Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? HE PULLED A MAGIC TRICK, HES NOT AN NBA PLAYER!!! HES A CHINA LEVEL PLAYER!!!
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Three players that in conjunction with Curry, Butler and Green could have had a great chance for the 5th title this year. Haliburton, Wagner and Murphy.
AND would have been true second timeline and support this year, transitioning into the roles of three aging greats in another two years. All three were easily available for the Warriors, neither was picked. How egregious that was.
AND would have been true second timeline and support this year, transitioning into the roles of three aging greats in another two years. All three were easily available for the Warriors, neither was picked. How egregious that was.
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tal57 wrote:Three players that in conjunction with Curry, Butler and Green could have had a great chance for the 5th title this year. Haliburton, Wagner and Murphy.
AND would have been true second timeline and support this year, transitioning into the roles of three aging greats in another two years. All three were easily available for the Warriors, neither was picked. How egregious that was.
And then the GM responsible for all those terrible drafts just bounces and quits when he realizes he fucked the organization for years to come. Douche behavior.
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Scottie15 wrote:tal57 wrote:Three players that in conjunction with Curry, Butler and Green could have had a great chance for the 5th title this year. Haliburton, Wagner and Murphy.
AND would have been true second timeline and support this year, transitioning into the roles of three aging greats in another two years. All three were easily available for the Warriors, neither was picked. How egregious that was.
And then the GM responsible for all those terrible drafts just bounces and quits when he realizes he fucked the organization for years to come. Douche behavior.
How would Haliburton and Curry backcourt look right about now. Or Wagner's BB IQ and shooting. And if Curry gets injured, Haliburton takes over without skipping a bit. Funny is that there was very little question about him as he was billed as practically consensus no doubt draft pick. Curry sustains the injury without being touched because his old legs had given up from the excessive overuse. Those two drafts of unique opportunities GS had in the dynasty window come once in the lifetime. Otherwise, it is usually the five-year process. The Spurs found Dunken, Parker and Ginobili. GS pics you know who.
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tal57 wrote:Scottie15 wrote:tal57 wrote:Three players that in conjunction with Curry, Butler and Green could have had a great chance for the 5th title this year. Haliburton, Wagner and Murphy.
AND would have been true second timeline and support this year, transitioning into the roles of three aging greats in another two years. All three were easily available for the Warriors, neither was picked. How egregious that was.
And then the GM responsible for all those terrible drafts just bounces and quits when he realizes he fucked the organization for years to come. Douche behavior.
How would Haliburton and Curry backcourt look right about now. Or Wagner's BB IQ and shooting. And if Curry gets injured, Haliburton takes over without skipping a bit. Funny is that there was very little question about him as he was billed as practically consensus no doubt draft pick. Curry sustains the injury without being touched because his old legs had given up from the excessive overuse. Those two drafts of unique opportunities GS had in the dynasty window come once in the lifetime. Otherwise, it is usually the five-year process. The Spurs found Dunken, Parker and Ginobili. GS pics you know who.
aside all that, still it could have been enough having poole in the roster instead of basically dump his contract for nothing. he could have been the other ballhandler, shot creator, 20+ points per game scorer this team desperately needs.
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Scottie15 wrote:tal57 wrote:Three players that in conjunction with Curry, Butler and Green could have had a great chance for the 5th title this year. Haliburton, Wagner and Murphy.
AND would have been true second timeline and support this year, transitioning into the roles of three aging greats in another two years. All three were easily available for the Warriors, neither was picked. How egregious that was.
And then the GM responsible for all those terrible drafts just bounces and quits when he realizes he fucked the organization for years to come. Douche behavior.
he run away like a thief.
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Wagner can’t shoot. But he can create, go downhill.
I have to wonder, Myers has final say but maybe their scouts and player personnel people suck too.
And many of them may still be in the building. Or Lacob meddles too much in drafts.
I have to wonder, Myers has final say but maybe their scouts and player personnel people suck too.
And many of them may still be in the building. Or Lacob meddles too much in drafts.
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I think its obvious that ownership gives their input on everything.. drafts, signings, trades.. But Myers has never been a good drafter going back to Jacob Evans and Damion Jones. Its odd they didnt get him more help along the way.
The minute they drafted Moody and Kuminga it was clear they werent the right picks
The minute they drafted Moody and Kuminga it was clear they werent the right picks
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powerball1373 wrote:Moses is now 0-5, 0-4, and 0-5 in his last 3 games... no bueno...
I mean it's pretty obvious something is up with him. This isn't just a normal slump. We'll probably find out next season when he's back to his normal self that he was nursing something.
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EvanZ wrote:powerball1373 wrote:Moses is now 0-5, 0-4, and 0-5 in his last 3 games... no bueno...
I mean it's pretty obvious something is up with him. This isn't just a normal slump. We'll probably find out next season when he's back to his normal self that he was nursing something.
Is it? When there was no pressure in garbage time he lit the rockets up for 25 ...
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2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
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1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
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Onus wrote:EvanZ wrote:powerball1373 wrote:Moses is now 0-5, 0-4, and 0-5 in his last 3 games... no bueno...
I mean it's pretty obvious something is up with him. This isn't just a normal slump. We'll probably find out next season when he's back to his normal self that he was nursing something.
Is it? When there was no pressure in garbage time he lit the rockets up for 25 ...
Yeah. I think part of it is a lack of ability, and part of it is mental. Earlier in his career, he wouldn't shoot with Curry and/or Klay on the court. Hell, he wouldn't shoot with Wiggins on the court.
They sent him down to G-League a few times, only to have him post 25+ point games. Hit the main squad, and those points disappeared. Good enough to own borderline NBA/G-League players, but not good enough to score consistently against NBA rotation players.
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Obviously I don’t know the answer, but I think it’s mental. It appears that his confidence seems to fluctuate, and when he isn’t confident, he becomes timid. And it hasn’t helped that Kerr has yo-yo’d his role and minutes throughout his career, so he’s constantly waiting for one mistake to be why he gets yanked from the game. To me its no surprise that his best stretch came when he was a lock to start and was getting 25+ minutes regardless if his shot was going in. It all changed a couple weeks ago when Kerr once again pulled him from the lineup because Jimmy got hurt and for some reason he went with Kuminga/Post starting… Buddy had a good game off the bench that game and we now seem to be going with a live or die by Buddy game plan.
I still think Moody is a very good player that usually impacts the game in a positive way…. however, the timidness he is playing with right now is destroying his decision-making and shooting.
I still think Moody is a very good player that usually impacts the game in a positive way…. however, the timidness he is playing with right now is destroying his decision-making and shooting.
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statsman wrote:Onus wrote:EvanZ wrote:I mean it's pretty obvious something is up with him. This isn't just a normal slump. We'll probably find out next season when he's back to his normal self that he was nursing something.
Is it? When there was no pressure in garbage time he lit the rockets up for 25 ...
Yeah. I think part of it is a lack of ability, and part of it is mental. Earlier in his career, he wouldn't shoot with Curry and/or Klay on the court. Hell, he wouldn't shoot with Wiggins on the court.
They sent him down to G-League a few times, only to have him post 25+ point games. Hit the main squad, and those points disappeared. Good enough to own borderline NBA/G-League players, but not good enough to score consistently against NBA rotation players.
I don't think he's this bad, but he's definitely in his head.
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
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Jimmy passed him the ball with less than 5 seconds left a couple of times. On one he tried to create a 3 off the dribble over McDaniels and it was an airball which led to a fast break the other way.
What this might indicate is that the coaches are not telling him to try to go to the basket, see if he can draw a foul or at least get a midrange jumper or runner rather than trying to shoot over an aggressive, long defender denying him a 3.
Usually with young players, a younger assistant coach will work with him, always be in his ear about details, tactics and strategies to always think of. Because the young coach is a believer in this young player. It seems like nobody on the coaching staff is rooting for Moody to succeed, maybe because they don't believe in him.
He's still only 22 but it may soon be inescapable that he just isn't someone who can be relied upon in the playoffs. In regular season games, he can get minutes but in high-leverage games, his ceiling is just too low.
Warriors need him because he's now going to be the primary wing defender next season. But beyond that, they don't know what he will get.
They're going to have to look to acquire someone else to be primary wing defender, some vet like DJJ on a low salary. Even if Moody shows improvement next season, they need more bodies to be out at the wing.
What this might indicate is that the coaches are not telling him to try to go to the basket, see if he can draw a foul or at least get a midrange jumper or runner rather than trying to shoot over an aggressive, long defender denying him a 3.
Usually with young players, a younger assistant coach will work with him, always be in his ear about details, tactics and strategies to always think of. Because the young coach is a believer in this young player. It seems like nobody on the coaching staff is rooting for Moody to succeed, maybe because they don't believe in him.
He's still only 22 but it may soon be inescapable that he just isn't someone who can be relied upon in the playoffs. In regular season games, he can get minutes but in high-leverage games, his ceiling is just too low.
Warriors need him because he's now going to be the primary wing defender next season. But beyond that, they don't know what he will get.
They're going to have to look to acquire someone else to be primary wing defender, some vet like DJJ on a low salary. Even if Moody shows improvement next season, they need more bodies to be out at the wing.
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If he can't put the ball on the deck against aggressive closeouts to get to a spot he's comfortable scoring from, he can't be a starter. I've seen him shoot midrange pullups, and I've seen him shoot midrange floaters a handful of times each. But he won't reliably go to it and I'm not sure why. It must just be an unwillingness to take shots from better scorers, but that's a recipe for falling out of the NBA. NBA players have to have what might seem like an irrational confidence in their ability to have any hope of competing at this level.
"Monta have it all" has to be Moody's mindset at least some of the time, no matter how crazy that might seem right now.
"Monta have it all" has to be Moody's mindset at least some of the time, no matter how crazy that might seem right now.
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Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
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Warriors front office extended a guy who cant start and cant contribute off the bench. He likely CAN be used as salary filler in a larger package however.
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wco81 wrote:Wagner can’t shoot. But he can create, go downhill.
I have to wonder, Myers has final say but maybe their scouts and player personnel people suck too.
And many of them may still be in the building. Or Lacob meddles too much in drafts.
I don't know about scouts, but Lacob definitely meddled into the draft, and Myers largely being his yes man produced the result. So not is everything on Myers or the scouts. Large portion of it was Lacob whose opinion of himself was always shrewd NBA talent evaluator and may have overridden their suggestions.
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Man, I don't know. He's obviously capable of competing at a much higher level, but his confidence is shot right now. The way opposing players push him around and disrespect him is sobering. He looks like a rec league All-Star trying to make it in the NBA.
Nobody's mentioning his "extremely high slope" anymore.
Sorry, Jester. Love you buddy.
Nobody's mentioning his "extremely high slope" anymore.
Sorry, Jester. Love you buddy.
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Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
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He was airballing from 4 feet with no hand in his face, he gets rushed tensed or tired from all the chasing around
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Sandy333 wrote:He was airballing from 4 feet with no hand in his face, he gets rushed tensed or tired from all the chasing around
He hasn't even played enough to be tired recently. He was playing longer minutes a month ago.
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