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What do you guys think of taking a run at Zion? looks like the Pels are blowing it up
immense amount of baggage and red flags with Zion, however the Pels organization is an utter dumpster fire. he played 70 games last year too so he's capable of staying healthy. if you find a way to unlock Zion the way we did for Wiggins, he's a top 5 player
something like kuminga/podz/gp2/shroeder at the deadline for Zion works. if he's healthy and motivated, steph / hield / wiggins / zion / draymond is an absolutely filthy lineup
immense amount of baggage and red flags with Zion, however the Pels organization is an utter dumpster fire. he played 70 games last year too so he's capable of staying healthy. if you find a way to unlock Zion the way we did for Wiggins, he's a top 5 player
something like kuminga/podz/gp2/shroeder at the deadline for Zion works. if he's healthy and motivated, steph / hield / wiggins / zion / draymond is an absolutely filthy lineup
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Jester_ wrote:What do you guys think of taking a run at Zion? looks like the Pels are blowing it up
immense amount of baggage and red flags with Zion, however the Pels organization is an utter dumpster fire. he played 70 games last year too so he's capable of staying healthy. if you find a way to unlock Zion the way we did for Wiggins, he's a top 5 player
more affordable than someone like Jimmy as well.
many red flags injury wise and stay-in-shape wise, ofc if the pels make him available you should at least going to look at the asking price, but it would likely be hefty. more than butler.
I'd target trey murphy from the pels, but as far as it is reported he's off the trade market.
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superunknown wrote:Jester_ wrote:What do you guys think of taking a run at Zion? looks like the Pels are blowing it up
immense amount of baggage and red flags with Zion, however the Pels organization is an utter dumpster fire. he played 70 games last year too so he's capable of staying healthy. if you find a way to unlock Zion the way we did for Wiggins, he's a top 5 player
more affordable than someone like Jimmy as well.
many red flags injury wise and stay-in-shape wise, ofc if the pels make him available you should at least going to look at the asking price, but it would likely be hefty. more than butler.
agree but I dunno if that's true... there's so many flags around him Pels fans at least seem to think a first and some expirings/young guys get it done. he's also a good bit cheaper than Butler so we wouldn't necessarily need wiggins in the deal
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Jester_ wrote:superunknown wrote:Jester_ wrote:What do you guys think of taking a run at Zion? looks like the Pels are blowing it up
immense amount of baggage and red flags with Zion, however the Pels organization is an utter dumpster fire. he played 70 games last year too so he's capable of staying healthy. if you find a way to unlock Zion the way we did for Wiggins, he's a top 5 player
more affordable than someone like Jimmy as well.
many red flags injury wise and stay-in-shape wise, ofc if the pels make him available you should at least going to look at the asking price, but it would likely be hefty. more than butler.
agree but I dunno if that's true... there's so many flags around him Pels fans at least seem to think a first and some expirings/young guys get it done. he's also a good bit cheaper than Butler so we wouldn't necessarily need wiggins in the deal
I'd do it. New Orleans is a terrible location for someone struggling with weight issues.
It'll be really hard to do though without Wiggins. Would probably need to include Schroeder.
DS/MM/KA/JK/KL for ZW/JRE/AR/JG
Curry/Podz
Hield/Green/Reeves
Wiggins/Waters/GP
Dray/JRE/Gui
Zion/TJD
Need a backup pg again but it's interesting enough. Maybe sign DSJ or Fultz to be backup pg.
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Onus wrote:Jester_ wrote:superunknown wrote:
many red flags injury wise and stay-in-shape wise, ofc if the pels make him available you should at least going to look at the asking price, but it would likely be hefty. more than butler.
agree but I dunno if that's true... there's so many flags around him Pels fans at least seem to think a first and some expirings/young guys get it done. he's also a good bit cheaper than Butler so we wouldn't necessarily need wiggins in the deal
I'd do it. New Orleans is a terrible location for someone struggling with weight issues.
It'll be really hard to do though without Wiggins. Would probably need to include Schroeder.
DS/MM/KA/JK/KL for ZW/JRE/AR/JG
Curry/Podz
Hield/Green/Reeves
Wiggins/Waters/GP
Dray/JRE/Gui
Zion/TJD
Need a backup pg again but it's interesting enough. Maybe sign DSJ or Fultz to be backup pg.
would definitely need DS in the deal, but well worth it IMO. motivated zion with wiggins, dray, steph and hield is absolutely nasty
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Onus wrote:It'll be really hard to do though without Wiggins. Would probably need to include Schroeder.
DS/MM/KA/JK/KL for ZW/JRE/AR/JG
You're right that it's really hard to do without Wiggins. Also hard to include Moody. This one doesn't work because the extra $5M from Moody's poison pill puts NO over the Apron and they're hard-capped at the 1st Apron.
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Healthy Zion will probably never exist...
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xdrta+ wrote:Onus wrote:It'll be really hard to do though without Wiggins. Would probably need to include Schroeder.
DS/MM/KA/JK/KL for ZW/JRE/AR/JG
You're right that it's really hard to do without Wiggins. Also hard to include Moody. This one doesn't work because the extra $5M from Moody's poison pill puts NO over the Apron and they're hard-capped at the 1st Apron.
If the pels are willing to do this for no 1sts I'd give up a 1st so Det will take moody to get the deal done.
Not sure how many 1sts I'd be willing to part with to get this deal done. We'd be short on actual wings and pgs. But a lineup of Curry, Buddy, Wiggins, Dray, Zion is interesting. But we're really banking on zion being healthy, which hasn't happened.
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vvoland wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Go get Myles Turner and start polishing the trophy case.
Don’t know why some think the Pacers are dealing him. If this disappointing season motivates the notoriously thrifty Pacers to make a move, they’ll likely go for moves like dealing some of their wing players or getting out of that Siakam deal before dangling Turner
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NW wrote:vvoland wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Go get Myles Turner and start polishing the trophy case.
Don’t know why some think the Pacers are dealing him. If this disappointing season motivates the notoriously thrifty Pacers to make a move, they’ll likely go for moves like dealing some of their wing players or getting out of that Siakam deal before dangling Turner
Because he's cheap, hasn't signed an extension, and they may want to blow it up versus just pivot. If he has indicated to them he wants to leavy Indianapolis and, let's be honest, what young millionaire wouldn't want to, they may just trade him.
I'm not even saying it's realistic, I just think he's a great fit, contract is small enough to work a trade and we may have the young guys and picks necessary to entice the pacers.
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vvoland wrote:NW wrote:vvoland wrote:
Go get Myles Turner and start polishing the trophy case.
Don’t know why some think the Pacers are dealing him. If this disappointing season motivates the notoriously thrifty Pacers to make a move, they’ll likely go for moves like dealing some of their wing players or getting out of that Siakam deal before dangling Turner
Because he's cheap, hasn't signed an extension, and they may want to blow it up versus just pivot. If he has indicated to them he wants to leavy Indianapolis and, let's be honest, what young millionaire wouldn't want to, they may just trade him.
I'm not even saying it's realistic, I just think he's a great fit, contract is small enough to work a trade and we may have the young guys and picks necessary to entice the pacers.
JK Slo-Mo & Podz is a close salary match. And maybe some draft capital. Just dreaming away on a slow day.
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vvoland wrote:NW wrote:vvoland wrote:
Go get Myles Turner and start polishing the trophy case.
Don’t know why some think the Pacers are dealing him. If this disappointing season motivates the notoriously thrifty Pacers to make a move, they’ll likely go for moves like dealing some of their wing players or getting out of that Siakam deal before dangling Turner
Because he's cheap, hasn't signed an extension, and they may want to blow it up versus just pivot. If he has indicated to them he wants to leavy Indianapolis and, let's be honest, what young millionaire wouldn't want to, they may just trade him.
I'm not even saying it's realistic, I just think he's a great fit, contract is small enough to work a trade and we may have the young guys and picks necessary to entice the pacers.
They got too much young talent to blow it up and there's one team looking to have cap room, so where's he going? Don't sleep on Indianapolis btw.
Don't doubt the Dubs could make a reasonable offer, but the Packers have no reason to deal him and can't replace him.
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NW wrote:vvoland wrote:NW wrote:
Don’t know why some think the Pacers are dealing him. If this disappointing season motivates the notoriously thrifty Pacers to make a move, they’ll likely go for moves like dealing some of their wing players or getting out of that Siakam deal before dangling Turner
Because he's cheap, hasn't signed an extension, and they may want to blow it up versus just pivot. If he has indicated to them he wants to leavy Indianapolis and, let's be honest, what young millionaire wouldn't want to, they may just trade him.
I'm not even saying it's realistic, I just think he's a great fit, contract is small enough to work a trade and we may have the young guys and picks necessary to entice the pacers.
They got too much young talent to blow it up and there's one team looking to have cap room, so where's he going? Don't sleep on Indianapolis btw.
Don't doubt the Dubs could make a reasonable offer, but the Packers have no reason to deal him and can't replace him.
Oh I'll sleep like rip van winkle on most midwestern cities, particularly during the NBA season Nov - Apr, when the difference between the midwest and siberia is virtually invisible.
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there’s a small additional incentive for some of the action to happen on Sunday and Monday rather than drag on until closer to the trade deadline. (NBA front offices typically act like a more procrastinating version of the worst Christmas shopper you know, pushing any deal decision off to the last possible instant before rushing into a Circle K at 11:59 p.m. on Dec. 24 with list in hand.) A little-known provision in this year’s collective bargaining agreement changes the normal “two-month” rule for trade aggregation to allow players who were traded on or before Dec. 16 to be aggregated again in the final two days preceding the Feb. 6 trade deadline...
Normally, the Warriors might have waited to get more complete answers on what the out-for-the-season Melton’s expiring deal could net them in a hunt for bigger fish, as they couldn’t have used Schröder in a similar trade. The Warriors almost certainly would need to aggregate three or four contracts for salary matching in any swap for a star-caliber player, which under the old rules they couldn’t have done with Schröder as one of the contracts. Now they can, so it’s no harm for them to snag a healthy guard now and figure out the blockbuster trades later.
The Nets also had some incentive to act sooner rather than later, although of a different sort. Quite simply, Schröder was a little too effective for the Nets’ needs, as Brooklyn is banking on a high lottery pick in this June’s loaded draft to reverse a down-to-the-studs rebuild. Maybe a 10-15 record as of Sunday morning doesn’t sound that impressive to you, but in the dystopia known as the Eastern Conference, it had them a half-game out of the No. 8 seed. Can you imagine doing all this and then picking 15th?!?!?
Dennis Schröder trade, weird Paul Reed waiver and is Marquette’s Kam Jones a lottery pick?
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If Pels wanted to reset with Kuminga and the Warriors aren't banking on extending him I would flip him for Zion... big red flags Zion's weight and injury history but his contract is non-guaranteed...
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Onus wrote:Jester_ wrote:superunknown wrote:
many red flags injury wise and stay-in-shape wise, ofc if the pels make him available you should at least going to look at the asking price, but it would likely be hefty. more than butler.
agree but I dunno if that's true... there's so many flags around him Pels fans at least seem to think a first and some expirings/young guys get it done. he's also a good bit cheaper than Butler so we wouldn't necessarily need wiggins in the deal
I'd do it. New Orleans is a terrible location for someone struggling with weight issues.
It'll be really hard to do though without Wiggins. Would probably need to include Schroeder.
DS/MM/KA/JK/KL for ZW/JRE/AR/JG
Curry/Podz
Hield/Green/Reeves
Wiggins/Waters/GP
Dray/JRE/Gui
Zion/TJD
Need a backup pg again but it's interesting enough. Maybe sign DSJ or Fultz to be backup pg.
I trade everyone not named Dray Curry and Wiggins for Zion. Granted huge huge gamble but if we're not sure on paying Kuminga then makes sense to trade him.
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The time to get Turner was years ago when Wiseman was on the team. Indiana was back and forth on the idea of extending Turner or trading him for Wiseman who was on a rookie deal. In hindsight what a heist that would've been. Though I do have more faith in Indiana developing Wiseman than we had, using him in drop coverage on defense and a trailer 3 point shooter on offense like Indiana has used Turner.
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