OT - Trump

[yesh]

Any buyers remorse yet?

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

I cant escape the fallout and I am in NZ. May Allah be with you all.

[cdubbz]

F trump and pence.

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

Yet some poeple still think this is about party politics and fail to see the big picture. Yes people this is real.

[turk3d]

Maybe this is what America deserves (with their two party system and electoral college). Hillary (although I voted for her) was no prize. I think we were going to be screwed no matter who got elected, just in different ways.

[Coxy]

This could be the straw that breaks the camels back for 'Murica. It's looking so bad now, that it may bring on a whole new way you vote people into your most important positions in the future.

The world needs to come up with a way where the people are not choosing between 2 evils, so to speak. This Swede bilionare is offering 5 Mill cash money for anyone that comes up with a new brillianbt way that governemnt can be formed and and run. http://bigthink.com/design-for-good/a-swedish-billionaire-will-award-5-million-for-reimagining-global-governance

I vote Quimby. Obviously.

[wco81]

Actually there is some speculation that some NBA players may have problems re-entering the country if they should leave to go back home during the offseason.

[Mylie10]

This could be the straw that breaks the camels back for 'Murica. It's looking so bad now, that it may bring on a whole new way you vote people into your most important positions in the future.

The world needs to come up with a way where the people are not choosing between 2 evils, so to speak. This Swede bilionare is offering 5 Mill cash money for anyone that comes up with a new brillianbt way that governemnt can be formed and and run. http://bigthink.com/design-for-good/a-swedish-billionaire-will-award-5-million-for-reimagining-global-governance

I vote Quimby. Obviously.

Everythings gonna be ok. No need to take away our political system based on your being in a different country.

Why don't you let us Muricans figure it out.

And just because the media blows every thing out of proportion, doesn't mean our world is ending. Some thing need changing, some things need refining, some things need to be left alone. It'll all be worked out.

The reason we ended up with these two crapfest choices was based on two things. (1.) the status quo on both sides of the political aisle. It doesn't make for things improving. (2.) People who are ok with the status quo and want it to continue, or even further entrench itself.

There ya go.....now things will be a changing for better or for worse. It has awoken lots of people who normally are disengaged in the process. Now people may come to the voting booths better informed to make the right choices. Now people can really get out and vote next time for how things should be, and you won't have these kind of crappy candidates.

A ton of fraud has been exposed in the overall system. the deck shouldn't be able to be stacked so heavily in one direction any more. It would be nice if the main stream media would join in with not pushing their personal agendas, and get back to reporting all of the news.

It would also be nice if the media didn't trash people who disagree with them to the point where good people with good intentions wouldn't be afraid to run for office because their lives are torn apart.

But we got it, so get back to trying to control that large rat population you have over there. Those suckers are huge, and they carry their young around in pouches. Seriously

[Mylie10]

Actually there is some speculation that some NBA players may have problems re-entering the country if they should leave to go back home during the offseason.

Totally untrue.

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

Wow that's revealing. Or revolting.

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

The fraud is voter suppression under the disguise of eliminating fraud that hasn't occurred. What a bunch of hypocritical nonsense.

[Quazza]

This could be the straw that breaks the camels back for 'Murica. It's looking so bad now, that it may bring on a whole new way you vote people into your most important positions in the future.

The world needs to come up with a way where the people are not choosing between 2 evils, so to speak. This Swede bilionare is offering 5 Mill cash money for anyone that comes up with a new brillianbt way that governemnt can be formed and and run. http://bigthink.com/design-for-good/a-swedish-billionaire-will-award-5-million-for-reimagining-global-governance

I vote Quimby. Obviously.

Everythings gonna be ok. No need to take away our political system based on your being in a different country.

Why don't you let us Muricans figure it out.

And just because the media blows every thing out of proportion, doesn't mean our world is ending. Some thing need changing, some things need refining, some things need to be left alone. It'll all be worked out.

The reason we ended up with these two crapfest choices was based on two things. (1.) the status quo on both sides of the political aisle. It doesn't make for things improving. (2.) People who are ok with the status quo and want it to continue, or even further entrench itself.

There ya go.....now things will be a changing for better or for worse. It has awoken lots of people who normally are disengaged in the process. Now people may come to the voting booths better informed to make the right choices. Now people can really get out and vote next time for how things should be, and you won't have these kind of crappy candidates.

A ton of fraud has been exposed in the overall system. the deck shouldn't be able to be stacked so heavily in one direction any more. It would be nice if the main stream media would join in with not pushing their personal agendas, and get back to reporting all of the news.

It would also be nice if the media didn't trash people who disagree with them to the point where good people with good intentions wouldn't be afraid to run for office because their lives are torn apart.

But we got it, so get back to trying to control that large rat population you have over there. Those suckers are huge, and they carry their young around in pouches. Seriously

**** you

[Coxy]

This could be the straw that breaks the camels back for 'Murica. It's looking so bad now, that it may bring on a whole new way you vote people into your most important positions in the future.

The world needs to come up with a way where the people are not choosing between 2 evils, so to speak. This Swede bilionare is offering 5 Mill cash money for anyone that comes up with a new brillianbt way that governemnt can be formed and and run. http://bigthink.com/design-for-good/a-swedish-billionaire-will-award-5-million-for-reimagining-global-governance

I vote Quimby. Obviously.

Everythings gonna be ok. No need to take away our political system based on your being in a different country.

Why don't you let us Muricans figure it out.

And just because the media blows every thing out of proportion, doesn't mean our world is ending. Some thing need changing, some things need refining, some things need to be left alone. It'll all be worked out.

The reason we ended up with these two crapfest choices was based on two things. (1.) the status quo on both sides of the political aisle. It doesn't make for things improving. (2.) People who are ok with the status quo and want it to continue, or even further entrench itself.

There ya go.....now things will be a changing for better or for worse. It has awoken lots of people who normally are disengaged in the process. Now people may come to the voting booths better informed to make the right choices. Now people can really get out and vote next time for how things should be, and you won't have these kind of crappy candidates.

A ton of fraud has been exposed in the overall system. the deck shouldn't be able to be stacked so heavily in one direction any more. It would be nice if the main stream media would join in with not pushing their personal agendas, and get back to reporting all of the news.

It would also be nice if the media didn't trash people who disagree with them to the point where good people with good intentions wouldn't be afraid to run for office because their lives are torn apart.

But we got it, so get back to trying to control that large rat population you have over there. Those suckers are huge, and they carry their young around in pouches. Seriously

Communism Mylie, it's the way of the future.

[TKF]

It's a big wakeup call to the Democratic party. They have to field a candidate who appeals to their base or this will happen again.

It's also a giant warning about the state of American education and culture. Even though I live in an area that is anti-trump overall, there are still Trump voters here and I've overheard conversations from some of them. They believe everything the right-wing media tells them - they do not see any inconsistencies or hypocrisy in their positions, they have no memory of the past (blaming Dems for war in Iraq, etc).

If I thought they would learn from the next 4 years I would be somewhat heartened, but I honestly have zero hope of that. My only hope is to outlive them.

Nobody will say honestly that they voted for him, but where did the votes come? His win wasn't any good for Australia.

i'll tell you where the votes came from. Your friends and people you know who were shamed by loud and obnoxious liberals if they said they liked trump. So they kept quiet and spoke with their votes. The liberals and democrats are almost like a terrorist group.. don't agree with them, they curse, yell and threaten to boycott, protest and destroy. they call you racist and every "phobe" in the book.. the problem isn't trump, he is just a rich guy who loves this country and is not a politician so he is rough around the edges.. the problem are people who have blindly followed democrats and their mission to change this country and the constitution, and when americans finally said No, they are in complete meltdown. The democrat party is falling apart and i love it. honestly republicans wont have to do a thing, the democrats will self destruct, you see it happening now...

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

Terrorist group. wow its worse than i thought.

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

Sounds like something right out of some fascist propaganda site.

[turk3d]

It's a big wakeup call to the Democratic party. They have to field a candidate who appeals to their base or this will happen again.

It's also a giant warning about the state of American education and culture. Even though I live in an area that is anti-trump overall, there are still Trump voters here and I've overheard conversations from some of them. They believe everything the right-wing media tells them - they do not see any inconsistencies or hypocrisy in their positions, they have no memory of the past (blaming Dems for war in Iraq, etc).

If I thought they would learn from the next 4 years I would be somewhat heartened, but I honestly have zero hope of that. My only hope is to outlive them.

Nobody will say honestly that they voted for him, but where did the votes come? His win wasn't any good for Australia.

i'll tell you where the votes came from. Your friends and people you know who were shamed by loud and obnoxious liberals if they said they liked trump. So they kept quiet and spoke with their votes. The liberals and democrats are almost like a terrorist group.. don't agree with them, they curse, yell and threaten to boycott, protest and destroy. they call you racist and every "phobe" in the book.. the problem isn't trump, he is just a rich guy who loves this country and is not a politician so he is rough around the edges.. the problem are people who have blindly followed democrats and their mission to change this country and the constitution, and when americans finally said No, they are in complete meltdown. The democrat party is falling apart and i love it. honestly republicans wont have to do a thing, the democrats will self destruct, you see it happening now...

Republicans, Democrats two dynamically opposed ideologies. Both imo have their pluses and minuses. It's not just the Democrats who are against Trump. It's many of the "so-called" conservatives who are as well. The one good thing about Trump (that you pointed out) is that he's not a politician (probably the best thing about him) and he's turned our political system (which really the problem and why we're in the position we're in today) upside down.

It may be that the most significant result of this election is how it seems how this country is divided right down the middle with Trump winning the electoral votes and Hillary the popular (each side seemingly being on the complete opposite pole). We and the rest of the world (as the rest of the world is so dependent on the state of affairs in the US) are basically in a position where we almost have to root for Trump''s success if we want things to stabilize.

Right now, the world is a pretty chaotic mess and like him or not, it's going to be up to Trump to lead this nation out of it's current duress.

[FNQ]

It's a big wakeup call to the Democratic party. They have to field a candidate who appeals to their base or this will happen again.

It's also a giant warning about the state of American education and culture. Even though I live in an area that is anti-trump overall, there are still Trump voters here and I've overheard conversations from some of them. They believe everything the right-wing media tells them - they do not see any inconsistencies or hypocrisy in their positions, they have no memory of the past (blaming Dems for war in Iraq, etc).

If I thought they would learn from the next 4 years I would be somewhat heartened, but I honestly have zero hope of that. My only hope is to outlive them.

Nobody will say honestly that they voted for him, but where did the votes come? His win wasn't any good for Australia.

i'll tell you where the votes came from. Your friends and people you know who were shamed by loud and obnoxious liberals if they said they liked trump. So they kept quiet and spoke with their votes. The liberals and democrats are almost like a terrorist group.. don't agree with them, they curse, yell and threaten to boycott, protest and destroy. they call you racist and every "phobe" in the book.. the problem isn't trump, he is just a rich guy who loves this country and is not a politician so he is rough around the edges.. the problem are people who have blindly followed democrats and their mission to change this country and the constitution, and when americans finally said No, they are in complete meltdown. The democrat party is falling apart and i love it. honestly republicans wont have to do a thing, the democrats will self destruct, you see it happening now...

Gross mischaracterization and oversimplification right here.

Trump won because he duped people with slogans that he bailed on the second he won. Lock her up? Drain the swamp? Lol

Instead he takes credit for things that were already happening, has given control of healthcare back to the big pharmacy companies (you know, the ones who jacked up the cost of epinephrine after bilking taxpayers into developing it under the guise of doing it for their benefit), and separating families with a blanket ban on people from certain countries.

And it hasn't even been 10 days yet. Support of what he's doing shows a distinct lack of humanity, and ironically is supported heartily by the dominant religion who's golden rule is to love thy neighbor.

A much, much more accurate reason that Trump won was the reckless arrogance shown by the DNC. They pigeon-holed the media to show the two people they wanted the race to be: Trump and Hillary. They preferred to show an empty podium of Trump over letting Bernie's message get out to the non-internet based public. They strategized against him. They used insider information to help Hillary and outwardly showed disdain to any Bernie supporter who wanted them to actually represent the people. So a lot of votes went to Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, and some even went to Trump.

Anyways, reducing it to the protestors and overly PC people is a conspiracy narrative being pumped out by the same people who protested Obama's wins and antagonized the former President in the exact same way. Both parties have nutjobs - the idea that one doesn't is so laughably blind to reality, as well as extremely arrogant

[StepBackCrack]

Trump is a **** disgrace. I can't believe what he is doing atm.

[michaelm]

Your country, your choice.

But if you wanted a businessman to run the country it might have been an idea to pick one actually successful in business rather than as a reality TV star imo.