2021 Draft Thread

[clyde21]

ughhhh FNQ...im with u on everything except Kispert/Davion...killed me there,

[FNQ]

ughhhh FNQ...im with u on everything except Kispert/Davion...killed me there,

Davion I'm really unsure about. That might actually be Bouknight, maybe Duarte (I think hes a bit overrated on the board but I watch a lot of Pac12 and overcritique). I really dont want to like Kispert, but I keep thinking - if Curry, Klay, and Kispert are on the court all at the same time, would we ever take a 2 pointer?

Crazy low upside but you know exactly what you're getting, and I especially like the idea of pairing him with Poole in the 2nd unit. If the backup unit is basically Poole/Kispert/Barnes/JTA, thats a lot of guys that make the extra pass, and Kispert just needs a little daylight. Drafting a Korver at 14 isnt something I'd brag about, but I really wouldnt hate it, and I think it makes our 2nd unit dangerous offensively

A move down would probably be my true option #2, where I'd feel better about drafting Kispert, Duarte, even going as far as Juzang. In fact if Juzang really is a late 1st / early 2nd, I'd be all over that value. I think Juzang gives you about 95% of what Kispert does, and may even have some defensive upside. If we could turn the 14 (and probably other small assets) into the 19/21 (NYK) or 18/24 (HOU), maybe even 23/24, I'd be pretty happy with taking Juzang with the 2nd of the 1sts, and using the other on the best big (Garuba, Jackson, Bassey, Sharpe)

[DAWill1128]

This draft is interesting with two lottery picks, even though we are trying to contend. I am not sure this group can afford to take on some of the project players (which is the Wiseman situation) because we have some holes to fill.

The thing that makes me nervous is this draft has a handful of guys projected in the lottery that can’t shoot and could not really figure out how to score in college. If you could not score in college how are you going to next year in the NBA? It’s a significant challenge to go from a bad shooter to a good shooter in one offseason. I think some these guys are projects. Maybe it’s just the memories of Jacob Evans, Damian Jones, Jordan Bell, Chris Boucher. Lol okay well Chris Boucher figured it out, it just took a while and did not happen with us.

I would be okay with Moody at #7, he showed he was capable on both ends. But I really don’t think he’s the shooter some are saying, I mean 35% from 3 is not incredible. He’s not JJ Reddick or Klay. Seems like a KCP level shooter to me.

As an American who watches the NCAA it’s hard to compare the level of the NCAA to international leagues. In recent years I think the NBA scouts have underestimated the level of competition overseas like with Jokic and Nurkic. It almost seems crazy for any team to have passed on Doncic. Although LaMelo wasn’t an ideal fit I think Warriors management may have underestimated the level of competition he was playing against. Sengun I get the idea is probably a lot better than a lot of people think he is, he’s not really a fit but he might be to good to pass on.

At #14 I would be fine with Kispert, I think he could help from day 1. He fits what we do and that’s big. Would love to get back to shooting everyone off the floor, and yeah I hope Jessup comes over as well.

Dosonmu is actually the guy probably flying under the radar, I don’t think his ceiling is super high but his floor is one of the highest. When you are a 6-5 point guard with the relentless motor and speed that he has it’s going to be hard not to be a good backup point guard. Dosonmu reminds me of Fox, and he’s a capable outside shooter even though he’s really a dribble drive guy. I would take Dosonmu just to have that extra speed gear off the bench, he was arguably the top player in college basketball for a reason.

[Mylie10]

Kessler Edwards from Pepperdine gives you what Duarte, Kispert, and Juzang do as well. And he’s 6’8” 17 points 7 rebounds, played for Lorenzo Romar

[Mylie10]

Dang I’m loving this kid more and more.

Watch on YouTube

[GSWFan1994]

Dang I’m loving this kid more and more.

What, didn't you love him before?

Has your train just arrived now?

[Scoots1994]

15 player roster means there is always space to develop a few players. The issue is that some people are of the opinion that the Warriors should pass on players they grade MUCH higher to take players who have a slightly greater chance of contributing as rookies.

[Scoots1994]

The thing that makes me nervous is this draft has a handful of guys projected in the lottery that can’t shoot and could not really figure out how to score in college. If you could not score in college how are you going to next year in the NBA? It’s a significant challenge to go from a bad shooter to a good shooter in one offseason. I think some these guys are projects. Maybe it’s just the memories of Jacob Evans, Damian Jones, Jordan Bell, Chris Boucher. Lol okay well Chris Boucher figured it out, it just took a while and did not happen with us.

Considering that Evans, Jones, Bell, and Boucher were all taken at or after the end of the 1st round in a league where the talent falls off a cliff after the lottery it's not all that surprising that there are issues with players taken that late.

[Scoots1994]

Dang I’m loving this kid more and more.

Watch on YouTube

I'm on board with him at 14 ... if he makes it there.

McConnell, Poole, Barnes, Sengun, Wiseman is a 2nd unit I can enjoy.

[Mylie10]

Dang I’m loving this kid more and more.

What, didn't you love him before?

Has your train just arrived now?

Notice I said more AND more?

I like a ton of guys in this draft. To bad we want to trade all the picks. I’d grab a few more lol.

But my first priority is Stephen Curry. And if he wants vets over picks, then that’s how I roll.

[GSWFan1994]

Notice I said more AND more?

I like a ton of guys in this draft. To bad we want to trade all the picks. I’d grab a few more lol.

But my first priority is Stephen Curry. And if he wants vets over picks, then that’s how I roll.

So... how's your draft essay coming along?

[Mylie10]

Notice I said more AND more?

I like a ton of guys in this draft. To bad we want to trade all the picks. I’d grab a few more lol.

But my first priority is Stephen Curry. And if he wants vets over picks, then that’s how I roll.

So... how's your draft essay coming along?

I forgot. Do I have to list everyone? Lol or can I give you my thoughts on specific guys?

[GSWFan1994]

I forgot. Do I have to list everyone? Lol or can I give you my thoughts on specific guys?

Whatever you think it's best!

Just give me, if possible, your impressions on some of the top rated guys, and also the underrated and overrated players amongst them, from your point of view.

Actually though, just appreciate your thoughts on anything draft-related, and I'm sure lots of others here feel the same way, too.

[Mylie10]

Top 4:

Cade I love and think his game will translate so much better in the pros. His team wasn’t good around him at all, and the offense they ran was crap.

Mobley: stud. Best big man defender in the draft. Better than Wiseman overall mostly based on feel for the game. Can shoot it too.

Green: Uber athlete who I was really skeptical of prior to playing in the G. He’s so slight of frame but the dude shot good numbers against grown men. He’s gonna be so dynamic.

Suggs: so solid and poised for a Freshman. Really good size and can play defense and shoot it. Good all around game, love him.

Kuminga: Has the body, and projects to be a good defender, and actually at this stage of his game is probably his best attribute. He projects really well, but he’s more scary because his shooting numbers weren’t very good.

After that we can bounce around.

Scottie Barnes: longgggggg. Might be the most versatile defender in the draft. Can pick guys up full court in a press situation and can switch seamlessly to guard all five spots on the floor. Don’t let the production numbers get you down, because his coach at Florida State runs a legit 10 man rotation and everybody suffers minutes wise. He played some point but is definitely a playmaker. Good athlete too. Not a great shooter by any means though, so there’s the one red flag. Shot looks ok though? Squares up pretty good.

Mitchell: I’ve already gone on about him. But 205 lbs, best on ball defender in the draft. Good distributor at 5.5 assists versus 2 turnovers. Shared pg duties with Butler so he could have had way more assist totals. Fastest in college with the ball in his hands.

Moody: Good length, good defense, up and coming shooter? Versatile. What’s not to like? Just doesn’t knock me over.

Wagner: see Moody……and shrunk in the tournament. That Bothers me.

Sengun: love him and starting to love him more. Shade under 6’9” barefoot. 240. Mans league MVP. 20/10. Shot looks good and moving his game out to the three should open up his bread and butter inside game. Elite footwork already. Really strong base for his age. Really good vision and passer. Had some sneaky flash passing as well. I don’t care that we have Wiseman, this kid looks legit and we could have a Sabonis Turner type of frontline only I think Wiseman will be so much better than Turner, but maybe Sengun only gets close to what Sabonis is. But same mold.

Bouknight: Great scorer. Red flag is the 3 point percentage. Something like 29%. People are trying to tell me he fixed a hitch in his jumper, and he had to do to much for his team….maybe, but I get scared of lye riders in the draft who we’ve seen a ton of game footage on. To me he’s redundant with Poole because neither one is a pg.

Kispert: I was really on Kispert last year before he dropped out of the draft. Back then he was really late first or second round. I’m reluctant to take him at 7 but if we got him at 14 I’d be fine with it. I just think Klay and Jessup make his game a bit redundant.

Duarte: Older but who cares. He’s a great catch and shoot guy with a quick release. He would fit in right away, but again, another Klay and Jessup guy. But Duarte might be a decent defender. I like him.

Juzang: later pick here, but dude has the never quit grit game going on. Pretty versatile as well. I love competitors.

Ayo Dosunmu: guy is getting the shaft as far as draft spot projections go. Severely underrated. He does a bit of everything. Dude averaged 20, 6,6…..no joke. And was a Finalist for College player of the year. I don’t get it. Dude can play three positions. I’m in love with his game. He also has a great video you can watch of his heroics late in games. Cool as ess.

Shariffe Cooper: measured out was better at the combine than I would have thought. He is a TRUE POINT GUARD. He’s got sick handles and can finish. Not a great shooter, but it doesn’t look bad. Played at Auburn. He’s underrated.

Springer: six five point guard with good handle. He’s good, just something isn’t grabbing me about him. I don’t see leader. But I could be way off.

Garza: Poor guy would be top 5 in the draft 15 years ago. He is a legit tank. Measured out at 6’10” barefoot. And the widest of wide bodies. Pick and pop with him would be deadly. Really good post and midrange game. Ok defender great rebounder. Just slow as molasses. But I’m the right system with the right team, everyone will say, how come this guy didn’t get drafted higher.

Ayayi: he was mentioned by Reggae. Solid solid second round guy. Total team player. Does a bit of everything and he’s six foot five. Good defender too. Really pesky good hands. Super smart.

Don’t know much about Garuba, other than a really good defender already. Good man body. Need to see him in some games though.

Giddy: he has great vision and passing skills and is tall. Good handles and feel. Did well this year, but dude couldn’t make his Olympic team. That’s a red flag for me, because if Lamelo was Australian he’d be on that team hands down. So the comparison is kind of weak except for size and passing. Needs to learn to shoot.

Gonna take a break now. Lol

[shazam_guy]

Considering that Evans, Jones, Bell, and Boucher were all taken at or after the end of the 1st round in a league where the talent falls off a cliff after the lottery it's not all that surprising that there are issues with players taken that late.

This is one of the reasons I don't want to hustle Wiseman and this year's two picks out of the building. Yes, they may take a while to develop, but there's also a strong chance we don't draft above the late twenties for several years to come, and the idea of throwing all these lottery picks away for a veteran "star" when we already won three titles and had five straight finals feels like a bad idea.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm going to be a Ws fan until I die and I don't want another twenty+ years in the wilderness after Steph and Draymond retire. Been there. Hated that.

I would honestly rather risk coming up short of winning a title in the next two years than abandon the future. That doesn't mean not improving the team, but it means not throwing everything into NOW at the expense of three years from now. I know that seems like blasphemy to some fans, but I take the long view.

[shazam_guy]

I would love to get Ayayi late, but 14 seems too high. Same with Juzang, but I respect the hell out of his game after watching him in the Pac-12 this year. Maybe trade down and get both instead of 14. I would rather get Ayayi later in the first or early second than take a flyer on Davion at 14, although I wouldn't shoot myself if we picked up Mitchell with our current second pick. I think DM's going to be a decent NBA second PG -- a career somewhere between Tyus Edney and Darren Collison.

However, I would love to pick up Dosunmu if he falls to 14. He seems like he's definitely worth a flier, and I suspect he'll be better than his current slide suggests.

[DevinVassell]

I forgot. Do I have to list everyone? Lol or can I give you my thoughts on specific guys?

Whatever you think it's best!

Just give me, if possible, your impressions on some of the top rated guys, and also the underrated and overrated players amongst them, from your point of view.

Actually though, just appreciate your thoughts on anything draft-related, and I'm sure lots of others here feel the same way, too.

Well done GSW... our very own board reporter getting the big scoops!... and thanks to Mylie for the writeup. Enjoyed it.

[osx28]

Dang I’m loving this kid more and more.

What, didn't you love him before?

Has your train just arrived now?

Notice I said more AND more?

I like a ton of guys in this draft. To bad we want to trade all the picks. I’d grab a few more lol.

But my first priority is Stephen Curry. And if he wants vets over picks, then that’s how I roll.

I agree I'd send some future 1st and 2nd to get a couple more bites at this 2021 apple.

On your Steph point, while I agree with you, he should be the priority. I think people and the media are assuming Steph wants to win 100% next year and only next year and if he can't he won't be happy. I think he's smarter than that. As long as they can make a deep playoff run, he will be ok for the following year, as all of us will be too.

Some of these players in the draft can contribute to a nice playoff run, gain experience and then in 2 or 3 years they'll be ready to contribute to a championship.
Look at what Chris Paul is doing at 35-36, surrounded with young guys. Ayton is 3 years in. I don't think the model should be to sacrifice everything in the future for a 1 or max 2 year window and then suck for a decade or 2.

I don't agree with someone here that our window with steph is 5+ years, but it's definitely not 1 year either. Add Klay to this year's team and they would have been somewhere between 3-6 in the west and with all the injuries I feel they could be in the finals. Heck if Lebron hadn't hit that ridiculous 3 in the play-in, Maybe we'd be in the finals THIS year or at least conference finals, who knows.

Getting 3 or 4 top 20 picks this year like you suggest would be much better imo than trading for a middling star with a questionable fit like Pascal Siakam or Kristaps Porzingis. Short of Kawhai, Paul George or Giannis, I don't think trading the whole shebang is worth it.

Let the young fellows develop, with Klay back I think it's a lock we make the playoffs, get them some experience. If we're lucky we could make some serious noise, if not, the playoff experience they gain will be invaluable for the following year and then a Phoenix-type run would be in play.

[GSWFan1994]

Gonna take a break now. Lol

And it will be a well deserved break, sir!

Thanks for your time. Much appreciated.

I must say I agree with you on like 90% of what you wrote.

Let me ask you, what do you think of Jalen Johnson and Ziaire Williams?

I saw you didn't mention them. Didn't they caught your laser eyes?

[GSWFan1994]

Well done GSW... our very own board reporter getting the big scoops!... and thanks to Mylie for the writeup. Enjoyed it.

Thanks man! But the credit must all go straigth to Mylie. He's the one who's calling the shots, lol.