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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#661 » by Impuniti » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:57 am

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GQ Hot Dog wrote:Is MDJ not allowed to trade future picks/swaps for another scorer to pair with Curry? We don't know what Lacob's policy is regarding future picks/swaps but I wonder how many would we have to include to make a Wiggins for Siakam deal work?


You must really have faith in klay taking wiggs' defensive role of poa defender and scrambler.

Nope. I am intrigued with the idea of a major overhaul structured around Wiggins and picks to Toronto for Siakam.

There are all sorts of additions that could be made including Klay and CP3 on our end and Trent, OG, Boucher and OPJ on their end. All those additions would require more picks from our end. It depends on how big a commitment Lacob wants to make.

This is in anticipation of Moody and Kuminga continuing to take steps and earn minutes.

In its most basic form, the starting five would be some combination of Curry + Moody/Kuminga/Siakam/Draymond/Looney and maybe GP2.

If Lacob sells the farm to get OG and/or Trent included, things get really interesting.

And who is going to be the POA defender for this team moving forward then? It's one of the biggest issues for the whole team and you want to trade the only player who is capable at a high level. Siakam isn't defending Shai, or Murray.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#662 » by GQ Hot Dog » Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:29 am

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You must really have faith in klay taking wiggs' defensive role of poa defender and scrambler.

Nope. I am intrigued with the idea of a major overhaul structured around Wiggins and picks to Toronto for Siakam.

There are all sorts of additions that could be made including Klay and CP3 on our end and Trent, OG, Boucher and OPJ on their end. All those additions would require more picks from our end. It depends on how big a commitment Lacob wants to make.

This is in anticipation of Moody and Kuminga continuing to take steps and earn minutes.

In its most basic form, the starting five would be some combination of Curry + Moody/Kuminga/Siakam/Draymond/Looney and maybe GP2.

If Lacob sells the farm to get OG and/or Trent included, things get really interesting.

And who is going to be the POA defender for this team moving forward then? It's one of the biggest issues for the whole team and you want to trade the only player who is capable at a high level. Siakam isn't defending Shai, or Murray.

First of all, the trade is predicated on Ujiri wanting Wiggs. Second, it's predicated on Moody/Kuminga being able to step into that role or having OG included to step into that role.

I wouldn't want to make a lateral swap of Wiggs for OG but the idea is to get Siakam since we don't have another 20ppg scorer on the roster behind Steph. If neither Moody or Kuminga can step into Wiggs role then OG would have to be included and then it's probably going to be more costly than makes sense.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#663 » by EvanZ » Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:12 pm

The truth is whether Klay starts or goes to the bench we need him ot come around. Moody can get more minutes, but we really need much more out of Klay's ceiling to be a contender. So this whole conversation pitting them against each other is a Mood...moot point.

I made a thread in pre-season saying we need Moody and Kuminga to be the 7th and 8th best players on this team. And I feel that is still largely true. In the best version of this team that is what they are.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#664 » by Warriorfan » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:00 pm

Just to put some facts into this. While the D may never be the same due to age/injury 2 more made 3s to be at career averages
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#665 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:02 am

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Is the leash shortening?
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#666 » by Dubs 707 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:21 am

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Is the leash shortening?


I think it's more so of reminding him who he is. He's a deadly catch and shoot sniper he's not Kobe. Play within yourself so you can have the energy to try and not look lost on defense. You're not a young player anymore, it's time to transition to the Horford type of mindset.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#667 » by HiRez » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:34 am

It's pretty hard to imagine them sidelining or trading a guy who is probably going to have a bronze statue in front of Chase Center some day.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#668 » by hamncheese » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:36 am

HiRez wrote:It's pretty hard to imagine them sidelining or trading a guy who is probably going to have a bronze statue in front of Chase Center some day.


It is. But at the same time, it's hard to imagine Klay being a starter on 3-year extension or being worth 20-25 million per year over the next few years, so if the team realizes that they are not going be able to keep Klay on an acceptable extension, they have to look for a trade.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#669 » by floppymoose » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:46 am

Warriorfan wrote:Just to put some facts into this. While the S may never be the same due to age/injury 2 more made 3s to be at career averages


His 3 ball isn't the problem though.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#670 » by lightyears » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:26 am

https://youtu.be/m1aE6pCZpa0?si=zWBQfNevDPXfMxE5&t=95

The tone of this answer certainly giving off washed up star vibes - reminds me of Melo's "Hey P" :lol:
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#671 » by bay2hk » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:40 am

hamncheese wrote:
HiRez wrote:It's pretty hard to imagine them sidelining or trading a guy who is probably going to have a bronze statue in front of Chase Center some day.


It is. But at the same time, it's hard to imagine Klay being a starter on 3-year extension or being worth 20-25 million per year over the next few years, so if the team realizes that they are not going be able to keep Klay on an acceptable extension, they have to look for a trade.


At this rate klay is worth $15m per year at most. If someone wants to overpay then let klay make the decision to leave. Wonder if OKC would be interested in a klay or cp3 trade for picks if giddey goes to jail
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#672 » by Warriorfan » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:12 am

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Warriorfan wrote:Just to put some facts into this. While the S may never be the same due to age/injury 2 more made 3s to be at career averages


His 3 ball isn't the problem though.


.415 career avg
.365 now

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#673 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:14 am

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Warriorfan wrote:Just to put some facts into this. While the S may never be the same due to age/injury 2 more made 3s to be at career averages


His 3 ball isn't the problem though.


Its not a problem for the other team, which is a problem for us
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#674 » by cpower » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:17 am



man Klay knows he is washed and he is in full denial... this is bad for us.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#675 » by Romulus » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:53 am

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man Klay knows he is washed and he is in full denial... this is bad for us.



Obviously he has no interest in going to the bench under any circumstances. Obviously he is only concerned with a new contract.

Your move, Kerr. Of course, we know what that means: no move at all. Everything stays the same and the Warriors will continue to struggle to be a .500 team.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#676 » by floppymoose » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:29 am

A.365 3 ball isnt why Klay is killing the team. Its that every other aspect of his game is worse than that.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#677 » by SpreeS » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:43 am

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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#678 » by HiRez » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:53 am

What Kerr might be able to get away with for a while is just subbing Klay out earlier, and bringing him back slightly later, to save face for him by retaining his starting slot, but cutting back his total minutes by a bit. Maybe do it slowly so he doesn’t notice that by the end of the season he’s only playing 24. Shaving an additional 8-10 seconds per game should get there.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#679 » by Old_Blue » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:27 am

Like it or not, Steve Kerr's got a fever and the only prescription is more Klay bell. And, if he's right, before we're done here, ya'll be wearing gold plated diapers. We just gotta let these guys explore the space. :D

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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#680 » by Warriorfan » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:45 pm

Just to put some facts over opinion
How far off is from his career averages.

Its a given his on ball D is not the same but he was part of an elite starting unit last season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html

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