Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? HE PULLED A MAGIC TRICK, HES NOT AN NBA PLAYER!!! HES A CHINA LEVEL PLAYER!!!
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Wiggins ceiling is too high to ignore. I’m not saying he can’t work his way out of that group. But even a bad Wiggins is likely more valuable than some of these other cats.
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Crazy-Canuck wrote:EvanZ wrote:TrueFan420 wrote:Moody was always a better shooter than JK. Moody needs to be lights out as that’s what he brings offensively. JK needs to be passable because what he brings is geared toward attacking the basket.
Except Moody is now attacking the basket and hitting middie pull-ups. Basically JK has nothing on Moody this point. Warriors fans need to get over JK.
Jk can jump high.
JK's finishing could be near elite levels. I dont put much stock into preseason but he looks very under control at the rim. Would like to see it with more contact and see what happens there. More attempts should hopefully thin out some of that questionable decision making
As much as I dont want to throw premium coin at him, what JK does for the team is something no one else can do. Moody can, Wiggins can, but you cant lean on them like you could JK for that stuff
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EvanZ wrote:Wiggins ceiling is too high to ignore. I’m not saying he can’t work his way out of that group. But even a bad Wiggins is likely more valuable than some of these other cats.
Good Wiggins was not only good enough to be the second best, if not the second most important, player on a championship team but also so good that the other owners insisted on a rule change in regard to the salary cap etc.
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CDM_Stats wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:EvanZ wrote:
Except Moody is now attacking the basket and hitting middie pull-ups. Basically JK has nothing on Moody this point. Warriors fans need to get over JK.
Jk can jump high.
JK's finishing could be near elite levels. I dont put much stock into preseason but he looks very under control at the rim. Would like to see it with more contact and see what happens there. More attempts should hopefully thin out some of that questionable decision making
As much as I dont want to throw premium coin at him, what JK does for the team is something no one else can do. Moody can, Wiggins can, but you cant lean on them like you could JK for that stuff
I was particularly (pleasantly) surprised to see Kuminga (successfully) take it directly at AD three times last night. That was eye opening.
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Chris Porter's Hair wrote:I was particularly (pleasantly) surprised to see Kuminga (successfully) take it directly at AD three times last night. That was eye opening.
Definitely! That was awesome to see. We're used to seeing him struggle vs. good shot blocking big men. If he can do that consistently to the premium big men, he's going to be in during 4th Q crunch time for sure if not starting.
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DonaldSanders wrote:Chris Porter's Hair wrote:I was particularly (pleasantly) surprised to see Kuminga (successfully) take it directly at AD three times last night. That was eye opening.
Definitely! That was awesome to see. We're used to seeing him struggle vs. good shot blocking big men. If he can do that consistently to the premium big men, he's going to be in during 4th Q crunch time for sure if not starting.
I'd like to see more, because AD is a bit of an anomaly as a big - he guards people like guards. I think JK will have a tougher time with drop coverage that dares him to take floaters or pull up off a quick drive, and that will be his real litmus test of whether or not he can be an elite drive scorer
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CDM_Stats wrote:DonaldSanders wrote:Chris Porter's Hair wrote:I was particularly (pleasantly) surprised to see Kuminga (successfully) take it directly at AD three times last night. That was eye opening.
Definitely! That was awesome to see. We're used to seeing him struggle vs. good shot blocking big men. If he can do that consistently to the premium big men, he's going to be in during 4th Q crunch time for sure if not starting.
I'd like to see more, because AD is a bit of an anomaly as a big - he guards people like guards. I think JK will have a tougher time with drop coverage that dares him to take floaters or pull up off a quick drive, and that will be his real litmus test of whether or not he can be an elite drive scorer
I'm not sure JK would've been able to do that against AD last year so was very impressive to see him do that.
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1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
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2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
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I would just love to see Moody, Wiggins and JK on the floor together with Draymond and Steph. The cutting could be special. I mean if you have Moody able to attack the 4th or 5th best defender on the opposing unit with the other guys scared **** about Steph shooting, JK cutting, and Wiggins doing whatever he does, that's a good place to be.
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EvanZ wrote:I would just love to see Moody, Wiggins and JK on the floor together with Draymond and Steph. The cutting could be special. I mean if you have Moody able to attack the 4th or 5th best defender on the opposing unit with the other guys scared **** about Steph shooting, JK cutting, and Wiggins doing whatever he does, that's a good place to be.
If I recall correctly those 5 did see time together on the floor last year. The result wasn't particularly notable. But maybe JK and MM improving along with Wiggins having his head on straight might produce a better result this time around.
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CDM_Stats wrote:I'd like to see more, because AD is a bit of an anomaly as a big - he guards people like guards. I think JK will have a tougher time with drop coverage that dares him to take floaters or pull up off a quick drive, and that will be his real litmus test of whether or not he can be an elite drive scorer
Agreed. I didn't see him do that against AD in the past, but he's just one guy amongst a bunch of tall, talented shot blockers the league has that we've seen him struggle against. But it was definitely an encouraging sign.
EvanZ wrote:I would just love to see Moody, Wiggins and JK on the floor together with Draymond and Steph. The cutting could be special. I mean if you have Moody able to attack the 4th or 5th best defender on the opposing unit with the other guys scared **** about Steph shooting, JK cutting, and Wiggins doing whatever he does, that's a good place to be.
I think there is a good chance we see that but more likely Melton in for Moody in crunch time. I think we'll end up going small a lot to close games. I'd be really excited to see Moses included in a small group like that though, I think he could shine.
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WarriorGM wrote:EvanZ wrote:I would just love to see Moody, Wiggins and JK on the floor together with Draymond and Steph. The cutting could be special. I mean if you have Moody able to attack the 4th or 5th best defender on the opposing unit with the other guys scared **** about Steph shooting, JK cutting, and Wiggins doing whatever he does, that's a good place to be.
If I recall correctly those 5 did see time together on the floor last year. The result wasn't particularly notable. But maybe JK and MM improving along with Wiggins having his head on straight might produce a better result this time around.
Those 5 have played 1 total minute of basketball together in the 3 years they have been teammates. Truly insane considering that's the 3 best players and 2 lotto picks that are supposed to extend the dynasty.
The 4 of Steph, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray played a ton of minutes successfully with any 5th player... a combo guard like Podz, a non defensive shooter like Klay, a non defensive stretch big like Saric.... but no, never gave Moody a go in that spot.
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TB wrote:WarriorGM wrote:EvanZ wrote:I would just love to see Moody, Wiggins and JK on the floor together with Draymond and Steph. The cutting could be special. I mean if you have Moody able to attack the 4th or 5th best defender on the opposing unit with the other guys scared **** about Steph shooting, JK cutting, and Wiggins doing whatever he does, that's a good place to be.
If I recall correctly those 5 did see time together on the floor last year. The result wasn't particularly notable. But maybe JK and MM improving along with Wiggins having his head on straight might produce a better result this time around.
Those 5 have played 1 total minute of basketball together in the 3 years they have been teammates. Truly insane considering that's the 3 best players and 2 lotto picks that are supposed to extend the dynasty.
The 4 of Steph, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray played a ton of minutes successfully with any 5th player... a combo guard like Podz, a non defensive shooter like Klay, a non defensive stretch big like Saric.... but no, never gave Moody a go in that spot.
This is especially damning when you consider Kuminga at 4 and Dray at 5 have been by far our most successful frontcourt last year. It's such an obvious lineup yet we didn't try it a single time over 82 games.
Kerr is just an ass coach and anyone who defends him at this point is an idiot
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TB wrote:WarriorGM wrote:EvanZ wrote:I would just love to see Moody, Wiggins and JK on the floor together with Draymond and Steph. The cutting could be special. I mean if you have Moody able to attack the 4th or 5th best defender on the opposing unit with the other guys scared **** about Steph shooting, JK cutting, and Wiggins doing whatever he does, that's a good place to be.
If I recall correctly those 5 did see time together on the floor last year. The result wasn't particularly notable. But maybe JK and MM improving along with Wiggins having his head on straight might produce a better result this time around.
Those 5 have played 1 total minute of basketball together in the 3 years they have been teammates. Truly insane considering that's the 3 best players and 2 lotto picks that are supposed to extend the dynasty.
The 4 of Steph, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray played a ton of minutes successfully with any 5th player... a combo guard like Podz, a non defensive shooter like Klay, a non defensive stretch big like Saric.... but no, never gave Moody a go in that spot.
Am I crazy or did they just do it with Lindy Freakin Waters the THIRD??
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EvanZ wrote:TB wrote:WarriorGM wrote:
If I recall correctly those 5 did see time together on the floor last year. The result wasn't particularly notable. But maybe JK and MM improving along with Wiggins having his head on straight might produce a better result this time around.
Those 5 have played 1 total minute of basketball together in the 3 years they have been teammates. Truly insane considering that's the 3 best players and 2 lotto picks that are supposed to extend the dynasty.
The 4 of Steph, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray played a ton of minutes successfully with any 5th player... a combo guard like Podz, a non defensive shooter like Klay, a non defensive stretch big like Saric.... but no, never gave Moody a go in that spot.
Am I crazy or did they just do it with Lindy Freakin Waters the THIRD??![]()
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lol they might have.
"We can replace Klay in the aggregate with Buddy and Lindy"
"what about Moody....."
"he is more versatile like a combo of Wiggins and GP2, therefor he needs to back them up"
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Sadly Moses will not be in the rotation to start the season. Kerr says 10 guys. I highly doubt he starts with GPII and Looney on the bench this season.
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EvanZ wrote:Sadly Moses will not be in the rotation to start the season. Kerr says 10 guys. I highly doubt he starts with GPII and Looney on the bench this season.
Going by the open scrimmage, moody was in the 2nd unit, but could be because podz was on the 3rd unit.
Which is weird because we only carry 2 actual wings (wiggins and moody).
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I think the press should stop asking Kerr about Moses. Just to see what he says and how often he mentions him.
For two or three weeks. For fun.
For two or three weeks. For fun.
This movie is like the Rocky Horror Picture Show where everyone knows all the lines.
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watch1958 wrote:I think the press should stop asking Kerr about Moses. Just to see what he says and how often he mentions him.
For two or three weeks. For fun.
That’s like not asking your wife for sex for 2 or 3 weeks to see if she will make the first move.
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Moody is a championship quality 8th man, not a starter.
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TB wrote:WarriorGM wrote:EvanZ wrote:I would just love to see Moody, Wiggins and JK on the floor together with Draymond and Steph. The cutting could be special. I mean if you have Moody able to attack the 4th or 5th best defender on the opposing unit with the other guys scared **** about Steph shooting, JK cutting, and Wiggins doing whatever he does, that's a good place to be.
If I recall correctly those 5 did see time together on the floor last year. The result wasn't particularly notable. But maybe JK and MM improving along with Wiggins having his head on straight might produce a better result this time around.
Those 5 have played 1 total minute of basketball together in the 3 years they have been teammates. Truly insane considering that's the 3 best players and 2 lotto picks that are supposed to extend the dynasty.
The 4 of Steph, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray played a ton of minutes successfully with any 5th player... a combo guard like Podz, a non defensive shooter like Klay, a non defensive stretch big like Saric.... but no, never gave Moody a go in that spot.
I must have been thinking of another lineup. Thanks for the enlightening correction.
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Moody is a championship quality 8th man, not a starter.
The Warriors won a championship with a second year Harrison Barnes at around the same age as Moody as a starter. Can Moses Moody be a 2015 Harrison Barnes level player or better? That is the question. If he can, then that gives a big boost to the possibility of a 2015 or 2022 like championship run.
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