5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch)

[Zvaart]

Zubac was too much for us, in addition to kawhi and harden. we have no answer against teams with big centers, see the last lakers series against AD. Jimmy was constantly turning around and passing when zubac was in front of him.

as the ladies are saying, size matters.

[superunknown]

we got steph with 36 and butler with 30 and still lost.
this is as bad as it gets. if this team cannot find a way to win a game when your 2 best players combine for 66 points, then it's going nowhere. the rest of the guys need to have an impact on the game somehow, at least on one end of the ball, otherwise it's simply impossible to win.
same the CS. it's getting ridiculous how lue always manages to put kerr in the bag as for late. at some point you gotta do something about it, cannot keep being outcoached and losing to the same team/coach time and time again.
this looked bad, not just for playoffs implications, but also because of the way the L materialized. couldn't even slow down an heavy ISO offense (neither harden or leonard, and that's bad because in the playoffs you'll have to do it) and on the other end of the ball couldn't expose neither harden or zubac. sometimes you just have to relentlessy hunt for and attack missmatches
/weak links even if this means changing the way you run your offense. if someone is cooking you and cannot stop him, then you need to attack him every possession and try to tire him down, that's the only way you can slow him down. this CS doesn't seem to have a plan B or some in game djustments to draw from. and that's scary.

[SpreeS]

I dont trust Green at all...These first two plays ended our seasons, yesterday missed layup could finish on the same path.

2021 PI with MEM 00:01 MISS Green 11' Floating Jump Shot
2023 PO with LAL (1-2) 00:09 Green Bad Pass Turnover
2025 RS With LAC 00:27 MISS Green 3' Cutting Layup Shot

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[billinder33]

Not a big Kuminga guy, but he should have gotten his regular minutes, and Butler some rest. Butler looked gassed at the end of the game. JK is a better frontcourt player and bench spark than Peyton, who was mostly ineffective on both ends of the court. To be completely frozen out in this kind of game makes no sense at all.

If this is the trust the staff has in Kuminga, then he should have been traded at the DL for the best 3&D available. I don't understand why he wasn't moved sometime in the last 2 years.

[SpreeS]

Not a big Kuminga guy, but he should have gotten his regular minutes, and Butler some rest. Butler looked gassed at the end of the game. JK is a better frontcourt player and bench spark than Peyton, who was mostly ineffective on both ends of the court. To be completely frozen out in this kind of game makes no sense at all.

If this is the trust the staff has in Kuminga, then he should have been traded at the DL for the best 3&D available. I don't understand why he wasn't moved sometime in the last 2 years.

Plus Butler got injured. This was no brainer

[Onus]

If this is the trust the staff has in Kuminga, then he should have been traded at the DL for the best 3&D available. I don't understand why he wasn't moved sometime in the last 2 years.

Because Lacob wants a 2nd timeline and he think JK gives him a 2nd timeline.

[whatisacenter]

Memphis rested all their starters yesterday while Warriors played all the old heads 38+ minutes....should be an interesting game tomorrow.

Also, the Warriors 3pt shooters outside of Curry are Draymond, Podz and Hield which is not very comforting.

[Onus]

Memphis rested all their starters yesterday while Warriors played all the old heads 38+ minutes....should be an interesting game tomorrow.

Also, the Warriors 3pt shooters outside of Curry are Draymond, Podz and Hield which is not very comforting.

Also Post, but yea we are low on shooters. We are low on playable bigs. We don't have any interior presence. We don't have any wing shooters.

I do wonder who the grizzlies will have chase Steph around now that wells is out.

[whatisacenter]

Memphis rested all their starters yesterday while Warriors played all the old heads 38+ minutes....should be an interesting game tomorrow.

Also, the Warriors 3pt shooters outside of Curry are Draymond, Podz and Hield which is not very comforting.

Also Post, but yea we are low on shooters. We are low on playable bigs. We don't have any interior presence. We don't have any wing shooters.

I do wonder who the grizzlies will have chase Steph around now that wells is out.

That injury to Wells sucked for them...my guess is they put Vince Williams JR.on Steph.

Last time they played the Grizz the Dubs coaching staff put the ball in Curry's hands more so Wells couldn't face guard him off ball all game long and it worked well.

[AirP.]

If this is the trust the staff has in Kuminga, then he should have been traded at the DL for the best 3&D available. I don't understand why he wasn't moved sometime in the last 2 years.

Because Lacob wants a 2nd timeline and he think JK gives him a 2nd timeline.

There shouldn't ever be 2 timelines, it should always be basically the same thing unless you're rebuilding. Got a good potential young scorer on a good team, make him your scoring 6th man until he's ready.

Having 2 timelines means you're really splitting up the roster and not maximizing winning nor development. Just play to win each season and always try to develop 2-3 players during that time too. It should be a continuous build/transformation of a team.

[wco81]

Not a big Kuminga guy, but he should have gotten his regular minutes, and Butler some rest. Butler looked gassed at the end of the game. JK is a better frontcourt player and bench spark than Peyton, who was mostly ineffective on both ends of the court. To be completely frozen out in this kind of game makes no sense at all.

If this is the trust the staff has in Kuminga, then he should have been traded at the DL for the best 3&D available. I don't understand why he wasn't moved sometime in the last 2 years.

Plus Butler got injured. This was no brainer

And he played 48 minutes and has to turn around in two days to play Memphis.

[AirP.]

Not a big Kuminga guy, but he should have gotten his regular minutes, and Butler some rest. Butler looked gassed at the end of the game. JK is a better frontcourt player and bench spark than Peyton, who was mostly ineffective on both ends of the court. To be completely frozen out in this kind of game makes no sense at all.

If this is the trust the staff has in Kuminga, then he should have been traded at the DL for the best 3&D available. I don't understand why he wasn't moved sometime in the last 2 years.

Plus Butler got injured. This was no brainer

And he played 48 minutes and has to turn around in two days to play Memphis.

GS was riding with Curry as the scorer late in the game (Butler really didn't really touch the ball much for the last 8 minutes of the 4th quarter), for whatever reason Kuminga thinks he's the top option when on the court even with Curry out there. To me, this is probably Kerr's biggest issue with Kuminga. Too often Kuminga gets the ball and it's Kuminga time, so Curry trying to run around getting himself open is a waste of energy most of the time. Hield also has this issue from time to time but GS needs his spacing.

To me, the #1 way for Kuminga to have gotten court time early in his career would have been finding a way to play with and complement Curry which I think there was ample opportunity to do that vs go with the mindset that I'm the scorer.

[Onus]

Memphis rested all their starters yesterday while Warriors played all the old heads 38+ minutes....should be an interesting game tomorrow.

Also, the Warriors 3pt shooters outside of Curry are Draymond, Podz and Hield which is not very comforting.

Also Post, but yea we are low on shooters. We are low on playable bigs. We don't have any interior presence. We don't have any wing shooters.

I do wonder who the grizzlies will have chase Steph around now that wells is out.

That injury to Wells sucked for them...my guess is they put Vince Williams JR.on Steph.

Last time they played the Grizz the Dubs coaching staff put the ball in Curry's hands more so Wells couldn't face guard him off ball all game long and it worked well.

Yea if we can't beat memphis then it's time to panic. But losing to the clippers, I'm not too worried about it. The clippers have been hot.

[Onus]

If this is the trust the staff has in Kuminga, then he should have been traded at the DL for the best 3&D available. I don't understand why he wasn't moved sometime in the last 2 years.

Because Lacob wants a 2nd timeline and he think JK gives him a 2nd timeline.

There shouldn't ever be 2 timelines, it should always be basically the same thing unless you're rebuilding. Got a good potential young scorer on a good team, make him your scoring 6th man until he's ready.

Having 2 timelines means you're really splitting up the roster and not maximizing winning nor development. Just play to win each season and always try to develop 2-3 players during that time too. It should be a continuous build/transformation of a team.

Yea it's one of the reasons to hate this ownership. But they have paid to keep the team competitive so you have to take the good with the bad and they've been good outside of this.

[AirP.]

Also Post, but yea we are low on shooters. We are low on playable bigs. We don't have any interior presence. We don't have any wing shooters.

I do wonder who the grizzlies will have chase Steph around now that wells is out.

That injury to Wells sucked for them...my guess is they put Vince Williams JR.on Steph.

Last time they played the Grizz the Dubs coaching staff put the ball in Curry's hands more so Wells couldn't face guard him off ball all game long and it worked well.

Yea if we can't beat memphis then it's time to panic. But losing to the clippers, I'm not too worried about it. The clippers have been hot.

If Butler's slowed down with an injury, it's possible GS won't be as good as they should be until that possible game Friday or later in the 1st round.

LAC played a really good game, the issue is so did GS but there were a lot of mental screwups on TOs which is why I said GS lost the game vs LAC winning the game, maybe playing through Butler near the end of games is the best way to go with Curry being off ball, Butler will do what he needs to, to get the ball to him.

[Onus]

Plus Butler got injured. This was no brainer

And he played 48 minutes and has to turn around in two days to play Memphis.

GS was riding with Curry as the scorer late in the game (Butler really didn't really touch the ball much for the last 8 minutes of the 4th quarter), for whatever reason Kuminga thinks he's the top option when on the court even with Curry out there. To me, this is probably Kerr's biggest issue with Kuminga. Too often Kuminga gets the ball and it's Kuminga time, so Curry trying to run around getting himself open is a waste of energy most of the time. Hield also has this issue from time to time but GS needs his spacing.

To me, the #1 way for Kuminga to have gotten court time early in his career would have been finding a way to play with and complement Curry which I think there was ample opportunity to do that vs go with the mindset that I'm the scorer.

JK actually plays with Curry decently. He obviously looks for his shot a lot but we've been desperately looking for scoring all year outside of Steph that he was always looking to score this year (plus the contract extension he was seeking).But there are certain actions that JK has started to see with Steph that he does well to look for Steph. There was about 5 min that JK could've played against the Clippers. The 5 minutes that Jimmy sat.

[AirP.]

And he played 48 minutes and has to turn around in two days to play Memphis.

GS was riding with Curry as the scorer late in the game (Butler really didn't really touch the ball much for the last 8 minutes of the 4th quarter), for whatever reason Kuminga thinks he's the top option when on the court even with Curry out there. To me, this is probably Kerr's biggest issue with Kuminga. Too often Kuminga gets the ball and it's Kuminga time, so Curry trying to run around getting himself open is a waste of energy most of the time. Hield also has this issue from time to time but GS needs his spacing.

To me, the #1 way for Kuminga to have gotten court time early in his career would have been finding a way to play with and complement Curry which I think there was ample opportunity to do that vs go with the mindset that I'm the scorer.

JK actually plays with Curry decently. He obviously looks for his shot a lot but we've been desperately looking for scoring all year outside of Steph that he was always looking to score this year (plus the contract extension he was seeking).But there are certain actions that JK has started to see with Steph that he does well to look for Steph. There was about 5 min that JK could've played against the Clippers. The 5 minutes that Jimmy sat.

I don't know, is Kuminga going to do what's best for the team or what's best for Kuminga at this point since he may be trying to showcase his skills to other teams for RFA? I've been going back in games isolating a lot of his possessions and he just doesn't care who else is on the court with him even when he's above the key with the ball. If he'd just quit trying to create his own shots, he'd still score well off the ball filling lanes of just making himself available for passes. Get rid of the tunnel vision and you have a good player, with the tunnel vision I understand why he wouldn't play, it's up to Kuminga.

Kuminga is just a guy who looks like he grew up able to just physically and athletically beat defenders and hasn't really left that mentality, even with 4 years in the NBA.

It is odd that the question of can Butler become a scorer in the playoffs was basically answered in the Clipper's game and instead of talking about that it's all about talking about a rotation player off the bench who got a DNP.

[Upperclass]

Warriors tanked v the Spurs to avoid the 4/5 matchup & R2 OKC and vs the Clippers to avoid the Lakers R1. Houston cant score and the Lakers in R2 is far different from the Lakers with one series to go before the Finals.

Dubs will be in the chip imo. Probably vs the Knicks

[KevinMcreynolds]

I ain’t watching no play-in, eff that sh**

[thunderdunk]

So many times yesterday the Dubs allowed either a layup, or a drive and dish to Zubac for a dunk. They have no answer for such a simple play?
BTW - Zubac outrebounded the entire Dubs starting five.

Dubs desperately need a Bogut type of 5. They needed one at the deadline, but didn't/couldn't get it done. Hopefully they trade JK and/or some package of players in the off season for a capable big.

PS: Here's hoping that Butler is healthy for the next couple games. Otherwise, they're done.