Trade Oubre PRONTO.

[East Bay Sports]

I am Oubre's biggest fan I love him and i'm glad he got his powers back after getting space jam'd early in the year

[parsnips33]

I'm not KO's biggest fan, but I can't get over how freaking hilarious this is. This guy is somethin else.

I said it before, but dude is the funniest NBA player since Lance Stephenson

[FNQ]

I dont think hes even playing better, hes just making shot. Outside of limiting his isos, hes kinda playing the same way he did at the start of the year.

Outside of curry and wiggins, everyone else has been maddeningly inconsistent.

He isn't. He's the beneficiary of some nicely designed plays though, where it doesnt require any decision making on his part.. was talking with the wife during the last game, and she mentioned that hes "too dumb to be afraid" and when I watch him play, I see that. He has no fear in terms of going up to the rim, going up for a block, and that's great.. but since he has a negative BBIQ, has to be held in check. Think Kerr has done a great job of working around Oubre's limitations

That said, he still jams up our offensive rotations and he still misses defensive rotations consistently. And frankly I dont think his 1 on 1 defense is all that good either. He goes for steals and runs around franticly - that's not good defense.

[ClutchUp]

I dont think hes even playing better, hes just making shot. Outside of limiting his isos, hes kinda playing the same way he did at the start of the year.

Outside of curry and wiggins, everyone else has been maddeningly inconsistent.

Disagree. He's clearly moving and cutting without the ball better than he did at the start of the year.

[ILOVEIT]

Welll...dare I say...I think he's a keeper!

He's IS cutting without the ball...is defending well....and is 3 point shot has come around.

Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Wiseman
Oubre off the bench....yes.

[Impuniti]

I dont think hes even playing better, hes just making shot. Outside of limiting his isos, hes kinda playing the same way he did at the start of the year.

Outside of curry and wiggins, everyone else has been maddeningly inconsistent.

He isn't. He's the beneficiary of some nicely designed plays though, where it doesnt require any decision making on his part.. was talking with the wife during the last game, and she mentioned that hes "too dumb to be afraid" and when I watch him play, I see that. He has no fear in terms of going up to the rim, going up for a block, and that's great.. but since he has a negative BBIQ, has to be held in check. Think Kerr has done a great job of working around Oubre's limitations

That said, he still jams up our offensive rotations and he still misses defensive rotations consistently. And frankly I dont think his 1 on 1 defense is all that good either. He goes for steals and runs around franticly - that's not good defense.

While I'm with you on the offensive side of things, you're being a bit harsh on him defensively. Yeah he tries a bit much to steal sometimes and forgets defensive rotations at times, but he's a net positive defensively. As for def rotations, I see others missing it just as much as he does, not seeing a massive disparity here.

The team is currently 4th in def eff, he is a reason for that. I think if the team stays fit, they will finish in the top 3 by the end of the season.

[Sleepy51]

Welll...dare I say...I think he's a keeper!

He's IS cutting without the ball...is defending well....and is 3 point shot has come around.

Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Wiseman
Oubre off the bench....yes.

Losing in the 2nd round

Clay has unkown proficiency coming off 2 years of leg injuries, Draymond is in a major scoring regression. Oubre is still going to have troughs to match his peaks. Wiggins is still finding his role as a deeper roster option and though steady does not appear to have higher highs to be discovered. Wiseman is going to be 20 and still inexperienced and not a mature C body.

This is a nice roster to compete in the playoffs, but it's not a championship team. Something in the starting unit will have to be upgraded. Someone has to go if we are going to get back to contender level.

[FNQ]

I dont think hes even playing better, hes just making shot. Outside of limiting his isos, hes kinda playing the same way he did at the start of the year.

Outside of curry and wiggins, everyone else has been maddeningly inconsistent.

He isn't. He's the beneficiary of some nicely designed plays though, where it doesnt require any decision making on his part.. was talking with the wife during the last game, and she mentioned that hes "too dumb to be afraid" and when I watch him play, I see that. He has no fear in terms of going up to the rim, going up for a block, and that's great.. but since he has a negative BBIQ, has to be held in check. Think Kerr has done a great job of working around Oubre's limitations

That said, he still jams up our offensive rotations and he still misses defensive rotations consistently. And frankly I dont think his 1 on 1 defense is all that good either. He goes for steals and runs around franticly - that's not good defense.

While I'm with you on the offensive side of things, you're being a bit harsh on him defensively. Yeah he tries a bit much to steal sometimes and forgets defensive rotations at times, but he's a net positive defensively. As for def rotations, I see others missing it just as much as he does, not seeing a massive disparity here.

The team is currently 4th in def eff, he is a reason for that. I think if the team stays fit, they will finish in the top 3 by the end of the season.

Defensively he's tough to measure. Because the steals are valuable, and being a bit unpredictable can work for both us and the other team, depending on situation. A big part of our defensive efficiency is Ron Adams' system, and how it allows smaller people to be more effective than usual, which really caters to us this season.

As far as missing as much as others.. I def dont see that, aside from Wiseman, who has more to learn than Oubre. And I think I see it with Oubre more because I see his confusion bleeding so much.. tonight, watch him when he's on the other side of the court from the ball. If the ball swings over to his side but not his man, thats where I see it most. He gets lost and floats. If Draymond doesnt yell at him to the correct position, its a domino effect and stuff breaks down, especially at the 3pt line

[floppymoose]

He's absolutely playing better. The denial is strong. Earlier he was in the wrong spot on offense frequently. Now he is functioning within the team offense much better.

[shazam_guy]

I said a couple of months ago that by the end of the season, some of the people most strenuously dissing Oubre would have changed their minds.

I smell revisionism on the wind. Not here yet, but it's coming. To the surprise of many, apparently, it's taking time to integrate some of the new players, and Oubre is definitely an odd bird, fit-wise. But it's getting much better and he's looking like what they paid for.

[wco81]

They're going to have to trade him, just to keep his salary slot right?

Unless they really think he could help them make a run in the playoffs this year or in future years and they plan to re-sign him?

[tarantism]

They're going to have to trade him, just to keep his salary slot right?

Unless they really think he could help them make a run in the playoffs this year or in future years and they plan to re-sign him?

Its definitely tbe prudent move. One way or another he won't be on the team next year.

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[xdrta+]

They're going to have to trade him, just to keep his salary slot right?

Unless they really think he could help them make a run in the playoffs this year or in future years and they plan to re-sign him?

Its definitely tbe prudent move. One way or another he won't be on the team next year.

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You don't think they would re-sign him if they like the way the rest of the year goes?

[tarantism]

They're going to have to trade him, just to keep his salary slot right?

Unless they really think he could help them make a run in the playoffs this year or in future years and they plan to re-sign him?

Its definitely tbe prudent move. One way or another he won't be on the team next year.

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You don't think they would re-sign him if they like the way the rest of the year goes?

I mean, if they could somehow get him at or under his current number and get him to buy into a limited 15-25 mpg bench role? Sure - if he keeps improving.

The problem is its pretty unlikely that either of those things are happening. He's probably getting 20m/yr or so on the open market which is just too much for us to pay for a guy who would be 6th man at best next season. Oubre also has no reason to take a smaller role with the Warriors when he could get the same money (or more) to start elsewhere. He's going to look at what Jeremi Grant did this year and look for similar money and opportunity.

So it makes the most sense to sell high on him to preserve the salary slot for next year instead, or move him for a couple of players under contract next year who fill holes on the roster.

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[xdrta+]

Its definitely tbe prudent move. One way or another he won't be on the team next year.

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You don't think they would re-sign him if they like the way the rest of the year goes?

I mean, if they could somehow get him at or under his current number and get him to buy into a limited 15-25 mpg bench role? Sure - if he keeps improving.

The problem is its pretty unlikely that either of those things are happening. He's probably getting 20m/yr or so on the open market which is just too much for us to pay for a guy who would be 6th man at best next season. Oubre also has no reason to take a smaller role with the Warriors when he could get the same money (or more) to start elsewhere. He's going to look at what Jeremi Grant did this year and look for similar money and opportunity.

So it makes the most sense to sell high on him to preserve the salary slot for next year instead, or move him for a couple of players under contract next year who fill holes on the roster.

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Well, there's a month before the deadline, so anything is possible. I don't think they'll trade him because I just don't see a deal out there that's worth it. But that's just me. And if he shows out the rest of the season so that the market for him is $20M or so, I could see the Warriors making that offer. For one thing, who knows what Klay will be like next season or when he'll be ready. Worst case, he walks and Lacob saves a ton of money. IMO, a $14M salary slot isn't as important as some make it out to be.

I know most people see it differently, though. We'll have to see how it plays out.

[Old_Blue]

Twelve months is an aggressive timeline for Klay to recover from Achilles surgery. It's also a really great way to land him on the DL again. For this reason, I take it for granted that the Warriors will want a replacement at shooting guard to start next season. However, Oubre's playing himself into a multi-year offer. So, we may well need to (1) look elsewhere for a shooting guard this offseason or (2) trade Oubre at the deadline for another shooter with a year left on his contract. Between those two options, I'd rather do the trade, especially if it netted us a high second round pick in addition to a player.

[wco81]

Choices are:

1. Keep Oubre the rest of the season, then let him walk.

2. Extend Oubre.

3. Trade Oubre for another wing who is under contract beyond this season in the same contract range, on the assumption that this player will contribute the rest of this season and future season(s).


To go with #1, you have to believe that Klay will come back 100%, over 40% from 3 on volume as well as still be able to defend 1-3 effectively. Will that be enough to make the Warriors contenders? Or, Klay alone won't help the Warriors get back to the top but the team can't afford to keep that salary slot for next season and beyond.

Option 2, you have to believe Warriors need more scoring regardless of Klay, even if that scoring may be inconsistent.

For option 3, you have to believe that Warriors need another quality wing starter or one who commands a lot of minutes, being able to contribute on both ends and that Oubre is not that player.


With the cash crunch the Warriors are experiencing -- Lacob is trying to sell a minority stake to get an infusion of cash -- the decision may be #1, regardless of what we fans hope for.

[FNQ]

Twelve months is an aggressive timeline for Klay to recover from Achilles surgery. It's also a really great way to land him on the DL again. For this reason, I take it for granted that the Warriors will want a replacement at shooting guard to start next season. However, Oubre's playing himself into a multi-year offer. So, we may well need to (1) look elsewhere for a shooting guard this offseason or (2) trade Oubre at the deadline for another shooter with a year left on his contract. Between those two options, I'd rather do the trade, especially if it netted us a high second round pick in addition to a player.

lotsa grads from google U have been chiming in on Klay and Achilles injuries in general

just like microfractures

just like ACLs

[marthafokker]

Too bad NOP not interested with Lonzo swap any more.

Just to not see Wanamaker would have been worth it.

[FNQ]

Too bad NOP not interested with Lonzo swap any more.

Just to not see Wanamaker would have been worth it.

We could literally just cut him and promote Poole and we'd lose nothing

But people have already written off a young shooter because of one year