Trade Oubre PRONTO.

and1GS · Post #541 » by **and1GS** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:06 pm

I may be the last person on Lonzo island, but man I love watching him play. He would be amazing as a bench facilitator/defender.

chococo · Post #542 » by **chococo** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:35 pm

Oubre for Lonzo is not a trade I would do. And I'm a UCLA Bruins fan where Lonzo played in college. I'm not huge on Oubre, but Warriors can get a better asset than that. My opinion.

xdrta+ · Post #543 » by **xdrta+** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:04 pm

and1GS wrote:I may be the last person on Lonzo island, but man I love watching him play. He would be amazing as a bench facilitator/defender.

Lonzo is shooting himself out of the Warriors price range. He'll get some hefty offers this summer as a RFA.

and1GS · Post #544 » by **and1GS** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:46 pm

chococo wrote:Oubre for Lonzo is not a trade I would do. And I'm a UCLA Bruins fan where Lonzo played in college. I'm not huge on Oubre, but Warriors can get a better asset than that. My opinion.

I think the issue becomes we have to sign Oubre long term if we want to get more than 10 cents on the dollar for him. Or sign and trade in offseason. Those generally don't get much, but we are obviously the team that got a big haul for a S&T Durant when we should have gotten basically nothing - so who knows.

lars_rosenberg · Post #545 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:04 pm

chococo wrote:Oubre for Lonzo is not a trade I would do. And I'm a UCLA Bruins fan where Lonzo played in college. I'm not huge on Oubre, but Warriors can get a better asset than that. My opinion.

Lonzo is the better player by far.
Better shooter, better playmaker, better defender, higher bbiq. He's basically better at everything, but dunking.

Post #546 » by **Sleepy51** » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:33 am

lars_rosenberg wrote:
chococo wrote:Oubre for Lonzo is not a trade I would do. And I'm a UCLA Bruins fan where Lonzo played in college. I'm not huge on Oubre, but Warriors can get a better asset than that. My opinion.

Lonzo is the better player by far.
Better shooter, better playmaker, better defender, higher bbiq. He's basically better at everything, but dunking.

Dunking + Swagger >>>>>> everything

Don't you know science?

Post #547 » by **FNQ** » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:57 am

If we aren't going to trade Oubre for a 2 year deal - or if Lacob has finally reached his spending limit - I have no idea how one could prefer Oubre to Lonzo..

and I dont even like Lonzo that much, but he at least has a BBIQ that he couldnt count on his fingers and toes

However if we can get a better asset.. sure, why not? Hard to argue with that.. I dont think Oubre is a fatally flawed player in the NBA like Wiggins likely is, but he certainly isnt going to be a good player with us, on a good team.

and1GS · Post #548 » by **and1GS** » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:48 am

I think Oubre could be a good player when we're a good team - but the salary:production ratio would be awful. ~19m for a lesser version of what we see now and likely more inconsistency seems likely, and that is of course not palatable.

If we're trading Oubre we should be looking for a guy that we can control (wow that sounds bad) for at least 2 seasons. QO then RFA for Lonzo over the next two years fits the bill. And say what you will about him, but I think he's an incredibly smart player and gifted passer with the size to be an impact defender. Most importantly, he gives us a ton of flexibility. He can slide in next to Klay for a jumbo lineup, he could run point with Curry off ball or he can just lead that second unit with pick and roll offense - which would also allow us to pick up a more diminutive all-offense player to provide some scoring punch off the bench (which are easier to find than a 6'6" scorer or a floor general who can shoot).

His height and IQ just open up so many possibilities for us. I feel he's having too good a season to pry away for Oubre (who they'd immediately need to sign to at least a 3+1 over 15m per) if I'm being honest.

wco81 · Post #549 » by **wco81** » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:27 am

Only possibility is that Pels fall out of playoff contention.

Zo has been playing well but the Pels are 4-6 and lost 2 games going into the all star break.

If the owners and front office are leery about giving him a big extension and they still fail to make the playoffs, they may look to move him.

Or maybe they will package him with someone like Adams because of his contract.

If the Kings fall off as well -- they're 2-8 in the last 10 games -- they may want to get rid of contracts. They most want to get rid of Hield's contract and then probably Bjelica. Maybe move BAgley too, before they have to pay him.

But I think some savvy GM is going to swoop in and get Harrison. Celtics might be a candidate, as they have a trade exception.

Twinkie defense · Post #550 » by **Twinkie defense** » Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:59 am

I don't think Warriors want Lonzo Ball.

Twinkie defense · Post #551 » by **Twinkie defense** » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:04 am

Warriors do not want marginal, ball dominant players. Do you not understand the Warriors offense at all?

whatisacenter · Post #552 » by **whatisacenter** » Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:31 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Warriors do not want marginal, ball dominant players. Do you not understand the Warriors offense at all?

do you think Lonzo is ball dominant?

I think he would be a better fit than Oubre as he could facilitate the offense when Draymond and Curry are off the floor. I also think he would play well with Curry and would be great at getting Wiseman the ball in better spots than most of the players on our team who seem to miss him when he is open and then throw it at his feet in traffic.

wupuck · Post #553 » by **wupuck** » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:43 pm

I do like Oubre and feel he's gotten alot better and has the right mindset for the Dubs. but the team does need a secondary ball handler to come off the bench ala Iggy. Ball is an interesting option but I'm not sure he'd want to come off the bench for the dubs so even if the Dubs traded for him, I don't think theyd' be able to re-sign him while I do believe Oubre would consider staying here as long as he gets paid.

Twinkie defense · Post #554 » by **Twinkie defense** » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:14 am

whatisacenter wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:Warriors do not want marginal, ball dominant players. Do you not understand the Warriors offense at all?

do you think Lonzo is ball dominant?

I think he would be a better fit than Oubre as he could facilitate the offense when Draymond and Curry are off the floor. I also think he would play well with Curry and would be great at getting Wiseman the ball in better spots than most of the players on our team who seem to miss him when he is open and then throw it at his feet in traffic.

Yes, Lonzo is a guy who naturally feels like he needs the ball in his hands, and he's not comfortable playing off the ball. Warriors are not a good fit for traditional point guards - look at who our assist leader is. In the Warriors offense the ball can't stop, everyone needs to touch it and then move it on.

Oubre is a great fit for the Warriors as a long wing player who can switch and guard multiple positions, and pick up his points within the flow of the offense. They'll both be free agents this summer but Oubre is a much better fit for the Warriors in my estimation.

Twinkie defense · Post #555 » by **Twinkie defense** » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:16 am

wupuck wrote:I do like Oubre and feel he's gotten alot better and has the right mindset for the Dubs. but the team does need a secondary ball handler to come off the bench ala Iggy. Ball is an interesting option but I'm not sure he'd want to come off the bench for the dubs so even if the Dubs traded for him, I don't think theyd' be able to re-sign him while I do believe Oubre would consider staying here as long as he gets paid.

Didn't the Warriors already turn down a trade for Lonzo?

killmongrel · Post #556 » by **killmongrel** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:25 am

I have read a few Jazz fans talking about trading Bojan. Would you guys do a Kelly for Bojan trade? Has two more years after this year. Jazz need a wing defender like Kelly.

migya · Post #557 » by **migya** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:33 am

If the Warriors are going to keep the Minnesota draft pick trading Oubre to a tram with cap space for a future 1st rounder would be ideal. It'd create a roster spot for the lottery pick as well as allowing, for now, some of the current bench guys to play. Pascall looks even better and they can trade him in some package for a very good player.

Mylie10 · Post #558 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:09 am

Umm....Twinkie isn’t watching the Pelicans because Lonzo is not ball dominant and they run a motion heavy offense as well. They pass the ball very well.

Lonzo is a spot up shooter a lot, but he’s also a great passer, which works well in their motion offense. And he’s great in transition.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #559 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:43 am

If oubre get traded we will have is clone in bazemore. Those 2 play exactly the same way for better or worse.

Post #560 » by **Sleepy51** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:22 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Umm....Twinkie isn’t watching the Pelicans because Lonzo is not ball dominant and they run a motion heavy offense as well. They pass the ball very well.

Lonzo is a spot up shooter a lot, but he’s also a great passer, which works well in their motion offense. And he’s great in transition.

Lonzo is a great fit as a backup PG here, but he’s expiring just like Oubre and probably won’t re-sign to be a backup. I wish that it fit better but it doesn’t.