Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?)

[Onus]

Damn Mavs aren't looking to trade PJ Washington in their list of veterans that they are looking to trade. Looks like Herb really may be the only wing available.

[DB23]

Damn Mavs aren't looking to trade PJ Washington in their list of veterans that they are looking to trade. Looks like Herb really may be the only wing available.

Kuminga plus picks in a 3 way trade for Coby white and herb works.

I’d do that deal.

Gafford also available on the Mavs if we want to add size.

[wco81]

No on Coby White. Thought he could be useful but after watching him this last game, he's not it.

May be a coincidence but the Bulls started losing around the time he came back.

[DB23]

No on Coby White. Thought he could be useful but after watching him this last game, he's not it.

May be a coincidence but the Bulls started losing around the time he came back.

He was great last year, could see him in the Poole role.

You’d have to believe it’s just slow returning from injury which seems reasonable.

[wco81]

No on Coby White. Thought he could be useful but after watching him this last game, he's not it.

May be a coincidence but the Bulls started losing around the time he came back.

He was great last year, could see him in the Poole role.

You’d have to believe it’s just slow returning from injury which seems reasonable.

Yes his main value is creating shots for himself and when he's making them, great. But these are difficult shots and you have to be effective driving and finishing which is what Poole did that one year.

JK hasn't been doing it since his injury last year and plus, teams are getting away with fouling the **** out of him, so by the eye test, he's not getting on the line.

If he got Austin Reeves on the Lakers whistle, he'd be going to the line at least 10 times a game.

[ILOVEIT]

Not sure I get the idea of trading 3 first rounders for good players. Trading first shouldn't be mentioned unless we are talking all-stars.

[ILOVEIT]

Seems we have a few routes with moody, hield and kuminga

Either swing for the fences:
1. Zion
2. Lavine
3.lamelo

Or stable upgrades
1. Brooks
2. Herb

I don’t think Murphy is realistic or would I want to drain all the draft capital for him. The above are probably achievable with minimal picks added.

Anyone else to put on the list?

I don't think the suns are trading brooks. They brought him in specifically to be a culture setter.

Just playin but did you mean "swing and miss or..."? Lavine? Lamelo? These guys are a nightmare fit on a team trying to play defense in a Curry style offense.

AD, Lauri, Zion, Giannis..yep..those are swing for the fences dudes.

[DB23]

Seems we have a few routes with moody, hield and kuminga

Either swing for the fences:
1. Zion
2. Lavine
3.lamelo

Or stable upgrades
1. Brooks
2. Herb

I don’t think Murphy is realistic or would I want to drain all the draft capital for him. The above are probably achievable with minimal picks added.

Anyone else to put on the list?

I don't think the suns are trading brooks. They brought him in specifically to be a culture setter.

Just playin but did you mean "swing and miss or..."? Lavine? Lamelo? These guys are a nightmare fit on a team trying to play defense in a Curry style offense.

AD, Lauri, Zion, Giannis..yep..those are swing for the fences dudes.

Just salary slots - we can get to 40 easy enough.

I don’t think AD, giannis are remotely realistic but fingers crossed hah

Also the gambles I’m interested in are for like 2-3 first round picks not 6/7

[AirP.]

From the Marc Stein email sent out today...

Yet it's likewise believed that the price point to convince New Orleans to part with either Murphy or Jones — swingmen who both possess favorable contracts on top of their highly desired skill sets — is extremely high and intended to discourage inquiries. Jones, for the record, is not even trade-eligible until Jan. 14 after signing a three-year, $67.5 million contract extension in July.

There has been no evidence to date to suggest that the Bulls plan to act upon persistent speculation that they harbor trade interest in Mavericks big man (and Chicago native) Anthony Davis.

Yet I was advised this week that Chicago should continue to be classified as a team to watch when it comes to Golden State's Jonathan Kuminga.

The Warriors are increasingly expected to trade Kuminga between Jan. 15 — who is not trade-eligible this season until that date — and the Feb. 5 trade deadline. And Chicago has certainly registered trade interest in Kuminga in the past, bringing up the 23-year-old in negotiations with Golden State on trades that never came to fruition in which the Warriors were engaged in talks of varying degrees of seriousness featuring Alex Caruso, Zach LaVine and Nikola Vučević.

The Bulls, meanwhile, continue to field trade interest in guard Coby White.

[AirP.]

No on Coby White. Thought he could be useful but after watching him this last game, he's not it.

May be a coincidence but the Bulls started losing around the time he came back.

He was great last year, could see him in the Poole role.

You’d have to believe it’s just slow returning from injury which seems reasonable.

Yes his main value is creating shots for himself and when he's making them, great. But these are difficult shots and you have to be effective driving and finishing which is what Poole did that one year.

JK hasn't been doing it since his injury last year and plus, teams are getting away with fouling the **** out of him, so by the eye test, he's not getting on the line.

If he got Austin Reeves on the Lakers whistle, he'd be going to the line at least 10 times a game.

He has a small sample size of only 7 games so far this year but...

Coby White's rate of scoring is up to 27 points PER36, up from his 22 points per36 last year, his 3pt shooting is down in his limited number of games (.370->.302) this year while his rate of assists is up too at 6.7 from last year's 4.8 assists per36.

BTW, White's rate of FTs has also went up from 4.5 FTs per36 to 9.8 FTs per36 this year. Maybe he's figuring out how to get that whistle more at age 25.

[winforlose]

Any thoughts on this idea

Wolves out: Randle
Wolves in: Podz, White, Jalen Smith, Warriors 2026 first round pick

Warriors out: Podz, Moody, Kuminga, 2026 first
Warriors in: Randle and Dalen Tarry

Bulls out: White, Tarry, Smith
Bulls in: Kuminga and Moody

Bulls get Kuminga who they want, Wolves upgrade the backcourt and can start Naz. White replaces Randle’s scoring and Podz is a young combo guard to develop. Warriors get their last chance to contend with Curry, Randle and Butler.

[DonaldSanders]

Any thoughts on this idea

Wolves out: Randle
Wolves in: Podz, White, Jalen Smith, Warriors 2026 first round pick

Warriors out: Podz, Moody, Kuminga, 2026 first
Warriors in: Randle and Dalen Tarry

Bulls out: White, Tarry, Smith
Bulls in: Kuminga and Moody

Bulls get Kuminga who they want, Wolves upgrade the backcourt and can start Naz. White replaces Randle’s scoring and Podz is a young combo guard to develop. Warriors get their last chance to contend with Curry, Randle and Butler.

An interesting idea and initially tempting as we do need a consolidation trade. However, I think the Warriors pass though because any big trade needs to provide shooting. The Warriors have a good defense (top 3) but the role players have really good shot quality with bad results. I think with this lineup Draymond would have to come off the bench, as Dray/Randle/Jimmy/Melton/Steph is just not enough shooting. The Warriors need a better fit.

I think your valuations are reasonable though.

[NW]

Any thoughts on this idea

Wolves out: Randle
Wolves in: Podz, White, Jalen Smith, Warriors 2026 first round pick

Warriors out: Podz, Moody, Kuminga, 2026 first
Warriors in: Randle and Dalen Tarry

Bulls out: White, Tarry, Smith
Bulls in: Kuminga and Moody

Bulls get Kuminga who they want, Wolves upgrade the backcourt and can start Naz. White replaces Randle’s scoring and Podz is a young combo guard to develop. Warriors get their last chance to contend with Curry, Randle and Butler.

An interesting idea and initially tempting as we do need a consolidation trade. However, I think the Warriors pass though because any big trade needs to provide shooting. The Warriors have a good defense (top 3) but the role players have really good shot quality with bad results. I think with this lineup Draymond would have to come off the bench, as Dray/Randle/Jimmy/Melton/Steph is just not enough shooting. The Warriors need a better fit.

I think your valuations are reasonable though.

Agreed. Need a big wing or center for GS.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Any thoughts on this idea

Wolves out: Randle
Wolves in: Podz, White, Jalen Smith, Warriors 2026 first round pick

Warriors out: Podz, Moody, Kuminga, 2026 first
Warriors in: Randle and Dalen Tarry

Bulls out: White, Tarry, Smith
Bulls in: Kuminga and Moody

Bulls get Kuminga who they want, Wolves upgrade the backcourt and can start Naz. White replaces Randle’s scoring and Podz is a young combo guard to develop. Warriors get their last chance to contend with Curry, Randle and Butler.

An interesting idea and initially tempting as we do need a consolidation trade. However, I think the Warriors pass though because any big trade needs to provide shooting. The Warriors have a good defense (top 3) but the role players have really good shot quality with bad results. I think with this lineup Draymond would have to come off the bench, as Dray/Randle/Jimmy/Melton/Steph is just not enough shooting. The Warriors need a better fit.

I think your valuations are reasonable though.

Agreed. Need a big wing or center for GS.

Miami is one of the frontrunners for Giannis. Wiggins might be involved in the trade to make the salaries work, but the bucks have no need and will auction him off. Maybe the warriors get involved and see if a younger kuminga is more appealing for their rebuild.

[NW]

An interesting idea and initially tempting as we do need a consolidation trade. However, I think the Warriors pass though because any big trade needs to provide shooting. The Warriors have a good defense (top 3) but the role players have really good shot quality with bad results. I think with this lineup Draymond would have to come off the bench, as Dray/Randle/Jimmy/Melton/Steph is just not enough shooting. The Warriors need a better fit.

I think your valuations are reasonable though.

Agreed. Need a big wing or center for GS.

Miami is one of the frontrunners for Giannis. Wiggins might be involved in the trade to make the salaries work, but the bucks have no need and will auction him off. Maybe the warriors get involved and see if a younger kuminga is more appealing for their rebuild.

Probably depends on the Rozier situation and if that contract can be used

[Hoopstar23]

starting to warm up to a MPJ trade

[DAWill1128]

starting to warm up to a MPJ trade

Yeah he is shooting the ball really well. Steph+Jimmy+MPJ should be enough firepower to compete. Plus it forces Kerr to have a 6-10 guy on the floor.

[xdrta+]

starting to warm up to a MPJ trade

Yeah he is shooting the ball really well. Steph+Jimmy+MPJ should be enough firepower to compete. Plus it forces Kerr to have a 6-10 guy on the floor.

Depends if they really want Kuminga, I suppose. They never showed much interest in the summer. JK, Moody, and Hield is about the only way to match salary (without including Draymond, that is.)

[DAWill1128]

starting to warm up to a MPJ trade

Yeah he is shooting the ball really well. Steph+Jimmy+MPJ should be enough firepower to compete. Plus it forces Kerr to have a 6-10 guy on the floor.

Depends if they really want Kuminga, I suppose. They never showed much interest in the summer. JK, Moody, and Hield is about the only way to match salary (without including Draymond, that is.)

Yeah. We would have to throw in a 1st. Even though Brooklyn is rebuilding MPJ seems like a guy you would want, young, 6-10, and shoots the hell out of the ball.

[Anderson Hunt]

Kuminga and Hield for DeRozan and Devin Carter