Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft

[KevinMcreynolds]

Franz must've just been going through the motions in summer league, cuz he looked absolutely god awful.

[TB]

Franz must've just been going through the motions in summer league, cuz he looked absolutely god awful.

Summer league ain't the place for elite team players. Even Mobley looked worse than a lot of other rookies in summer league. It's also why we probably should have given Jessup a lot more consideration for the 15th spot. Those guys were just doing cardio running back and forth while most the league was jacking up iso shots and avoiding team play.

[clyde21]

Franz must've just been going through the motions in summer league, cuz he looked absolutely god awful.

SL is a terrible environment for non-ball handlers to do anything really, it's not really good for anything other than trying to get players in game shape pretty much.

[GunnerWRX]

Franz must've just been going through the motions in summer league, cuz he looked absolutely god awful.

Summer league ain't the place for elite team players. Even Mobley looked worse than a lot of other rookies in summer league. It's also why we probably should have given Jessup a lot more consideration for the 15th spot. Those guys were just doing cardio running back and forth while most the league was jacking up iso shots and avoiding team play.

Can’t Jessup join Santa Cruz?

[watch1958]

Franz must've just been going through the motions in summer league, cuz he looked absolutely god awful.

Summer league ain't the place for elite team players. Even Mobley looked worse than a lot of other rookies in summer league. It's also why we probably should have given Jessup a lot more consideration for the 15th spot. Those guys were just doing cardio running back and forth while most the league was jacking up iso shots and avoiding team play.

Can’t Jessup join Santa Cruz?

May be a contract issue in Australia. I thought I heard during the Summer that he could only get out of it for a full NBA deal. I may be misremembering though.

[Twinkie defense]

Giddey wasn't even on the board when we drafted Kuminga so who cares. It's Franz that you should be comparing Kuminga against.

They were drafted one pick apart, and Kuminga could have easily been off the board when the Warriors picked at #7. It's a totally reasonable question and comparison.

[TB]

Franz must've just been going through the motions in summer league, cuz he looked absolutely god awful.

Summer league ain't the place for elite team players. Even Mobley looked worse than a lot of other rookies in summer league. It's also why we probably should have given Jessup a lot more consideration for the 15th spot. Those guys were just doing cardio running back and forth while most the league was jacking up iso shots and avoiding team play.

Can’t Jessup join Santa Cruz?

The way his deal worked was it required a 15 man roster spot. If we wanted him to go to Santa Cruz on a 2-way, he would have hit waivers first and another team likely would have picked him up or offered their own 2-way.

Good news is we have control through next offseason as well and can once again offer a 15 man spot if we want to.

[Onus]

Giddey wasn't even on the board when we drafted Kuminga so who cares. It's Franz that you should be comparing Kuminga against.

They were drafted one pick apart, and Kuminga could have easily been off the board when the Warriors picked at #7. It's a totally reasonable question and comparison.

No it's really not. That's like saying we should compare Kuminga to Mobley because they're in the same draft class. Sure you could do it but we never had a chance at him so it's not like there was something that could've been done.

[HiRez]

You have to give JK and EM defined roles, like sit out in the corner and take 3s if left open, attack closeouts from the corners.

Then defend on the other end, help rebound.

You can't give them all kinds of freedom like Wiseman was given to shoot 3s or trying to dribble coast to coast.

I agree with that, I think the freedom Wiseman was afforded really messed up his progress. He had some early shooting success but that led to him going to it a little too often instead of working inside, or giving the ball up and resetting when he didn't have anything good. Whatever the Warriors need from Wiseman, 19 foot jumpers should be really low on the list, to the point of being banned even if he's wide open. Dunk, rebound, patrol the paint without getting caught up in the air on pump fakes, and stay out of the way of your own players, that's it.

Yeah, I agree as well, and was screaming at my television watching Kuminga stand 25 feet from the hoop on every possession, ultimately jacking up 3 3-pointers. Particularly because he was the tallest Warrior on the court at that point.

Granted, he's been out of practices for the past 10 days or so. But if in the practices that he was in, he was given that option to just stand out at the 3-point line and freelance, I see that as a big mistake. IMO, he needs to be working as a screener and cutter, and down on the block, rather than as a ballhandler and shooter. In just that 5 minutes or so of time, I was really disappointed in what I saw.

I was also not happy to see Kuminga chucking from outside. But, he's playing with a stagnant, garbage offense too, if we can get him a few minutes with Steph and Draymond, he'd get a lot more opportunities cutting & driving. If he's willing to do so. Because if he thinks he's going to make it as a 3 point shooter, the dude is probably out of the league in 3 years, he needs to take advantage of his strength and quickness.

[GunnerWRX]

Summer league ain't the place for elite team players. Even Mobley looked worse than a lot of other rookies in summer league. It's also why we probably should have given Jessup a lot more consideration for the 15th spot. Those guys were just doing cardio running back and forth while most the league was jacking up iso shots and avoiding team play.

Can’t Jessup join Santa Cruz?

The way his deal worked was it required a 15 man roster spot. If we wanted him to go to Santa Cruz on a 2-way, he would have hit waivers first and another team likely would have picked him up or offered their own 2-way.

Good news is we have control through next offseason as well and can once again offer a 15 man spot if we want to.

I see. This sucks. I agree that summer league play isn't a good for Jessup's style of play. But then, his play in Aus and SL is not convincing enough for us to use #15 for him.

In a perfect world, his next step should be Santa Cruz which uses the same system, and we can evaluate him over more games against NBA hopefuls, playing in our system.

[marthafokker]

If Kuminga was not there, Mitchell was my choice. Dubbs could really help especially Poole Party turned Poop party.

[and1GS]

If Kuminga was not there, Mitchell was my choice. Dubbs could really help especially Poole Party turned Poop party.

I don't really agree with this take, but Poop Party is hilarious

[Twinkie defense]

If Kuminga was not there, Mitchell was my choice. Dubbs could really help especially Poole Party turned Poop party.

Everyone told me Mitchell was too old and too short.

[lars_rosenberg]

If Kuminga was not there, Mitchell was my choice. Dubbs could really help especially Poole Party turned Poop party.

I don't really agree with this take, but Poop Party is hilarious

So he was really Poole's Gold

[marthafokker]

If Kuminga was not there, Mitchell was my choice. Dubbs could really help especially Poole Party turned Poop party.

Everyone told me Mitchell was too old and too short.

Like Chris Daurte being too old? I think management wanted him bad.

Imagine Dubbs got both Duarte and Mitchell. No diapers needed in training camp. And bench would be so much better now with these help.

[FNQ]

Duarte is the new Brandon Jennings and I'm almost sure its a 1:1 ratio of who pimped Jennings too

[TB]

If Kuminga was not there, Mitchell was my choice. Dubbs could really help especially Poole Party turned Poop party.

Everyone told me Mitchell was too old and too short.

Like Chris Daurte being too old? I think management wanted him bad.

Imagine Dubbs got both Duarte and Mitchell. No diapers needed in training camp. And bench would be so much better now with these help.

Mitchell hasn't even been good though, even as a 23 year old rookie. He's a net negative that has performed bad on offense and his defense, while solid, he's been probably a step below guys like Bev, Lu, Smart, Melton. I still think he will be a solid bench piece, but he really isn't there yet. Especially considering GP2 might be a better version of him at the moment.

Duarte we never had the chance to draft so it really doesn't even matter. But as far as what we are seeing, he's a 3 point chucker (a really good one at this point, but lets see if those 3 point numbers regress). Again, he's a solid player but is what he is. And again again, we never had a chance at drafting him.

Now if we want to make the argument for getting the most NBA ready guys that also have value at their draft position, then the argument is really Franz over Kuminga and then just drafting Moody or Murphy 14. I'm confident Moody ends up better than Murphy. I'm less confident about Kuminga over Franz, but we shall see.

[Twinkie defense]

Everyone told me Mitchell was too old and too short.

Mitchell hasn't even been good though, even as a 23 year old rookie.

Per Cleaning the Glass, Kings' starting lineup with Davion Mitchell replacing Tyrese Haliburton is a whopping +16.4. Not bad for a rook!

[Sleepy51]

Duarte is the new Brandon Jennings and I'm almost sure its a 1:1 ratio of who pimped Jennings too

Nope. I was probably the most wrong person on Jennings on all of RealGM after he dropped a fifty on us but I never had a remote interest in Duarte.

[marthafokker]

If only Poop Party can suck with 42% for 3pters.