James Wiseman 2021/2022

[michaelm]

How would Lamelo contribute defensively? Could he be counted on to work as hard on defense as Kerr requires to get minutes? His DRPM last season was -2.37 which was among the worst in basketball, only slightly better than no defense midget Kira Lewis.

LaMelo has better measurements and BBIQ than Poole and takes on a much bigger offensive workload. He’d be fine. Kerr also plays Chris Chiozza alongside Steph Curry and Jordan Poole, despite the fact that Chiozza is among the worst players in the NBA and a turnstile defensively. Ball would be fine.

You know what's a really crappy defensive effort?...A guy who never actually plays. Wiseman has missed 105 out of a possible 147 college and pro games since he left high school.

As it is said the best ability is availability.

LaMelo would have been handy last game, and while I still hold hopes for Wiseman the PG of the future is probably more important than the Center of the future if GSW are really going to be light years ahead, with Poole not looking like that guy just now, unless Wiseman becomes both more robust and develops into a modern Center a la Mobley. Very unlikely he will develop a KD-like skill set, although something along those lines was quite likely their hope imo.

An injury such as Wiseman's can probably be ascribed to bad luck however, and they have managed the injury with an eye to the future by attempting to heal it, and LaMelo 'developing into the shooter he has was probably not very predictable. I do wonder about drafting 19 year old 7 footers in general, even apart from the likely development time perhaps gangly kids should not be subjected to the stresses of NBA basketball.

[SF_Warriors]

LaMelo has better measurements and BBIQ than Poole and takes on a much bigger offensive workload. He’d be fine. Kerr also plays Chris Chiozza alongside Steph Curry and Jordan Poole, despite the fact that Chiozza is among the worst players in the NBA and a turnstile defensively. Ball would be fine.

You know what's a really crappy defensive effort?...A guy who never actually plays. Wiseman has missed 105 out of a possible 147 college and pro games since he left high school.

As it is said the best ability is availability.

LaMelo would have been handy last game, and while I still hold hopes for Wiseman the PG of the future is probably more important than the Center of the future if GSW are really going to be light years ahead, with Poole not looking like that guy just now, unless Wiseman becomes both more robust and develops into a modern Center a la Mobley. Very unlikely he will develop a KD-like skill set, although something along those lines was quite likely their hope imo.

An injury such as Wiseman's can probably be ascribed to bad luck however, and they have managed the injury with an eye to the future by attempting to heal it, and LaMelo 'developing into the shooter he has was probably not very predictable. I do wonder about drafting 19 year old 7 footers in general, even apart from the likely development time perhaps gangly kids should not be subjected to the stresses of NBA basketball.

Mobley is doing just fine and he is as gangly as it gets. Wiseman I think could help the team sharing backup minutes with Bjeli. He wasnt ready to start last year, but as a backup in situational matchups? Perhaps he can find some success there. Of course, thats not the type of guy we want at #2, but he is still in the developmental stage. No sense in pouting over not drafting melo, we need to move on with what we got.

[michaelm]

You know what's a really crappy defensive effort?...A guy who never actually plays. Wiseman has missed 105 out of a possible 147 college and pro games since he left high school.

As it is said the best ability is availability.

LaMelo would have been handy last game, and while I still hold hopes for Wiseman the PG of the future is probably more important than the Center of the future if GSW are really going to be light years ahead, with Poole not looking like that guy just now, unless Wiseman becomes both more robust and develops into a modern Center a la Mobley. Very unlikely he will develop a KD-like skill set, although something along those lines was quite likely their hope imo.

An injury such as Wiseman's can probably be ascribed to bad luck however, and they have managed the injury with an eye to the future by attempting to heal it, and LaMelo 'developing into the shooter he has was probably not very predictable. I do wonder about drafting 19 year old 7 footers in general, even apart from the likely development time perhaps gangly kids should not be subjected to the stresses of NBA basketball.

Mobley is doing just fine and he is as gangly as it gets. Wiseman I think could help the team sharing backup minutes with Bjeli. He wasnt ready to start last year, but as a backup in situational matchups? Perhaps he can find some success there. Of course, thats not the type of guy we want at #2, but he is still in the developmental stage. No sense in pouting over not drafting melo, we need to move on with what we got.

I have always been on the Wiseman train and stiil am to a degree, and wouldn’t have drafted LaMelo. What I was saying is that those who did want to draft him may have displayed better judgement than I had, particularly given how his shot has come around, and that without both Curry and Green there didn’t appear to be anyone who could run the team.

[SF_Warriors]

As it is said the best ability is availability.

LaMelo would have been handy last game, and while I still hold hopes for Wiseman the PG of the future is probably more important than the Center of the future if GSW are really going to be light years ahead, with Poole not looking like that guy just now, unless Wiseman becomes both more robust and develops into a modern Center a la Mobley. Very unlikely he will develop a KD-like skill set, although something along those lines was quite likely their hope imo.

An injury such as Wiseman's can probably be ascribed to bad luck however, and they have managed the injury with an eye to the future by attempting to heal it, and LaMelo 'developing into the shooter he has was probably not very predictable. I do wonder about drafting 19 year old 7 footers in general, even apart from the likely development time perhaps gangly kids should not be subjected to the stresses of NBA basketball.

Mobley is doing just fine and he is as gangly as it gets. Wiseman I think could help the team sharing backup minutes with Bjeli. He wasnt ready to start last year, but as a backup in situational matchups? Perhaps he can find some success there. Of course, thats not the type of guy we want at #2, but he is still in the developmental stage. No sense in pouting over not drafting melo, we need to move on with what we got.

I have always been on the Wiseman train and sill am to a degree, and wouldn’t have drafted LaMelo. What I was saying is that those who did want to draft him may have displayed better judgement than I had, particularly given how is shot has come around, and that with both Curry and Green out there didn’t appear to be anyone who could run the team.

I saw others that wanted to trade down and draft avdija haha. I was on the wiseman train as well and sure am eating crow for now. I am still optimistic that he can help this team, especially now that we know Looney is a capable starter. We can bring wiseman along more slowly, which is looking like what he needs. I'm sure us as fans would rather be wrong and have our team draft the right guy, rather than the team drafting the guy we wanted and it being the wrong pick. But at the same time, we dont have any control over these things and I find it useless to think about what if we drafted differently.

[B-King]

I am on the Wiseman train too, but ask me in 3 more years if we made a mistake. He is exactly what we need in a young active big. Our worst games are when we get manhandled by opposing bigs.

[GSWFan1994]

I wish we could trade Poole for Haliburton. Too late now, I guess.

[TB]

I wish we could trade Poole for Haliburton. Too late now, I guess.

While everyone non-stop talks about Lamelo over Wiseman, the real winner was the deal most on this board wanted to try and make: trading back with Knicks to get Haliburton/Bane. Now THAT is a fun what-if. Imagine Knicks with Lamelo right now and us with Hali/Bane

I still think Wiseman has a huge say in all of this when the time comes. He's going to be a really good player. Big fella just needs to get healthy.

[GSWFan1994]

While everyone non-stop talks about Lamelo over Wiseman, the real winner was the deal most on this board wanted to try and make: trading back with Knicks to get Haliburton/Bane. Now THAT is a fun what-if. Imagine Knicks with Lamelo right now and us with Hali/Bane

I still think Wiseman has a huge say in all of this when the time comes. He's going to be a really good player. Big fella just needs to get healthy.

Indeed.

Getting a late 1st rounder to draft Bane was a missed opportunity too. I don't think I was posting at that time, but I remember reading this forum (and the Draft forum as well) and really getting excited for whoever managed to get Bane.

But still, if everything goes right with Wiseman, he will add another dimension to our team. I'm still on the train; I still think he will be All-Star caliber by his 4th/5th season, excluding unforeseen injuries. I still believe.

[TB]

While everyone non-stop talks about Lamelo over Wiseman, the real winner was the deal most on this board wanted to try and make: trading back with Knicks to get Haliburton/Bane. Now THAT is a fun what-if. Imagine Knicks with Lamelo right now and us with Hali/Bane

I still think Wiseman has a huge say in all of this when the time comes. He's going to be a really good player. Big fella just needs to get healthy.

Indeed.

Getting a late 1st rounder to draft Bane was a missed opportunity too. I don't think I was posting at that time, but I remember reading this forum (and the Draft forum as well) and really getting excited for whoever managed to get Bane.

But still, if everything goes right with Wiseman, he will add another dimension to our team. I'm still on the train; I still think he will be All-Star caliber by his 4th/5th season, excluding unforeseen injuries. I still believe.

Yup I agree with all of that. Still on the Wiseman wagon even though I like bringing up the what-ifs for discussion sake

[EvanZ]

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[Old_Blue]

I wish we could trade Poole for Haliburton. Too late now, I guess.

While everyone non-stop talks about Lamelo over Wiseman, the real winner was the deal most on this board wanted to try and make: trading back with Knicks to get Haliburton/Bane. Now THAT is a fun what-if. Imagine Knicks with Lamelo right now and us with Hali/Bane

I still think Wiseman has a huge say in all of this when the time comes. He's going to be a really good player. Big fella just needs to get healthy.

I'll never understand why Boston made that draft night trade. It was a three way trade that essentially netted them only Memphis' 2023 and 2025 second round picks in exchange for Enes Kanter and Bane.

[DevinVassell]

While everyone non-stop talks about Lamelo over Wiseman, the real winner was the deal most on this board wanted to try and make: trading back with Knicks to get Haliburton/Bane. Now THAT is a fun what-if. Imagine Knicks with Lamelo right now and us with Hali/Bane

I still think Wiseman has a huge say in all of this when the time comes. He's going to be a really good player. Big fella just needs to get healthy.

Indeed.

Getting a late 1st rounder to draft Bane was a missed opportunity too. I don't think I was posting at that time, but I remember reading this forum (and the Draft forum as well) and really getting excited for whoever managed to get Bane.

But still, if everything goes right with Wiseman, he will add another dimension to our team. I'm still on the train; I still think he will be All-Star caliber by his 4th/5th season, excluding unforeseen injuries. I still believe.

Some bloke was on this board talking Bane up big time pre draft. Don't remember his name but he hit the nail on the head.

On a side note... nice avatar GSW! Del Griffith/John Candy was the best.

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Bummer that double O and Wiseman have both been plagued with injuries early on. Had Okongwu higher than Wiseman most of the draft process, until I moved Wiseman higher when Okongwu's shot mechanics started worrying me. But can't deny that OO has a great feel for the game.

Wether its Okongwu, Haliburton, Melo, Maxey or whoever is playing well from that class, I just end up back at the same spot... I want Wiseman to just get healthy and on the court so he can have a say in all of this

His time will come.

[Swift21]

Something clearly is not right.

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[hamncheese]

Here's Kerr's full response on Wiseman.

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[clyde21]

Something clearly is not right.

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we already know: Wiseman is soft af.

[Dubs 707]

You got the audacity to call a kid soft lol lame af

[clyde21]

You got the audacity to call a kid soft lol lame af

soft af too

[cpower]

forget about wiseman, we are not playing him this year. We need to make Klay work in our new rotation and there is no room for tossing another rookie into the mix.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Calm down, people. The original surgery didn't fix the problem completely and he had to have a follow up. There's nothing he could do.