2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

[cdubbz]

The Warriors will need to be deep at Center position to face the Lakers. Anthony Davis is a problem. Blazers, Nuggets, and Heat all have several bigs but AD still dominated.

Wiseman, Looney, Meyers Leonard (minimum), another minimum center.

[jason bourne]

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I think Tyrese was for if the Warriors traded down. Haliburton has been droppin' like a rock tho. He's been exposed as a bit slow and can't create his own shot -- https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2020/06/03/golden-state-warriors-tyrese-haliburton-nba-draft/.

Instead, I think he's been replaced by Kilian Hayes. I dunno. It depends who the Warriors trade with and what pick they get back.

Thus, the argument for keeping the pick if LaMelo goes #1 and some confusion,

I still think you take and keep the best guy in Anthony Edwards at #2, but

"However, given the draft needs of Golden State, their high lottery pick would be better spent for: a viable starting big man (e.g. Onyeka Okongwu or James Wisman), an athletic forward who could eventually replace Draymond Green (e.g. Patrick Williams or Obi Toppin) or one of the guards mentioned above that can provide bench scoring (e.g. Hayes and Ball)."

[Mylie10]

The Warriors will need to be deep at Center position to face the Lakers. Anthony Davis is a problem. Blazers, Nuggets, and Heat all have several bigs but AD still dominated.

Wiseman, Looney, Meyers Leonard (minimum), another minimum center.

Wiseman
Chriss
Looney
Draymond

Is a good start.

[jason bourne]

For those Wiseman fans, here's why the Hornets want him and they have a lot of holes to fill. They want scoring in the middle. There's no reason for the Warriors to draft him as they're a more established team and don't need an inside scorer. They want more of a primary inside defender and rebounder. Perimeter defense and passing ability would be a plus. IOW, they want to take BPA instead of drafting for need.

"The Hornets’ top two scorers in 2019/20 – Devonte’ Graham and Terry Rozier – are also guards, but president of basketball operations Mitch Kupchak has repeatedly stated that he won’t let positional considerations impact his pick in this year’s lottery. And Graham and Rozier don’t have the same level of upside that Ball does.

If Ball comes off the board before the Hornets pick, Kupchak could instead turn to Wiseman, an athletic seven-footer who remains a work in progress on both ends of the floor, but has big-time potential as both a scorer and a rim protector. If he develops as planned, Wiseman could be Charlotte’s long-term answer in the middle."

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/09/2020-nba-offseason-preview-charlotte-hornets.html

Here's one that lists his positives, but also think he's got a motor issue and is not an alpha dog type of C
https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/charlotte-hornets-james-wiseman-draft

[ILOVEIT]

IF the Warriors are light years ahead....then they turn the #2 pick into two top ten picks (assuming they don't make a blockbuster trade out of the #2 pick and Wiggins). It is very likely that there are teams dying to get either Lamelo or Wiseman....Both players have that "solving the franchise problem" fantasy upside.

Warriors then take Deni and a player in the 9-10 range.....Isaac Okoro or Obi Topin (I've seen mocks with him as low as 10).

Getting two talented and physically mature players helps depth right now.

Example of how it's done? Warriors tell Chicago they don't want any of their players....want two picks instead. Chicago makes a trade of Wendell Carter Jr for a #10 pick.

[ShayDee]

IF the Warriors are light years ahead....then they turn the #2 pick into two top ten picks (assuming they don't make a blockbuster trade out of the #2 pick and Wiggins). It is very likely that there are teams dying to get either Lamelo or Wiseman....Both players have that "solving the franchise problem" fantasy upside.

Warriors then take Deni and a player in the 9-10 range.....Isaac Okoro or Obi Topin (I've seen mocks with him as low as 10).

Getting two talented and physically mature players helps depth right now.

Example of how it's done? Warriors tell Chicago they don't want any of their players....want two picks instead. Chicago makes a trade of Wendell Carter Jr for a #10 pick.

Instead of 2 top 10, far more realistic with lottery and mid first

Get Bane with mid first and use the other lottery of someone with upside. So we get an immediate NBA reedy player that can shoot, pass and defend and we get a good upside defensive wing

[cdubbz]

The Warriors will need to be deep at Center position to face the Lakers. Anthony Davis is a problem. Blazers, Nuggets, and Heat all have several bigs but AD still dominated.

Wiseman, Looney, Meyers Leonard (minimum), another minimum center.

Wiseman
Chriss
Looney
Draymond

Is a good start.

I always forget about Quese. Yeah not bad, Looney is always up in the air. I would like a pure inside big on the team though - a paint protector. Love Quese and I think Wiseman will be decent defensively in the lost, but need a real heavyweight vet. Robin Lopez for example. AD is too advanced for young guys

[Scoots1994]

The Warriors will need to be deep at Center position to face the Lakers. Anthony Davis is a problem. Blazers, Nuggets, and Heat all have several bigs but AD still dominated.

Wiseman, Looney, Meyers Leonard (minimum), another minimum center.

Wiseman
Chriss
Looney
Draymond

Is a good start.

I always forget about Quese. Yeah not bad, Looney is always up in the air. I would like a pure inside big on the team though - a paint protector. Love Quese and I think Wiseman will be decent defensively in the lost, but need a real heavyweight vet. Robin Lopez for example. AD is too advanced for young guys

There were some hints that Looney wasn't all that injured last year and that he was missing a lot of time more because of the tank. That would be nice.

I like that Chriss has been working on his screens and passing out of screens as well as working hard on his shooting.

[ILOVEIT]

IF the Warriors are light years ahead....then they turn the #2 pick into two top ten picks (assuming they don't make a blockbuster trade out of the #2 pick and Wiggins). It is very likely that there are teams dying to get either Lamelo or Wiseman....Both players have that "solving the franchise problem" fantasy upside.

Warriors then take Deni and a player in the 9-10 range.....Isaac Okoro or Obi Topin (I've seen mocks with him as low as 10).

Getting two talented and physically mature players helps depth right now.

Example of how it's done? Warriors tell Chicago they don't want any of their players....want two picks instead. Chicago makes a trade of Wendell Carter Jr for a #10 pick.

Instead of 2 top 10, far more realistic with lottery and mid first

Get Bane with mid first and use the other lottery of someone with upside. So we get an immediate NBA reedy player that can shoot, pass and defend and we get a good upside defensive wing

Yes...for sure more likely...but that is the tact I would take if I'm Bob Myers. Assuming they have some superior scouting and know what they want...(and assuming it's not the current projected top 3).

[Little Digger]

There’s no evidence the Charcoal State Warriors have superior International scouts

[jason bourne]

I heard today that Wiseman has fallen due to not participating in the combine. I know, I know nobody participated in the combine, but James Wiseman remains such a mystery that now even the Hornets could pass him up. They aren't the brightest front office, but they may go for some other players like Killian Hayes or Deni Avdija.

[Coxy]

There’s no evidence the Charcoal State Warriors have superior International scouts

We went through our horrible fires in January right before the world shut down. Felt like half of Australia was on fire. Hope everyone stays safe over there, these fires spread so quickly and take no prisoners.

[jason bourne]

For example, Wiseman's measurements aren't like Joel Embiid's or what he's reportedly at. Somewhere between Myles Turner and Rudy Gobert. He's not 7' 1". No 7' 6" wingspan. It's less, but not by that much. Here's the closest measurement I could find from the Memphis Tigers -- 7' 4.5" wingspan, 9' 6" standing reach, 247 lbs --

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Not certain of his height, but I think it's less than 7' 0" barefoot. nbadraft.net has 6' 11.5" barefoot, 7' 0.5" shoes. If Wiseman was able to be measured at the combine, then we'd have a better idea.

[jason bourne]

Here's a nice vid about perimeter defenders.

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Thanks, guys. I'm going to be leaving realgm/warriors and just stay to the GB again.

[ChuckDurn]

For example, Wiseman's measurements aren't like Joel Embiid's or what he's reportedly at. Somewhere between Myles Turner and Rudy Gobert. He's not 7' 1". No 7' 6" wingspan. It's less, but not by that much. Here's the closest measurement I could find from the Memphis Tigers -- 7' 4.5" wingspan, 9' 6" standing reach, 247 lbs --

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Not certain of his height, but I think it's less than 7' 0" barefoot. nbadraft.net has 6' 11.5" barefoot, 7' 0.5" shoes. If Wiseman was able to be measured at the combine, then we'd have a better idea.

Silly as it sounds, in the past players’ heights have been listed with shoes rather than barefoot. That’s how for years Draymond has been listed as 6’7”, when he’s probably actually no more than 6’5” without shoes. I think they changed the standard last year to adopt the “without shoes” as the official listing. But if the measurement was that Wiseman is/was 7’0.5” with shoes, then he’s a 7-footer in what we think of historically.

I note that that measurement was about a year ago, and it’s not inconceivable anyway that he might have grown a little bit more both in height and reach, so I’d suspect the 7’1” with 7’6” reach may not be over-stated at all (per the way we’ve historically captured height - with shoes). And if so, he’s right in there with Embiid and only slightly behind Gobert.

[Onus]

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Deni is not a poor defender he’s actually very versatile. He’ll be able to guard 1-5

[Rudruff]

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Deni is not a poor defender he’s actually very versatile. He’ll be able to guard 1-5

He won't be taking any DPOY votes away from Draymond, but there was certainly effort and he seemed to always know where to be on rotations. His team certainly didn't hide him.

[Onus]

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Deni is not a poor defender he’s actually very versatile. He’ll be able to guard 1-5

He won't be taking any DPOY votes away from Draymond, but there was certainly effort and he seemed to always know where to be on rotations. His team certainly didn't hide him.

He won’t be in the running for dpoy but he’s not a negative on that end. He doesn’t need to be hidden and he’ll make defensive plays. He’ll be a plus defender that will be able to switch everything.

The last play of the game they put him on Shane Larkin the EuroLeague mvp to ice the game.

[atlantabbq99]

Would GSW fans be interested in trading #1 for #6 and a heavily protected 1st round pick (3yr lottery protection) ?

[Onus]

Would GSW fans be interested in trading #1 for #6 and a heavily protected 1st round pick (3yr lottery protection) ?

I’d give you a top 1 protection.