Should the Warriors make a trade?

[Twinkie defense]

Wonder what Miami asking for Butler now? Hopefully nothing more than Wiggs and fillers, like Sch, sloMo, PG2... and no 1st.

Warriors value Wiggins very highly, I don't think they'd want to trade Wiggins for Jimmy Butler.

[ILOVEIT]

Posted on the trade thread and will summarize here.
Warriors need to go hard after Lavin and Myles Turner with Kumgina and a first rounder in the trades.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Wonder what Miami asking for Butler now? Hopefully nothing more than Wiggs and fillers, like Sch, sloMo, PG2... and no 1st.

Warriors value Wiggins very highly, I don't think they'd want to trade Wiggins for Jimmy Butler.

Some reports that the Warriors want to salary dump wiggins in any lavine or Butler deal. Jk is made untouchable again in order to get maxed out. I'm betting the source is lacob.

[510TWSS]

I get it that the blue chip guys may not be available to trade but I also don’t get the hesitancy to trade Kuminga or future 1sts.


Hopefully we’re just blowing smoke and driving up values but if not holy **** what are we doing in Steph’s final competitive years

[superunknown]

Posted on the trade thread and will summarize here.
Warriors need to go hard after Lavin and Myles Turner with Kumgina and a first rounder in the trades.

and how you plan to do that with kuminga making what, 7M a year?
you need to extend him first for at least 30M a year and the trade him, basically you need to execute a sign& trade with him so to have the salary match for make some big trade without gutting the rest of the roster. it's simply mathematics.
any move involving wiggins going out will not move the needle much. you need to keep the best players you have and add more good players.

[wco81]

There were some pundits talking about Steph not having a sidekick, since Klay got injured and is now off the team.

Some of them say Curry should have been a diva, demanding that Warriors trade to get a second star on the team while he's still playing.

Warriors are easily shut down if they trap Curry and guys aren't making open shots. But they also don't have anyone else who can reliably create very high percentage shots for themselves or others.

Kuminga can sometimes do it but not as efficiently as he was last season.

Wiggins can have very good games going downhill, posting up mismatches, even pull up long jumpers and 3s and the shot clock is running down.

Is there any player who would be available who can exploit one on one when Curry is trapped? Supposedly Lavine can be very efficient in pull-ups as well as going to the hole. But how consistent is he, because while he's gone off and helped the Bulls beat very good teams, he can't be doing it too consistently or else the Bulls would have a better record.

Could he be a very good #2?

Of course that's not even accounting for what the Bulls would demand for him. But as a rule, max contract players aren't available in trades so the pickings are slim.

[chococo]

Anyone proposing the idea of trading Wiggins should watch the Warriors vs. Mavs and Warriors vs. Celtics in the 2022 Conference Finals and Finals, and you can even go back to the series against Grizzlies. Wiggins is a great compliment to Steph who needs to play with a defensive specialist (think: Thompson), and I think Warriors mgmt understands that. Btw., I just re-watched the highlights of those series and they were special. The Celtics were around .500 halfway through the season, turned things around, and made it to the 2022 Finals. Hope the Dubs can do the same this season. I believe they can.

[TB]

I had proposed going after NAW using Trayce, but if thats not there I'd even give Chicago a call to try and swap Trayce for Julian Phillips.

I think he is quickly going to be a player that you can put on a dominant guard (the SGA, Ja, Mitchell types) in a similar way to GP2, McDaniels, KCP, NAW, etc.. and his 3 ball is coming around where he may be on the NAW level as soon as next year.

The upside with Phillips is much higher than Trayce imo, so thats one I'd be trying to get ahead of now... especially having Loon/Dray/Post/Kyle all able to play center.

This is a trade the media and radio callers would be furious at that I'm almost sure would be beneficial in the long run (and short term if it means more Loon/Post and small ball).

[wco81]

Get this, while considering acquiring Butler, Curry expressed concern about fit in the locker room.

But you know who else did? Draymond, of all people.

Two potential locker room cancers.

Supposedly they think Lavine would be a more chill personality.

[whatisacenter]

Get this, while considering acquiring Butler, Curry expressed concern about fit in the locker room.

But you know who else did? Draymond, of all people.

Two potential locker room cancers.

Supposedly they think Lavine would be a more chill personality.

Shocker that anyone might wonder about Butler being a negative in the locker room!

I would be so bummed if they ended up trading for him.

[wco81]

Lavine would be the best scorer whom Curry has played with since 2019 before KD got injured.

So says The Ringer NBA podcast.

Might not be wrong.

But apparently they considered trading for him last season or during the offseason and didn't think it was worth it.

Now if they did try to get Lavine, who's wanted by maybe a team like the Bucks, the price would be higher than when they previously had discussions with the Bulls.

I hope it's not real that Podz and Kuminga are off the table as it's being reported.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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[marthafokker]

Like I said in the trade thread... I rather have Vuc. Just to keep Wiggins. Vuc is a major upgrade at center even with his warts and all.

Wiggins is our best defender not named Dray. I actually prefer Wiggins more because he is not a distraction, available to play, and a better offensive player.

[whatisacenter]

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Dude, I'm old and have no idea what this means....care to explain?

[wco81]

Apparently Wiggins' account showing a photo of him and Lavine matched up against each other.

So he thinks they're going to be teammates or traded for each other?

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Dude, I'm old and have no idea what this means....care to explain?

Those guys are really good friends. So, it could be just hes my guy since we just played together. Or we will play together on the same team in the future.

[NW]

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Dude, I'm old and have no idea what this means....care to explain?

Those guys are really good friends. So, it could be just hes my guy since we just played together. Or we will play together on the same team in the future.

It’s neither. It’s one picture in a pack from the most recent games. Isn’t just the one of Wiggins and LaVine

[Crazy-Canuck]

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[Onus]

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I just don't see how it works without trading Curry, Wiggins, Dray, JK or BP. Like the money just doesn't work unless Looney is going out as well and then we're stuck with Post, TJD and Dray as our only centers. Dray is already breaking down playing limited minutes at the 5. TJD sucks and Post isn't ready to play in high leverage situations.

DS/GP/KA/BH/MM for ZL/JP?

I just don't see how we can fill out the rest of the roster money wise. Can we fill 3 roster spots with 1 M left? Probably not which is why we'd have to trade Looney as well and get a usable center somewhere without giving up draft assets.

It'd be a nice lineup if we could fill 3 roster spots for 1M. Could we convert all our 2 ways for that amount? Does Jackson Rowe or Pat Spencer have any years of experience in the NBA? Since their contracts would be pro-rated for a minimum salary with 0 years of experience?

Curry/Podz
Zach/Waters
Wiggins/Gui/JP
Dray/JK
Looney/Post/TJD

[TB]

agree with all the concerns above with Onus, need to do some serious trade machine and contract counting to see what's even possible...

But I will say that adding Lavine (or Jimmy for that matter) while KEEPING Wiggins is the key to it actually being an all-in bet of improvement vs just swapping one problem for another. I obviously would love to have Looney if we bring in Lavine, but a lineup of Steph, Lavine, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray could cause a ton of problems for teams. Not to mention swapping Kuminga with GP2 or Moody for defense or shooting (or maybe because Kuminga would be going to Chicago in this scenario).