is Klay done?

[SpreeChokeJob]

He just needs to visit Lebron’s doctor in Florida and he’ll be fine. He’ll just grow another forehead on top of his forehead and the next time Tim asks another question he’ll just say, “Is Klay Thompson going to have to choke a bitch?” But otherwise he’ll back to normal.

[CDM_Stats]

Klay is done with most of the members of the Warriors board.

He's the scapegoat, even though in the Kings game, Curry and Green each had critical turnovers in crunch time in a 1-point loss.

Someone noticed he got 9 or 10 rebounds and one of the haters said the rebounds just fell to him, didn't have to work for it.

This board is comical, as if the team's problems all rest with Klay, as if swapping the minutes from Klay to Moody and the Warriors would be at the top of the WC.

Should watch the game, he had 1 contested rebound..

That said, had a good first half. Was a complete zero in the 2nd half. And of the team's problems, at least the player problems, Klay is by far the #1 problem. Below average offensive efficiency and getting crushed defensively. Zero consistency to boot..

Meanwhile, Moody has been more efficient (far less volume FWIW, but), a better rebounder, a better passer, better at defense, and completely dwarves Klay's net ratings by any metric you want to choose. It might not put us atop the division, but it would clearly make the team better. With about 20% of the season already in the books, this looks to be more trend than mirage

[Onus]

Klay is done with most of the members of the Warriors board.

He's the scapegoat, even though in the Kings game, Curry and Green each had critical turnovers in crunch time in a 1-point loss.

Someone noticed he got 9 or 10 rebounds and one of the haters said the rebounds just fell to him, didn't have to work for it.

This board is comical, as if the team's problems all rest with Klay, as if swapping the minutes from Klay to Moody and the Warriors would be at the top of the WC.

Should watch the game, he had 1 contested rebound..

That said, had a good first half. Was a complete zero in the 2nd half. And of the team's problems, at least the player problems, Klay is by far the #1 problem. Below average offensive efficiency and getting crushed defensively. Zero consistency to boot..

Meanwhile, Moody has been more efficient (far less volume FWIW, but), a better rebounder, a better passer, better at defense, and completely dwarves Klay's net ratings by any metric you want to choose. It might not put us atop the division, but it would clearly make the team better. With about 20% of the season already in the books, this looks to be more trend than mirage

20% of the season is not a big enough sample size.

[jozef]

He is not done at all. His shots in 1st half were pure masterpiece. His two blocks on Monk and Fox on one-to-one drives prove he still can defend.

[SpreeS]

He is not done at all. His shots in 1st half were pure masterpiece. His two blocks on Monk and Fox on one-to-one drives prove he still can defend.

Block here and there isnt about good defence. The worst drtg and on/off netdrtg on team is red flag for Klay defence. He has the worst drtg in past 3y from all big minutes rotation player (Poole/Kuminga included)

[CDM_Stats]

I heard that Zach Lowe was saying on his latest pod that there's a market for Klay if the Warriors ever went that route.. they won't, but its interesting if true. Always nice to have options

[Crazy-Canuck]

I heard that Zach Lowe was saying on his latest pod that there's a market for Klay if the Warriors ever went that route.. they won't, but its interesting if true. Always nice to have options

I bet that interest is from the bulls to get off of lavine.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Watching Klay(and to some extent Dray) out there against starting quality NBA talent is sobering.

Klay was never a high end quick twitch athlete so for him to lose his youthful athleticism makes him look small and slow. One reasons the shots aren't falling like they used to is because he's not going into his shooting motion balanced and that's happening because he can't get separation coming off screens like he used to, forcing him to rush his shot.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I heard that Zach Lowe was saying on his latest pod that there's a market for Klay if the Warriors ever went that route.. they won't, but its interesting if true. Always nice to have options

I bet that interest is from the bulls to get off of lavine.

If Lavine's market sagged to the point the Bulls were willing to deal him to us for little more than the salary relief Klay's contract brought, would you do it?

[CDM_Stats]

I heard that Zach Lowe was saying on his latest pod that there's a market for Klay if the Warriors ever went that route.. they won't, but its interesting if true. Always nice to have options

I bet that interest is from the bulls to get off of lavine.

I'd have to hear it in context (I can't with these national types, they apply general logic across the board) but I'd wager that if the Bulls were shopping Lavine, they'd at least test the waters here. But I do think it would take an absolute Klay meltdown for the Warriors to even consider it, and by meltdown I mean he gets his minutes scaled back and publicly freaks out about it

[CDM_Stats]

I heard that Zach Lowe was saying on his latest pod that there's a market for Klay if the Warriors ever went that route.. they won't, but its interesting if true. Always nice to have options

I bet that interest is from the bulls to get off of lavine.

If Lavine's market sagged to the point the Bulls were willing to deal him to us for little more than the salary relief Klay's contract brought, would you do it?

Nah.. death by a million papercuts is why. Dray/Curry would hate it, you have to integrate Lavine into the system, it would render CP3's flexible offseason contract moot.. does Lavine represent an actual defensive upgrade? Could Lavine handle not being the main hub and the clear 2nd option?

I'm a big fan of continuity and I think the best path is just to limit Klays minutes more and more over the season to keep him fresh and to keep him from spiraling.. a hot stretch or two can't make up for the valleys. Kerr just needs to get and stay involved, as he slowly takes some responsibility from Klay and hands it to Moody. Klay doesnt need 36 minutes to "get going"... doesn't really need 30. Plus it gets Moody up to speed in the event of an injury. I think the solution is internal

[Crazy-Canuck]

I heard that Zach Lowe was saying on his latest pod that there's a market for Klay if the Warriors ever went that route.. they won't, but its interesting if true. Always nice to have options

I bet that interest is from the bulls to get off of lavine.

I'd have to hear it in context (I can't with these national types, they apply general logic across the board) but I'd wager that if the Bulls were shopping Lavine, they'd at least test the waters here. But I do think it would take an absolute Klay meltdown for the Warriors to even consider it, and by meltdown I mean he gets his minutes scaled back and publicly freaks out about it

Bulls have been shopping lavine, and woj just tweeted that there was no interest from other teams.

So a lavine for klay/jk type package is more than enough.

As far a integration, he's good friends with Wiggins and has become close with dray. So there are some connections here.

Defensively, he might be a little bit better than klay, except you'd want him more on guards than forwards.

I'm still not sure if id it though.

[cladden]

I bet that interest is from the bulls to get off of lavine.

I'd have to hear it in context (I can't with these national types, they apply general logic across the board) but I'd wager that if the Bulls were shopping Lavine, they'd at least test the waters here. But I do think it would take an absolute Klay meltdown for the Warriors to even consider it, and by meltdown I mean he gets his minutes scaled back and publicly freaks out about it

Bulls have been shopping lavine, and woj just tweeted that there was no interest from other teams.

So a lavine for klay/jk type package is more than enough.

As far a integration, he's good friends with Wiggins and has become close with dray. So there are some connections here.

Defensively, he might be a little bit better than klay, except you'd want him more on guards than forwards.

I'm still not sure if id it though.

I don't see why we would need to include JK in that deal. Also, I think we're done contending and I want to just keep and do rightish by Klay, Dray and Curry into the sunset so I'm against it for that reason. I do agree that LaVine would likely be an upgrade at this point even if he kinda is a chucker.

[DonaldSanders]

Based on Steve's recent interview, 11-30-23 night, what Lacob has said etc. I don't think there is a chance we trade Klay unless he is injured (then he could come back next year easily anyway). I am going to stop thinking about trading Klay because it is just not happening unless the circumstance is absolutely dire.

I just hope we can do the Klay in the 20s minute-wise thing, rather than Steve pushing him into the 30s all the time. The young guys need to play and we need them to be good to have a remote chance of being strong this year.

[Hoopstar23]

if we continue to have Klay on this roster, then we have stopped contending

[Crazy-Canuck]

if we continue to have Klay on this roster, then we have stopped contending

We dont need klay off the team, but kerr and klay do need to adapt to 2023 to do what's best for the team.

Just cut his minutes and tweak the rotations to help klay be the best version of himself. Having him play the second most minutes on the team does nothing but massage klays ego.

[Hoopstar23]

if we continue to have Klay on this roster, then we have stopped contending

We dont need klay off the team, but kerr and klay do need to adapt to 2023 to do what's best for the team.

Just cut his minutes and tweak the rotations to help klay be the best version of himself. Having him play the second most minutes on the team does nothing but massage klays ego.

but the issue is Klay is playing for his last big contract... you do that and he starts getting pissed because with minutes going down, he won't be able to show his worth in his eyes, and he's going to get pissed and in his feelings... I feel this situation is going to get ugly. Because the Warriors put themselves in this situation, we have to give him a 20-25 million a year contract for 3-4 years to a guy who might be a bench player next year because trust and believe he's going to get worse and worse every year of this supposed new contract that the Warriors might give to him.

[Onus]

Based on Steve's recent interview, 11-30-23 night, what Lacob has said etc. I don't think there is a chance we trade Klay unless he is injured (then he could come back next year easily anyway). I am going to stop thinking about trading Klay because it is just not happening unless the circumstance is absolutely dire.

I just hope we can do the Klay in the 20s minute-wise thing, rather than Steve pushing him into the 30s all the time. The young guys need to play and we need them to be good to have a remote chance of being strong this year.

Trading Klay always seemed unrealistic. We really need moody to get more minutes though.

[GSWFan1994]

From Hoopshype, today:

Zach Lowe: I’ve had four executives from other teams in the last 72 hours asked me, ‘Would they ever trade Klay Thompson?” And the reason they’re asking is because teams see somewhat of an opportunity there. In terms of, ‘Can we get involved in a deal? Would they have to attach an asset to trade Klay Thompson if they want to get meaningful win-now talent with multiple years left on their contract in exchange for Klay Thompson?’

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[CDM_Stats]

if we continue to have Klay on this roster, then we have stopped contending

We dont need klay off the team, but kerr and klay do need to adapt to 2023 to do what's best for the team.

Just cut his minutes and tweak the rotations to help klay be the best version of himself. Having him play the second most minutes on the team does nothing but massage klays ego.

but the issue is Klay is playing for his last big contract... you do that and he starts getting pissed because with minutes going down, he won't be able to show his worth in his eyes, and he's going to get pissed and in his feelings... I feel this situation is going to get ugly. Because the Warriors put themselves in this situation, we have to give him a 20-25 million a year contract for 3-4 years to a guy who might be a bench player next year because trust and believe he's going to get worse and worse every year of this supposed new contract that the Warriors might give to him.

There's a lot of hand-wringing going on today about things that wont happen because of reality. Yes, we probably would be marginally better on paper if we dealt Klay, using his large expiring + youth + picks.. but they clearly are not going to break up these 3, at least not via trade, so worrying about it isn't going to do anything. The only realistic hope is that Kerr scales back his minutes with an eye on keeping his battered legs fresh for as long as possible

Also maybe not playing him close to the rim on defense. I still cant believe that was a thing

But its Kerr. He's literally said what he's going to do, and thats let Klay play through it. He's not getting dealt, he's not getting cut, if he leaves the team itll be his choice to do so. All we can hope for is Kerr reigning it in more and giving Moody more of a chance to grow, because its in everyone's best interest to do so