they opt in on the TO and either think they can sell him on staying in GS over the next season or trade him and his Bird rights to somewhere he wants to extend at.

This is also why I've gotten in an argument in one of these threads before the season started saying it's possible with how Kuminga's playing he's no longer going to be moved and the next guy of value and somewhat sizable salary to move would be Moody and having Richard on the minimum able to do some of what Moody does at a fraction of the price makes that easier to do. Of course, Moody is better than Richard, but sometimes you have to shuffle around talent to make your roster as good as it can be. Moving Podz means you're bringing back someone less than his 3.6 million contract and if you start stacking contracts you have an issue of getting to the 14-man active minimum while being hard capped.

If JK continues to play like this do we really need to make a move? The only thing we really need is Al insurance and do we really want to overpay for Al insurance?

[vvoland]

That’s dependent on them only valuing him as a salary filler. I’m still unsure why they offered a 1+1. The most likely scenario was always going to be picking that option up and then he becomes a fa

Since he's on his 2nd contract, he's no longer a RFA after this contract, this is a way for GS to have more control of keeping Kuminga vs him leaving for nothing. If he buys in (and he is) GS will want to keep Kuminga and can offer to decline the TO and hand him a big 4–5-year contract and expect he doesn't Boozer them. If he doesn't want to resign with GS, they opt in on the TO and either think they can sell him on staying in GS over the next season or trade him and his Bird rights to somewhere he wants to extend at.

This is also why I've gotten in an argument in one of these threads before the season started saying it's possible with how Kuminga's playing he's no longer going to be moved and the next guy of value and somewhat sizable salary to move would be Moody and having Richard on the minimum able to do some of what Moody does at a fraction of the price makes that easier to do. Of course, Moody is better than Richard, but sometimes you have to shuffle around talent to make your roster as good as it can be. Moving Podz means you're bringing back someone less than his 3.6 million contract and if you start stacking contracts you have an issue of getting to the 14-man active minimum while being hard capped.

If JK continues to play like this do we really need to make a move? The only thing we really need is Al insurance and do we really want to overpay for Al insurance?

IF jk continues to play like this, I like AirP's idea of MM+picks for kessler. I like the idea of Podz + TJD + picks even more but the ainges aren't stupid.

[Onus]

Since he's on his 2nd contract, he's no longer a RFA after this contract, this is a way for GS to have more control of keeping Kuminga vs him leaving for nothing. If he buys in (and he is) GS will want to keep Kuminga and can offer to decline the TO and hand him a big 4–5-year contract and expect he doesn't Boozer them. If he doesn't want to resign with GS, they opt in on the TO and either think they can sell him on staying in GS over the next season or trade him and his Bird rights to somewhere he wants to extend at.

This is also why I've gotten in an argument in one of these threads before the season started saying it's possible with how Kuminga's playing he's no longer going to be moved and the next guy of value and somewhat sizable salary to move would be Moody and having Richard on the minimum able to do some of what Moody does at a fraction of the price makes that easier to do. Of course, Moody is better than Richard, but sometimes you have to shuffle around talent to make your roster as good as it can be. Moving Podz means you're bringing back someone less than his 3.6 million contract and if you start stacking contracts you have an issue of getting to the 14-man active minimum while being hard capped.

If JK continues to play like this do we really need to make a move? The only thing we really need is Al insurance and do we really want to overpay for Al insurance?

IF jk continues to play like this, I like AirP's idea of MM+picks for kessler. I like the idea of Podz + TJD + picks even more but the ainges aren't stupid.

You would really trade MM or Podz + 2 1sts for a player that might play 20 mpg? IDK seems steep. It's way too early to be discussing trades anyway without finding out what this team really needs with more games and data points.

[wco81]

JK is an attractive trade asset because he's playing on a 1-year contract basically.

If they don't trade him, they will exercise the team option and then look to trade him by next season's trade deadline.

That's hoping that Giannis forces his way out, which is really unlikely and even if he asks out, it would likely be to the Knicks or one of the asset-rich teams will make the best offer.


Otherwise, what trade targets would be worth sending out several rotation players plus FRPs? If this team wins 48 or more games, that means they have good rotation players. So to send those out, only a superstar would be worth those assets, especially the FRPs in 2028 or later.

If you look at last year's All-NBA teams, the only players who might leave their teams are Giannis and Lebron.

Bucks are going to win enough games in the East that Giannis won't ask to be traded before next summer, if they don't go anywhere in the playoffs. And even if he does ask out, Warriors are far from the favorites to be able to acquire him. Lebron was second team All-NBA like Curry. But it remains to be seen if he'll sustain that level more than another season or two and he wouldn't be a good fit here. Lakers seem ready to let him walk so no point in giving up many assets for him.

If you go for All-Star or All-Star level players, then we're talking about potential targets like Trey Murphy. How many players and FRPs would we have to give up for him? Probably would have to overpay. Odds of drafting a player like Murphy or Johnson are low but not that low. Odds of drafting a generational player like Curry again is much lower.


Is there someone below the top 20 players who would elevate the Warriors to the OKC echelon this season? Seems unlikely.

So probably not worth trading JK for anyone other than Giannis, especially if he keeps up his play and the team keeps winning.

[AirP.]

JK is an attractive trade asset because he's playing on a 1-year contract basically.

If they don't trade him, they will exercise the team option and then look to trade him by next season's trade deadline.

That's hoping that Giannis forces his way out, which is really unlikely and even if he asks out, it would likely be to the Knicks or one of the asset-rich teams will make the best offer.


Otherwise, what trade targets would be worth sending out several rotation players plus FRPs? If this team wins 48 or more games, that means they have good rotation players. So to send those out, only a superstar would be worth those assets, especially the FRPs in 2028 or later.

If you look at last year's All-NBA teams, the only players who might leave their teams are Giannis and Lebron.

Bucks are going to win enough games in the East that Giannis won't ask to be traded before next summer, if they don't go anywhere in the playoffs. And even if he does ask out, Warriors are far from the favorites to be able to acquire him. Lebron was second team All-NBA like Curry. But it remains to be seen if he'll sustain that level more than another season or two and he wouldn't be a good fit here. Lakers seem ready to let him walk so no point in giving up many assets for him.

If you go for All-Star or All-Star level players, then we're talking about potential targets like Trey Murphy. How many players and FRPs would we have to give up for him? Probably would have to overpay. Odds of drafting a player like Murphy or Johnson are low but not that low. Odds of drafting a generational player like Curry again is much lower.


Is there someone below the top 20 players who would elevate the Warriors to the OKC echelon this season? Seems unlikely.

So probably not worth trading JK for anyone other than Giannis, especially if he keeps up his play and the team keeps winning.

If Kuminga is going to play the right way, why would GS trade him? The owner loves him, Kerr can easily play him when he's trying to play the right way and better yet Kerr can expect the offense will run correctly with him on the court so why wouldn't both sides just agree to a long-term contract, have the team decline the TO and sign him for 4 or 5 years? It's a win for Kuminga and a win for GS.

If Kuminga wasn't buying and playing like it was last year I get it (I wouldn't have minded if he took the QO and left with his play last season), but he is working to alter his game, his is acknowledging on the court when he instinctively takes a bad shot (it's tough to change your instincts but he's working on them), these are things a coach can live with knowing the player understands they did bad and are try to correct it.

[vvoland]

If JK continues to play like this do we really need to make a move? The only thing we really need is Al insurance and do we really want to overpay for Al insurance?

IF jk continues to play like this, I like AirP's idea of MM+picks for kessler. I like the idea of Podz + TJD + picks even more but the ainges aren't stupid.

You would really trade MM or Podz + 2 1sts for a player that might play 20 mpg? IDK seems steep. It's way too early to be discussing trades anyway without finding out what this team really needs with more games and data points.

I think MM and Podz are behind Melton and Buddy (in my book, not Steve's, I understand). Trading just one of them for a 5 IF he can actually shoot 3 and is a monster on the glass and D makes sense to me. I made sure to say I'd trade our two worst picks (next year's and the other side of the one we sent to Was) so we keep our premium picks, still only have 1 future pick due once the '26 draft is passes, and, in my ideal scenario, MM is still here on a great deal.

Podz + TJD + '26 FRP + '30 FRP (2-20) for kessler. I'm pretty sure Uta says no but would you?

I get the backup pg concerns but I'm more worried about our C rotation and ability to keep Al under 25 mpg.

[vvoland]

JK is an attractive trade asset because he's playing on a 1-year contract basically.

If they don't trade him, they will exercise the team option and then look to trade him by next season's trade deadline.

That's hoping that Giannis forces his way out, which is really unlikely and even if he asks out, it would likely be to the Knicks or one of the asset-rich teams will make the best offer.


Otherwise, what trade targets would be worth sending out several rotation players plus FRPs? If this team wins 48 or more games, that means they have good rotation players. So to send those out, only a superstar would be worth those assets, especially the FRPs in 2028 or later.

If you look at last year's All-NBA teams, the only players who might leave their teams are Giannis and Lebron.

Bucks are going to win enough games in the East that Giannis won't ask to be traded before next summer, if they don't go anywhere in the playoffs. And even if he does ask out, Warriors are far from the favorites to be able to acquire him. Lebron was second team All-NBA like Curry. But it remains to be seen if he'll sustain that level more than another season or two and he wouldn't be a good fit here. Lakers seem ready to let him walk so no point in giving up many assets for him.

If you go for All-Star or All-Star level players, then we're talking about potential targets like Trey Murphy. How many players and FRPs would we have to give up for him? Probably would have to overpay. Odds of drafting a player like Murphy or Johnson are low but not that low. Odds of drafting a generational player like Curry again is much lower.


Is there someone below the top 20 players who would elevate the Warriors to the OKC echelon this season? Seems unlikely.

So probably not worth trading JK for anyone other than Giannis, especially if he keeps up his play and the team keeps winning.

I've said this before and I'll say it again I don't think anyone can beat our trade offer if we put everything else on the table unless teams are willing to give up Amen, Harper, Flagg, etc. Realistically, how does a team like SAS or HOU get to 50M+ for Giannis in attractive contracts AND have picks better than GSW in 2031 and beyond.

For salary, we have JK, Moody, Buddy, Podz, Gui, TJD. That's about 50M in either expirings or young players on great deals (MM and Podz). How does Hou or SAS get to 50M with similarly attractive contracts? If a team wants to win after trading us a star, we can always ship out Jimmy or JK + Dray to get to 50M.

For picks, are there really many picks better than our picks beyond 2029? I don't think so. Maybe Uta/Was/Phx's this year (which is with Mem?) because that draft looks loaded but i don't think those picks are getting moved and as far as future picks go, we may be some of the best ones out there.

So match the 50M+ of expiring/young salary with the best (or top 5) pick package in the league and, all of a sudden, we may have the most attractive trade package in the league. Sure, if Dallas wants to trade Flagg or SAS is open to moving Harper, they can build a better package. Those players are not going anywhere, not even for Giannis, so, realistically, who can construct a better package than this:

JK, Moody, Podz, Buddy, TJD, Gui = $51.5M + FRP in '28, swap in '29, FRP in '30 (1-20, as the other end is owned by was), swap in '31.

That's two PREMIUM FRPs (like the one Den just moved to get off MPJ) and two very good swaps. Sure, some team can beat that pick haul (not by much) but can they do it while getting to 50M in salary? I just looked at Hou and SAS and both would find it hard to get to 50M without some problematic contracts.

[Onus]

IF jk continues to play like this, I like AirP's idea of MM+picks for kessler. I like the idea of Podz + TJD + picks even more but the ainges aren't stupid.

You would really trade MM or Podz + 2 1sts for a player that might play 20 mpg? IDK seems steep. It's way too early to be discussing trades anyway without finding out what this team really needs with more games and data points.

I think MM and Podz are behind Melton and Buddy (in my book, not Steve's, I understand). Trading just one of them for a 5 IF he can actually shoot 3 and is a monster on the glass and D makes sense to me. I made sure to say I'd trade our two worst picks (next year's and the other side of the one we sent to Was) so we keep our premium picks, still only have 1 future pick due once the '26 draft is passes, and, in my ideal scenario, MM is still here on a great deal.

Podz + TJD + '26 FRP + '30 FRP (2-20) for kessler. I'm pretty sure Uta says no but would you?

I get the backup pg concerns but I'm more worried about our C rotation and ability to keep Al under 25 mpg.

Ball handlers are hard to find, let alone ball handlers that can play in our system. There are a lot of teams that are forgoing pgs altogether and I don't think that's going to work out well for them so there's probably going to be a lot of competition for ball handlers at the dead line. We have 4 centers on the roster (Dray, Horford, Post, TJD). Bringing in Kessler to be our 3rd string center Post played 3 minutes last night, maybe he supplants Horford altogether but that's still only 20 mpg instead of our current back up pg who played 30+ and adding 2 1sts on top of that. That's a lot, right now I wouldn't do that would need to see how other matchups work before I would agree to that.

[EvanZ]

That’s dependent on them only valuing him as a salary filler. I’m still unsure why they offered a 1+1. The most likely scenario was always going to be picking that option up and then he becomes a fa

Since he's on his 2nd contract, he's no longer a RFA after this contract, this is a way for GS to have more control of keeping Kuminga vs him leaving for nothing. If he buys in (and he is) GS will want to keep Kuminga and can offer to decline the TO and hand him a big 4–5-year contract and expect he doesn't Boozer them. If he doesn't want to resign with GS, they opt in on the TO and either think they can sell him on staying in GS over the next season or trade him and his Bird rights to somewhere he wants to extend at.

This is also why I've gotten in an argument in one of these threads before the season started saying it's possible with how Kuminga's playing he's no longer going to be moved and the next guy of value and somewhat sizable salary to move would be Moody and having Richard on the minimum able to do some of what Moody does at a fraction of the price makes that easier to do. Of course, Moody is better than Richard, but sometimes you have to shuffle around talent to make your roster as good as it can be. Moving Podz means you're bringing back someone less than his 3.6 million contract and if you start stacking contracts you have an issue of getting to the 14-man active minimum while being hard capped.

If JK continues to play like this do we really need to make a move? The only thing we really need is Al insurance and do we really want to overpay for Al insurance?

I don't even see the point of talking about trades until January tbh. It's way too early now.

[Onus]

Since he's on his 2nd contract, he's no longer a RFA after this contract, this is a way for GS to have more control of keeping Kuminga vs him leaving for nothing. If he buys in (and he is) GS will want to keep Kuminga and can offer to decline the TO and hand him a big 4–5-year contract and expect he doesn't Boozer them. If he doesn't want to resign with GS, they opt in on the TO and either think they can sell him on staying in GS over the next season or trade him and his Bird rights to somewhere he wants to extend at.

This is also why I've gotten in an argument in one of these threads before the season started saying it's possible with how Kuminga's playing he's no longer going to be moved and the next guy of value and somewhat sizable salary to move would be Moody and having Richard on the minimum able to do some of what Moody does at a fraction of the price makes that easier to do. Of course, Moody is better than Richard, but sometimes you have to shuffle around talent to make your roster as good as it can be. Moving Podz means you're bringing back someone less than his 3.6 million contract and if you start stacking contracts you have an issue of getting to the 14-man active minimum while being hard capped.

If JK continues to play like this do we really need to make a move? The only thing we really need is Al insurance and do we really want to overpay for Al insurance?

I don't even see the point of talking about trades until January tbh. It's way too early now.

Talking about trades right now is way too pre-mature. I'm going to enjoy the journey

[vvoland]

You would really trade MM or Podz + 2 1sts for a player that might play 20 mpg? IDK seems steep. It's way too early to be discussing trades anyway without finding out what this team really needs with more games and data points.

I think MM and Podz are behind Melton and Buddy (in my book, not Steve's, I understand). Trading just one of them for a 5 IF he can actually shoot 3 and is a monster on the glass and D makes sense to me. I made sure to say I'd trade our two worst picks (next year's and the other side of the one we sent to Was) so we keep our premium picks, still only have 1 future pick due once the '26 draft is passes, and, in my ideal scenario, MM is still here on a great deal.

Podz + TJD + '26 FRP + '30 FRP (2-20) for kessler. I'm pretty sure Uta says no but would you?

I get the backup pg concerns but I'm more worried about our C rotation and ability to keep Al under 25 mpg.

Ball handlers are hard to find, let alone ball handlers that can play in our system. There are a lot of teams that are forgoing pgs altogether and I don't think that's going to work out well for them so there's probably going to be a lot of competition for ball handlers at the dead line. We have 4 centers on the roster (Dray, Horford, Post, TJD). Bringing in Kessler to be our 3rd string center Post played 3 minutes last night, maybe he supplants Horford altogether but that's still only 20 mpg instead of our current back up pg who played 30+ and adding 2 1sts on top of that. That's a lot, right now I wouldn't do that would need to see how other matchups work before I would agree to that.

I couldn't agree more. I think not valuing PGs is the dumbest idea the NBA since they stopped denying that 3pts was not more than 2. That said, podz is not a pg and while it's hard to find ball handlers that fit our system, we've managed to do it with decent success (podz, melton, jerome, poole, etc).

The Kessler minutes piece i kinda agree with BUT. I don't think Podz will play that much more than 15-20mpg once MM and Melton are back and maybe a lot less. Would love to give Al 10 mins a night between now and the playoffs and have Dray play virtually 0 center minutes outside of closing against the best teams. I don't count TJD for anything other than outgoing salary and Kessler would immediately give us one of the best C rotations in the league. Plus, he's young enough to be here post dray/steph AND good enough to extend dray's career by savings him from the contact he gets at the 5.

Unlike any JK trade, a move involving MM or Podz for Kessler can be done today, I believe. Even if it can only be consummated in Jan, why not talk about the possibilities now? This is, after all, the trade thread.

[Onus]

I think MM and Podz are behind Melton and Buddy (in my book, not Steve's, I understand). Trading just one of them for a 5 IF he can actually shoot 3 and is a monster on the glass and D makes sense to me. I made sure to say I'd trade our two worst picks (next year's and the other side of the one we sent to Was) so we keep our premium picks, still only have 1 future pick due once the '26 draft is passes, and, in my ideal scenario, MM is still here on a great deal.

Podz + TJD + '26 FRP + '30 FRP (2-20) for kessler. I'm pretty sure Uta says no but would you?

I get the backup pg concerns but I'm more worried about our C rotation and ability to keep Al under 25 mpg.

Ball handlers are hard to find, let alone ball handlers that can play in our system. There are a lot of teams that are forgoing pgs altogether and I don't think that's going to work out well for them so there's probably going to be a lot of competition for ball handlers at the dead line. We have 4 centers on the roster (Dray, Horford, Post, TJD). Bringing in Kessler to be our 3rd string center Post played 3 minutes last night, maybe he supplants Horford altogether but that's still only 20 mpg instead of our current back up pg who played 30+ and adding 2 1sts on top of that. That's a lot, right now I wouldn't do that would need to see how other matchups work before I would agree to that.

I couldn't agree more. I think not valuing PGs is the dumbest idea the NBA since they stopped denying that 3pts was not more than 2. That said, podz is not a pg and while it's hard to find ball handlers that fit our system, we've managed to do it with decent success (podz, melton, jerome, poole, etc).

The Kessler minutes piece i kinda agree with BUT. I don't think Podz will play that much more than 15-20mpg once MM and Melton are back and maybe a lot less. Would love to give Al 10 mins a night between now and the playoffs and have Dray play virtually 0 center minutes outside of closing against the best teams. I don't count TJD for anything other than outgoing salary and Kessler would immediately give us one of the best C rotations in the league. Plus, he's young enough to be here post dray/steph AND good enough to extend dray's career by savings him from the contact he gets at the 5.

Unlike any JK trade, a move involving MM or Podz for Kessler can be done today, I believe. Even if it can only be consummated in Jan, why not talk about the possibilities now? This is, after all, the trade thread.

Because any type of trade you try to complete now instead of the dead line you'll likely need to over pay to get them to agree to it, since usually you get the best deals at the deadline when everyone is willing to make a trade and you can get more leverage saying so and so team is willing to do this can you beat it. So offering a deal that someone would accept now would have to forgo that team being ok with missing out on that. Obviously there are some circumstances where you can get a deal down sooner but generally. Obviously Walker has been on the trade market a long time and the knicks were willing to give up 2 1sts but the jazz turned it down, so I'm not sure podz + 2 1sts gets it done right now in any case.

If you're trading Podz that means you want to play Spencer, since Melton isn't a pg. Playing spencer means even less spacing. I don't think it's worth it at this time.

[vvoland]

Ball handlers are hard to find, let alone ball handlers that can play in our system. There are a lot of teams that are forgoing pgs altogether and I don't think that's going to work out well for them so there's probably going to be a lot of competition for ball handlers at the dead line. We have 4 centers on the roster (Dray, Horford, Post, TJD). Bringing in Kessler to be our 3rd string center Post played 3 minutes last night, maybe he supplants Horford altogether but that's still only 20 mpg instead of our current back up pg who played 30+ and adding 2 1sts on top of that. That's a lot, right now I wouldn't do that would need to see how other matchups work before I would agree to that.

I couldn't agree more. I think not valuing PGs is the dumbest idea the NBA since they stopped denying that 3pts was not more than 2. That said, podz is not a pg and while it's hard to find ball handlers that fit our system, we've managed to do it with decent success (podz, melton, jerome, poole, etc).

The Kessler minutes piece i kinda agree with BUT. I don't think Podz will play that much more than 15-20mpg once MM and Melton are back and maybe a lot less. Would love to give Al 10 mins a night between now and the playoffs and have Dray play virtually 0 center minutes outside of closing against the best teams. I don't count TJD for anything other than outgoing salary and Kessler would immediately give us one of the best C rotations in the league. Plus, he's young enough to be here post dray/steph AND good enough to extend dray's career by savings him from the contact he gets at the 5.

Unlike any JK trade, a move involving MM or Podz for Kessler can be done today, I believe. Even if it can only be consummated in Jan, why not talk about the possibilities now? This is, after all, the trade thread.

Because any type of trade you try to complete now instead of the dead line you'll likely need to over pay to get them to agree to it, since usually you get the best deals at the deadline when everyone is willing to make a trade and you can get more leverage saying so and so team is willing to do this can you beat it. So offering a deal that someone would accept now would have to forgo that team being ok with missing out on that. Obviously there are some circumstances where you can get a deal down sooner but generally. Obviously Walker has been on the trade market a long time and the knicks were willing to give up 2 1sts but the jazz turned it down, so I'm not sure podz + 2 1sts gets it done right now in any case.

If you're trading Podz that means you want to play Spencer, since Melton isn't a pg. Playing spencer means even less spacing. I don't think it's worth it at this time.

I'm fine playing Melton in podz' role as a backup pg. Sure, DM isn't a pg but neither is podz. I wouldn't make the trade today because i would really need a month of a healthy melton AND JK playing like this to entertain it but, personally, I'm low on Podz and am the first to admit it.

I'm just saying unlike the JK contract or other issues, we actually can trade for Kessler now. Why would the jazz do it early instead of the day of the deadline? I could see a couple of reasons:

1. He's too good to bench and too good to lead the tank. Not saying they'll win 35 games but he and Lauri + will hardy may be just good enough to not land them in the bottom 4 which would be a DISASTER. Lauri and Podz? that's a 13 win team.

2. If they want podz as much as we want kessler. I don't know if that's true but considering the popularity of a certain pigmentation in Uta, I will certainly gauge their interest. No reason to think a team that does want podz wouldn't want to trade for him now so he has more time in their system until the extension talks start and he doesn't play himself out of their price range.

3. We may not want to trade ANYONE at the deadline if we're sitting top 2 in the west and the roster is well defined and playing well. I can't see a scenario where Uta is in a position where Kessler is too good to trade.

4. Two premium FRPs is so much better than anything the knicks can even try to acquire. Plus, Kessler is extension eligible and an RFA next season. That's not the same value as the knicks where trading for (2 seasons of a rookie contract and a chance to extend him early). Utah gave up a bunch of that value by not trading him last year.

5. Podz is better than anything the knicks were sending out and very much fits the "good young player" and "great contract" mold. Essentially, he's a guard/offensively version of Kessler with an extra year at less than $4M.

Does Uta want that? Again, I don't know but these are all realistic scenarios. In fact, if I'm Uta and I can get GSW unprotected 2030 (1-20) and Podz for kessler, I might have to do that. That 2030 pick would probably be good enough to get 4 mid to late FRPs like PHX got last year (or did they get 3?), not that Uta would prefer that. Not sure I would cave and throw in next year's FRP if I'm GSW but I expect it to be 20-30 so how valuable is it really?