2020 Draft Thread

[TB]

There isn't any real lights out shooters in the top of the lotto. In fact, Deni may actually project to be one of the better ones. And Okoro mechanics are solid, I think he develops into a decent shooter.

[MastermindLV]

So I’m only looking at stats but can someone tell me why Lamelo is rated so high?

It has his stats at like 17pts on 37% FG and 25% 3PT

[DAWill1128]

In the circumstance the Knicks bypass us in the draft and decide to select Wiseman do we pursue a deal with them? The Knicks may decide they like Wiseman more than Mitchell Robinson and try to ship Robinson for something.

Would you trade our lottery pick for Robinson or trade Paschall for Robinson? If we traded Paschall then does Obi Toppin fit into our mix? Or do we take Edwards to play 6th man and accomplish a shot blocker and a 6th man all while still having the TPE, Minny pick, and MLE to fill in depth?

[Little Digger]

So I’m only looking at stats but can someone tell me why Lamelo is rated so high?

It has his stats at like 17pts on 37% FG and 25% 3PT

7 rebounds 8 assists per game I believe..against grown men..to me that’s impressive..his shot is ugly but that’s not a huge deal till he doesn’t improve ..he has great court vision and the great length to be effective switching if he takes to Defense like his brother

Lots of questions about Ball..that’s 4 sure.

But I absolutely loathe Edwards competitiveness..He’s a lazier Isiah Rider..

[Warriorfan]

Warriors need to keep multiplying assets. Hopefully they get #1 trade down once or twice for future picks.

Then go for highest ceiling.

[ChuckDurn]

In the circumstance the Knicks bypass us in the draft and decide to select Wiseman do we pursue a deal with them? The Knicks may decide they like Wiseman more than Mitchell Robinson and try to ship Robinson for something.

Would you trade our lottery pick for Robinson or trade Paschall for Robinson? If we traded Paschall then does Obi Toppin fit into our mix? Or do we take Edwards to play 6th man and accomplish a shot blocker and a 6th man all while still having the TPE, Minny pick, and MLE to fill in depth?

I would absolutely trade Paschall for Robinson. I’m not high on Paschall’s upside or overall skill set. I don’t see Paschall advancing beyond beyond a 6th or 7th man, whereas I can see Robinson becoming a top-15 center in the league.

If I’m trading our (almost certainly top-5) draft pick, I’m assuming that I can get more for it than Robinson, so if that’s all the offer would be (with no other sweetener), I probably don’t do that deal.

[InWestWeTrust]

I’m curious about Wiseman still. I see the Hassan comps, BAM comps, Drummond comps, etc. I think they are all off.


Based off the little game tape available, he’s closer to Bosh IMO. Not much footage on his post game or jumper but he has the tools. He runs the floor well, perfect for our system. He can score, something our bigs have lacked. The defense will come along, he doesn’t seem completely lost. I think he can potentially guard the perimeter with his mobility.


If we get the #1, there’s no question we take him. No trading down, you just DONT do that with the #1 pick. Especially in this weak draft.

My biggest thing is his will to play and love of the game. If he wants to winner and works hard, easy choice if we have the #1. I trust our FO in that regard

[Phase 3]

My top 5(in no particular order):

Wiseman
Avdija
RJ Hampton
Edwards
Killian Hayes

The rest of the guys that I’ve looked at have low ceilings imo...or, in the case of LaMelo Ball, has baggage that I’m not interested in dealing with.

If the Warriors have a chance to draft Wiseman, they need to do it. Even if that means trading up a few slots to get it done. He fits the plan NOW and in the FUTURE.

Those other guys I mentioned would probably take a couple years to develop...but given the Warriors culture and coaching, I think those guys have the talent to eventually take the torch from Steph and Klay in 2-3 years.

[Little Digger]

I want the best player..I don’t give a rats a** about who the father is or who goofball draft sites like.

This is all about playing the game...and if you have any clue at all you know the player with the most “baggage” on the court is Anthony Edwards..Dude is hyped so hard but plays an awful brand of basketball..He’s selfish and lazy..his team’s conference record is like 2-173 this season..he has zero positive impact and this is while playing against future insurance salesmen.

[Phase 3]

I want the best player..I don’t give a rats a** about who the father is or who goofball draft sites like.

This is all about playing the game...and if you have any clue at all you know the player with the most “baggage” on the court is Anthony Edwards..Dude is hyped so hard but plays an awful brand of basketball..He’s selfish and lazy..his team’s conference record is like 2-173 this season..he has zero positive impact and this is while playing against future insurance salesmen.

Looks like I found the LaMelo Ball fan.

And yeah Edwards has some bad habits. But he’s got some talent and I bet a first class organization like the Warriors could develop him into a really nice player. His success will depend heavily on who drafts him imo.

He’s probably ranked number 5 on my list though...I prefer the other 4 players to him.

[Warriors Analyst]

I'm surprised there isn't more talk about Killian Hayes in this thread. I've only been able to watch highlights and read analysis by a few draft people + Ethan Sherwood Strauss, but I think he's a very intriguing prospect. I like his size at the 1, he's a creative passer, his percentages on 2P and 3P shots are very encouraging, and his highlight reel is littered with smart plays and reads. Of course, highlight reels aren't representative of a player as a whole, but the intelligence and creative moxie in the highlights made me believe that his skillset would translate well at the NBA level, whereas some highlight reels of players dribbling themselves into contested 2's should be huge red flags.

[Little Digger]

I want the best player..I don’t give a rats a** about who the father is or who goofball draft sites like.

This is all about playing the game...and if you have any clue at all you know the player with the most “baggage” on the court is Anthony Edwards..Dude is hyped so hard but plays an awful brand of basketball..He’s selfish and lazy..his team’s conference record is like 2-173 this season..he has zero positive impact and this is while playing against future insurance salesmen.

Looks like I found the LaMelo Ball fan.

And yeah Edwards has some bad habits..

has “some bad habits”? ..that’s like saying Charlie Manson had some bad habits

Yesterday =Anthony Edwards with 6pts 4rebs and 4 turnovers ..Georgia now 2-188 in conference play

Awful lazy D and never moves an inch when he doesn't have the rock..Ya he's special..

At one point early in the 1st half he made a 3 after he had missed 18 3 pointers in a row over the last few games..the announcer praised him for 5 minutes!! (Not exaggerating)

The hype for this scrub is unfrickenbelievable

Ant Man didn't even take one 2 point shot the entire game..

Not one drive

Not one putback attempt

Not one post up vs unathletic midgets

I never even saw him run the floor


A top 5 overall pick?

Good luck

[freypies]

I'm surprised there isn't more talk about Killian Hayes in this thread. I've only been able to watch highlights and read analysis by a few draft people + Ethan Sherwood Strauss, but I think he's a very intriguing prospect. I like his size at the 1, he's a creative passer, his percentages on 2P and 3P shots are very encouraging, and his highlight reel is littered with smart plays and reads. Of course, highlight reels aren't representative of a player as a whole, but the intelligence and creative moxie in the highlights made me believe that his skillset would translate well at the NBA level, whereas some highlight reels of players dribbling themselves into contested 2's should be huge red flags.

Yeah, Killian is someone I really like as well. If we're picking a player high in the draft, I'd prefer it to be one of Hayes/Okoro/Avdija. I think those 3 can have an immediate impact and are all players who can improve a lot going forwards as well.

[freypies]

Anyone else been looking into Tyler Bey? I REALLY like him as a wing prospect. Hope he falls low enough for us to pick him with one of our second round picks.

[Phase 3]

I want the best player..I don’t give a rats a** about who the father is or who goofball draft sites like.

This is all about playing the game...and if you have any clue at all you know the player with the most “baggage” on the court is Anthony Edwards..Dude is hyped so hard but plays an awful brand of basketball..He’s selfish and lazy..his team’s conference record is like 2-173 this season..he has zero positive impact and this is while playing against future insurance salesmen.

Looks like I found the LaMelo Ball fan.

And yeah Edwards has some bad habits..

has “some bad habits”? ..that’s like saying Charlie Manson had some bad habits

Yesterday =Anthony Edwards with 6pts 4rebs and 4 turnovers ..Georgia now 2-188 in conference play

Awful lazy D and never moves an inch when he doesn't have the rock..Ya he's special..

At one point early in the 1st half he made a 3 after he had missed 18 3 pointers in a row over the last few games..the announcer praised him for 5 minutes!! (Not exaggerating)

The hype for this scrub is unfrickenbelievable

Ant Man didn't even take one 2 point shot the entire game..

Not one drive

Not one putback attempt

Not one post up vs unathletic midgets

I never even saw him run the floor


A top 5 overall pick?

Good luck

In fairness to Edwards, I read that he’s been battling the flu and the coach pulled him out of one game due to that.

I’ve actually seen pundits all over the place on Edwards. Some have him going 1 or 2 but I’ve actually listened to quite a few draft analysts that don’t like him at all. His success in the NBA will be highly dependent on who drafts him imo. If a bad organization drafts him, then good luck....

[Phase 3]

I'm surprised there isn't more talk about Killian Hayes in this thread. I've only been able to watch highlights and read analysis by a few draft people + Ethan Sherwood Strauss, but I think he's a very intriguing prospect. I like his size at the 1, he's a creative passer, his percentages on 2P and 3P shots are very encouraging, and his highlight reel is littered with smart plays and reads. Of course, highlight reels aren't representative of a player as a whole, but the intelligence and creative moxie in the highlights made me believe that his skillset would translate well at the NBA level, whereas some highlight reels of players dribbling themselves into contested 2's should be huge red flags.

He’s intriguing for a guy that is really young. Whoever drafts him will need to be patient. He’s definitely got some tools though...

One concern I have is that he’s not a great athlete and has struggled a bit against pesky defenders that get up in his grill.

He’s a young 18yr old though so who really knows what he’ll be in 3-4 years...and I can probably say that for a lot of the top prospects in this draft. Other than Wiseman, the top prospects will probably take some time before they can make a significant impact.

[BongBoyKlay]

Makur Maker has been declared eligible for the 2020 draft. He hasn't said he will enter the draft, but many believe that that is his intention. Not sure how much this is going to shake up the draft, but he is currently the number 12 player in the class of 2020.

His body is already more built and heavier than Thon's is now, which is definitely a plus as that was a weakness of Thon's. He also sees to have a better feel for the game and a higher IQ.

I don't know a ton about him, but what do you guys think his potential will be, and how will he impact this year's draft if he enters? I could see a team taking him in the top 10 due to the weakness of the draft and his high ceiling.

[BongBoyKlay]

I'm surprised there isn't more talk about Killian Hayes in this thread. I've only been able to watch highlights and read analysis by a few draft people + Ethan Sherwood Strauss, but I think he's a very intriguing prospect. I like his size at the 1, he's a creative passer, his percentages on 2P and 3P shots are very encouraging, and his highlight reel is littered with smart plays and reads. Of course, highlight reels aren't representative of a player as a whole, but the intelligence and creative moxie in the highlights made me believe that his skillset would translate well at the NBA level, whereas some highlight reels of players dribbling themselves into contested 2's should be huge red flags.

I have also joined the Killian Hayes hype train. I really like his potential as a lead guard. I think he still has a ton of potential given his age and his rapid rate of improvement. Just from last year, his athleticism has improved a solid amount, and he has shown a lot of growth in terms of reading and reacting to the other team. I have faith in his shooting and although it is a small sample size, 91% on free throws is a good indicator of his shooting potential. His shot seems more translatable than Haliburton's even though Haliburton is shooting a higher percentage.

His passing and IQ is very good for his age, and I think he is only scratching the surface in that regard. He makes a lot of smart plays, but sometimes he makes the read a little later and either ends up not throwing the pass or turning it over. I think with more experience he will be able to make these types of reads much faster because he has already shown the ability to do it sometimes. His PnR passing is already very good and should only get better. He knows where the ball needs to go and is always trying to make the right basketball play unlike some of the other guards at the top of this draft.

He seems like a very intelligent player based on his tapes and interviews. He really seems to want to get better and learn more about the game, and the Warriors would be a great place for him to learn. He would be great off the bench for his first few years, and his size would allow him to guard 2s and play alongside Steph. I also believe his basketball IQ and length will allow him to develop into a good defender even though he may have athletic limitations.

He is pretty left hand dominant, but he's very young so that should improve with time if he puts in in the work.

[DAWill1128]

In the circumstance the Knicks bypass us in the draft and decide to select Wiseman do we pursue a deal with them? The Knicks may decide they like Wiseman more than Mitchell Robinson and try to ship Robinson for something.

Would you trade our lottery pick for Robinson or trade Paschall for Robinson? If we traded Paschall then does Obi Toppin fit into our mix? Or do we take Edwards to play 6th man and accomplish a shot blocker and a 6th man all while still having the TPE, Minny pick, and MLE to fill in depth?

I would absolutely trade Paschall for Robinson. I’m not high on Paschall’s upside or overall skill set. I don’t see Paschall advancing beyond beyond a 6th or 7th man, whereas I can see Robinson becoming a top-15 center in the league.

If I’m trading our (almost certainly top-5) draft pick, I’m assuming that I can get more for it than Robinson, so if that’s all the offer would be (with no other sweetener), I probably don’t do that deal.

We should form a verbal agreement with the Knicks that if they get Wiseman and are high on him we will make a deal with them. They can take our 1st for Mitchell Robinson, since he would become redundant. Or we can trade them Paschall for Robinson, and I actually think Paschall is a great building piece next to Wiseman. I would prefer the pick after having horrible flashbacks of high picks being used on Udoh and Diogu. I think Paschall could benefit from less defensive coverage with the Splash brothers. Mitchell Robinson would make us legit on defense and would be a cool young building block.

This is draft fascinating because Wiseman is the clear cut guy for us and we have the worst record. The next four teams are the Wolves (Towns), Cavs (Drummond), Hawks (Capela), and the Knicks (Robinson) so something has to give. Robinson is the only guy that works contractually, Capela is fascinating because he is at 16M this year and 18M next so we barely miss out on a Hawks deal with the TPE in the circumstance they pick 1st.

[michaelwarner]

Something I'm not really seeing is, and I apologize if I've missed it, but is anyone worried about Steph's return mucking up our top 3 chances? There's 20 games in March/April. The schedule is brutal. But there are at least 6 winnable games, With maybe a game or three potentially there to be stolen. There are 6 teams within 6 games of us.

Maybe I have PTSD from the years spent discussing the Niner's top pick strategy only to have late season meaningless wins derail that.