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Re: Warriors 2021 Roster/Lineup 

Post#81 » by cdubbz » Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:34 am

Ohhhhh baby I’m excited for this season!!! I think our depth it what wins it for us. We’re 3 deep in all positions. Versatile? yes, veterans? Yes. Young core? Yes.

I have high hopes for the young guys. I’m hoping Poole has a breakout year. Nico Mannions Olympic experience helps him as an overall player. Wiseman gets healthy and the game slows down for him.
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Post#82 » by azwfan » Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:48 am

xdrta+ wrote:
azwfan wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:Since we're listing rosters, this is how it looks to me. Unless one of the trade rumors we keep hearing about, or another one, comes to pass, it seems that these 13 roster spots are set in stone.

Curry
Thompson
Wiggins
Green
Wiseman
Kuminga
Looney
Moody
Poole
Toscano-Anderson
Iguodala
Porter
Bjelica

Nico will be a two-way. If another team makes him an offer it will be inconvenient and the Warriors will have to make a tough decision.

If the Warriors go into the season with 14 on the roster, as I'm pretty sure they would like to, that leaves one spot for Lee, Mulder, and Payton to battle over. Payton is the dark horse but, IMO, he might surprise.

Now, if they decide to add Chriss, or one other FA, that might close the roster, or they might carry 15. But that seems less likely for some reason.

Payton has a guarantee date coming up early next week (dont remember the date). I think if he doesn't move that date back, he's getting cut.


Aug 11 Payton has $659k guarantee. I think they'll keep him through camp, at least, when he has another guarantee on Oct 17 for $1.3M. That will be the one when they decide, IMO.

Whats the LT on 659k? My thought is that its not insignificant, but I could be wrong.
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Post#83 » by azwfan » Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:53 am

cdubbz wrote:Ohhhhh baby I’m excited for this season!!! I think our depth it what wins it for us. We’re 3 deep in all positions. Versatile? yes, veterans? Yes. Young core? Yes.

I have high hopes for the young guys. I’m hoping Poole has a breakout year. Nico Mannions Olympic experience helps him as an overall player. Wiseman gets healthy and the game slows down for him.

I'm hoping we can keep Nico on a two-way and at some point he gets some run with the big club and we see some significant growth.
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Post#84 » by Arlo » Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:55 am

gst8 wrote:Is Baynes completely useless at this point? I'd still like to have one legit big body on the roster.

Maybe not useless, but certainly diminished...pretty grim year in Toronto, and no opportunity to see him in the Olympics to re-appraise.

He's thrown himself in front of a hell of a lot of charges over the years, body may have had enough.
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Post#85 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:35 am

floppymoose wrote:Wiseman shouldn't start. Not until he's proven something.


Doesn't mean he's not going to start. Right now that's my prediction. Not because I want him to start, but I don't think it's going to be Looney or Bjelica.
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Post#86 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:08 am

xdrta+ wrote:
azwfan wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:Since we're listing rosters, this is how it looks to me. Unless one of the trade rumors we keep hearing about, or another one, comes to pass, it seems that these 13 roster spots are set in stone.

Curry
Thompson
Wiggins
Green
Wiseman
Kuminga
Looney
Moody
Poole
Toscano-Anderson
Iguodala
Porter
Bjelica

Nico will be a two-way. If another team makes him an offer it will be inconvenient and the Warriors will have to make a tough decision.

If the Warriors go into the season with 14 on the roster, as I'm pretty sure they would like to, that leaves one spot for Lee, Mulder, and Payton to battle over. Payton is the dark horse but, IMO, he might surprise.

Now, if they decide to add Chriss, or one other FA, that might close the roster, or they might carry 15. But that seems less likely for some reason.

Payton has a guarantee date coming up early next week (dont remember the date). I think if he doesn't move that date back, he's getting cut.


Aug 11 Payton has $659k guarantee. I think they'll keep him through camp, at least, when he has another guarantee on Oct 17 for $1.3M. That will be the one when they decide, IMO.


I thought they may cut him and ask him to come back. But who knows.
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Post#87 » by CS707 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:17 am

Arlo wrote:
gst8 wrote:Is Baynes completely useless at this point? I'd still like to have one legit big body on the roster.

Maybe not useless, but certainly diminished...pretty grim year in Toronto, and no opportunity to see him in the Olympics to re-appraise.

He's thrown himself in front of a hell of a lot of charges over the years, body may have had enough.


I don’t need him for steady minutes. Just the occasional sub for nights we’re getting punked inside. Maybe antagonize Dwight Howard a little bit.
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Post#88 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:26 am

gst8 wrote:
Arlo wrote:
gst8 wrote:Is Baynes completely useless at this point? I'd still like to have one legit big body on the roster.

Maybe not useless, but certainly diminished...pretty grim year in Toronto, and no opportunity to see him in the Olympics to re-appraise.

He's thrown himself in front of a hell of a lot of charges over the years, body may have had enough.


I don’t need him for steady minutes. Just the occasional sub for nights we’re getting punked inside. Maybe antagonize Dwight Howard a little bit.


There just isn't space on the roster for that limited a role. The guy to go against the limited number of big centers is Wiseman.
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Post#89 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:57 pm

Warriors should START BJ at center. Having a vet stretch center (and I'm sure he can dunk on the lob and set picks) keeps it simple to start the season. Warriors have not had a competent scoring center in 50 years! lol

Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Draymond, BJ.....I love this lineup.

Probabaly start OPJ in Klays spot until he's ready to go full time.

IF Wiseman starts to show fluid NBA level scoring and defending they can promote him later or just keep in on the bench for the whole season.

LOVE this team now....nice balance of young hopefulls and vet help.
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Post#90 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:37 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Warriors should START BJ at center. Having a vet stretch center (and I'm sure he can dunk on the lob and set picks) keeps it simple to start the season. Warriors have not had a competent scoring center in 50 years! lol

Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Draymond, BJ.....I love this lineup.

Probabaly start OPJ in Klays spot until he's ready to go full time.

IF Wiseman starts to show fluid NBA level scoring and defending they can promote him later or just keep in on the bench for the whole season.

LOVE this team now....nice balance of young hopefulls and vet help.


Game 1 of the season starting lineup is really up in the air. How healthy is everybody? How do they look in camp? Which lineups work best for the 2nd unit? Really the only 3 certain starters are Curry, Wiggins, and Green. And the other 2 could be a whole list of options, including Wiggins maybe starting at 2 and Wiseman starting at 5.
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Post#91 » by Bimbo_Coles » Sat Aug 7, 2021 5:03 pm

Just amazing how much depth and flexibility there is with this roster.

I like the idea of keeping GP2 around. Mannion should spend as much time as possible in the G-League to develop and throw lobs to Kuminga. And Poole should get most of the PG minutes when Steph isn't on the court. But we need a 3rd PG on the roster in a pinch, and at the end of the bench, it's best to have someone with a tangible skill that could be useful.

This is how I feel about BJ too. Those end of the bench guys should have a specific skill that can be useful in specific matchups. Kind of like a submarine lefty out of the bullpen. BJ gives us that with his floor spacing and passing. GP2 can be used to cool down elite guards, or in end of quarter / half situations for defensive purposes. He doesn't really need more G-League reps at this point, so worth keeping up with the big club.
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Post#92 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:08 pm

ALL it would take (aside from health) for the Warriors to be championship favs ...
for Wiseman to exceed expections and begin to dominate defensively
or
Poole to become a dominant bench scorer.
or
Either Kuminga or Moody are very good in the first year.

Odds of at least one of those things happenign are pretty good I think.
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Post#93 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:11 am

ILOVEIT wrote:ALL it would take (aside from health) for the Warriors to be championship favs ...
for Wiseman to exceed expections and begin to dominate defensively
or
Poole to become a dominant bench scorer.
or
Either Kuminga or Moody are very good in the first year.

Odds of at least one of those things happenign are pretty good I think.


They don't even need to be "dominant" they just need to be functional.

If the Warriors are healthy they will be in very good shape.
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Post#94 » by azwfan » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:19 am

Yeah, I’m liking the roster also. Im even happy with having either Lee or Mulder or GP2 as the 14th guy although I think I prefer Lee the most.

Im hoping we can find a training camp invitee combo guard who plays well. Was hoping for Jaqouri but he wasnt as impressive as I hoped in Sacramento. Hopefully he’ll be in Vegas or someone else will have a good SL showing that we can snag.
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Post#95 » by shazam_guy » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:26 am

Payton II was actually pretty good in both Sacto games I saw.
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Post#96 » by floppymoose » Sun Aug 8, 2021 2:57 am

Bimbo_Coles wrote:Just amazing how much depth and flexibility there is with this roster.

I thought that with Jerebko and Caspi too. The players still need to make it happen on court.
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Post#97 » by Mylie10 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 4:09 am

I was fine with Jerebko. Thought he got the short end of the stick with Kerr
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Post#98 » by Impuniti » Sun Aug 8, 2021 4:32 am

My guess is Warriors start to win, and to do that 4/5 starters are going to be the guys who were part of the winning run last season.
Steph, Dray, Wig, Loon

Then you have Wise fighting with Loon for the starting position over time, but he likely plays when Steph sits to get used to the game. Bjelica to be used as the 4 or 5 depending on the situation, these 3 guys will be rotated for the 5.



To me the more interesting question is who plays as the SG? I know Poole is a favorite, but I think he still gets 30MPG if he improves elevates his game from the end of last season this year since Klay will be out for so long. But more of the Iggy of the past super-role. I think there is a scenarios
1. Wiggins plays the 2, OPJ the 3 to start off, or
2. My early hot take of the season is Moses starts as an SG early into the season

Not because he is better than OPJ or Poole, but he is long, big, can play some D and hit 3s. They won't be undersized with him starting. Not an insult to Poole who is the far more valuable player, just more of the chess matches to go into the RS.
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Post#99 » by Samurai » Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:15 am

Impuniti wrote:My guess is Warriors start to win, and to do that 4/5 starters are going to be the guys who were part of the winning run last season.
Steph, Dray, Wig, Loon

Then you have Wise fighting with Loon for the starting position over time, but he likely plays when Steph sits to get used to the game. Bjelica to be used as the 4 or 5 depending on the situation, these 3 guys will be rotated for the 5.



To me the more interesting question is who plays as the SG? I know Poole is a favorite, but I think he still gets 30MPG if he improves elevates his game from the end of last season this year since Klay will be out for so long. But more of the Iggy of the past super-role. I think there is a scenarios
1. Wiggins plays the 2, OPJ the 3 to start off, or
2. My early hot take of the season is Moses starts as an SG early into the season

Not because he is better than OPJ or Poole, but he is long, big, can play some D and hit 3s. They won't be undersized with him starting. Not an insult to Poole who is the far more valuable player, just more of the chess matches to go into the RS.

If healthy, I could see your option 1 being the answer. The challenge, of course, is whether Porter will be healthy and if so, for how long. If it can be avoided, I see Kerr not wanting to put the pressure of being a starter on Moody. Wiseman began the year in the starting lineup and the results were......not optimal. After that fiasco, Kerr admitted recently that the onus is on himself as the head coach to simplify the game and put players like Wiseman into a position to be successful and indicated he hopes to do better at that this season. At least it is good that Kerr recognizes that coaches also need to grow and develop just as players do. I think that same lesson will also apply to Kuminga and Moody and let the veterans shoulder more of that added pressure. If the vets feel the added stress of starting, at least they can legally buy a beer to help cope!
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Post#100 » by ChuckDurn » Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:00 am

Impuniti wrote:My guess is Warriors start to win, and to do that 4/5 starters are going to be the guys who were part of the winning run last season.
Steph, Dray, Wig, Loon

Then you have Wise fighting with Loon for the starting position over time, but he likely plays when Steph sits to get used to the game. Bjelica to be used as the 4 or 5 depending on the situation, these 3 guys will be rotated for the 5.



To me the more interesting question is who plays as the SG? I know Poole is a favorite, but I think he still gets 30MPG if he improves elevates his game from the end of last season this year since Klay will be out for so long. But more of the Iggy of the past super-role. I think there is a scenarios
1. Wiggins plays the 2, OPJ the 3 to start off, or
2. My early hot take of the season is Moses starts as an SG early into the season

Not because he is better than OPJ or Poole, but he is long, big, can play some D and hit 3s. They won't be undersized with him starting. Not an insult to Poole who is the far more valuable player, just more of the chess matches to go into the RS.

Barring some major surprise, I expect the Warriors to keep Lee, and that he’ll start at SG until Klay is able to come back and assume the starting position. Lee has good chemistry with Curry, and knows the system, which is probably the biggest thing at the start of the season. But once Klay returns, we won’t see much of Lee, other than in mop-up or load management back-up roles.

I think Poole will continue to come off the bench (Kerr doesn’t want to change that, and will want Poole to charge the offense up once Curry’s off the floor). Kerr has a history of making young players earn their time, particularly to start (Wiseman was an exception), so I’d expect Moody to be coming off the bench with Poole, unless he comes out and absolutely kills it in the summer league and training camp.
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