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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#81 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 4:40 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Klutch and dray already laying the path to the lakers while playing the victim card on the way out. Rich paul is that guy.


Dray apparently that guy too.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#82 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Oct 6, 2022 4:46 pm

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Read on Twitter


Is Chris Haynes employed by Klutch? This sounds like something somebody with LeBron's balls in his mouth would say.


I've never liked his reporting.


he's basically a PR guy for Lebron
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#83 » by GSWFan1994 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 4:52 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:We appear to be entering the “disease of more” era of this dynasty.


Yep, I thought about that as well. Really hope it isn't the case.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#84 » by GSWFan1994 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 4:54 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:he's basically a PR guy for Lebron


These guys never "report" or "inform" anything, they just serve to push a narrative.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#85 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Oct 6, 2022 4:55 pm

I think we should let Dray play out the year, let him accept his player option for 23-24 and then part ways with him after that. You gotta figure by October of 2024 he's not going to be an important part of this team anyways. I hope Poole's head isn't getting too big. I mean he had some big games and big moments for us in the playoffs but he was also a liability on defense a lot of the time as well.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#86 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 5:01 pm

Make a note that Haynes cites “league sources” not “team sources” or sources inside the organization. I’m not saying no one said this to him but it was no one in a position to know firsthand. Take it with a grain of salt at best
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#87 » by whatisacenter » Thu Oct 6, 2022 5:15 pm

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Sleepy51 wrote:Assholery aside I like the idea of using Draymond as salary ballast to get value in a Poole trade.

That combo could bring back a heck of a player in return and help with the lux tax crunch

yeah, every team would want the two guys in a combo deal who are beefing with each other. :lol:


Draymond is bout to be at $27mm expiring. He can beef his way right out the league. He’s just the salary ballast that lets us trade Poole for a $30mm player while keeping Wiggins. Poole is the asset in the deal

why not just keep and extend Poole/Wiggins and let Draymond expire? or do you think you could get a player better than Poole in your trade scenario?
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#88 » by clyde21 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 5:36 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Klutch and dray already laying the path to the lakers while playing the victim card on the way out. Rich paul is that guy.


wouldn't mind rolling out the red carpet for Dray all the way to LA

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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#89 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Oct 6, 2022 5:37 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:yeah, every team would want the two guys in a combo deal who are beefing with each other. :lol:


Draymond is bout to be at $27mm expiring. He can beef his way right out the league. He’s just the salary ballast that lets us trade Poole for a $30mm player while keeping Wiggins. Poole is the asset in the deal

why not just keep and extend Poole/Wiggins and let Draymond expire? or do you think you could get a player better than Poole in your trade scenario?


Dray picks up his player option and poole gets 4/120, its likely wiggins is let go.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#90 » by clyde21 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 5:37 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:We appear to be entering the “disease of more” era of this dynasty.



the era of abundance is over
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#91 » by clyde21 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 5:40 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
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Draymond is bout to be at $27mm expiring. He can beef his way right out the league. He’s just the salary ballast that lets us trade Poole for a $30mm player while keeping Wiggins. Poole is the asset in the deal

why not just keep and extend Poole/Wiggins and let Draymond expire? or do you think you could get a player better than Poole in your trade scenario?


Dray picks up his player option and poole gets 4/120, its likely wiggins is let go.


if we let our best 2-way wing go for Dray/Poole i'm gonna be livid.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#92 » by whatisacenter » Thu Oct 6, 2022 5:51 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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whatisacenter wrote:why not just keep and extend Poole/Wiggins and let Draymond expire? or do you think you could get a player better than Poole in your trade scenario?


Dray picks up his player option and poole gets 4/120, its likely wiggins is let go.


if we let our best 2-way wing go for Dray/Poole i'm gonna be livid.

so is Draymond an expiring $27M contract in this scenario or not?

I personally think the FO should not extend Wiggins, Poole or Draymond this season. Run it back and let Poole and Wiggins show that they can build on last season and see if Draymond can stay healthy.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#93 » by theBigLip » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:01 pm

Sign Poole and Wiggins, otherwise no future.

Don’t extend Draymond who will pick up his option. Maybe trade him while he still has some value.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#94 » by xdrta+ » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:01 pm

How is Draymond an expiring? He's owed $54M including his option.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#95 » by GunnerWRX » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:04 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Klutch and dray already laying the path to the lakers while playing the victim card on the way out. Rich paul is that guy.


The Lakers will have cap space but they are not stupid. Draymond will be 33.5 yo when FA begins next summer. Lakers fans are thinking MLE or $15M/yr when they talk about "signing Draymond". He will be lucky to close to $80M/3 in an open market, with his age, injury history, team fit, and baggage.

Come June, the ~$28M PO will look like his best option.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#96 » by clyde21 » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:04 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
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Dray picks up his player option and poole gets 4/120, its likely wiggins is let go.


if we let our best 2-way wing go for Dray/Poole i'm gonna be livid.

so is Draymond an expiring $27M contract in this scenario or not?

I personally think the FO should not extend Wiggins, Poole or Draymond this season. Run it back and let Poole and Wiggins show that they can build on last season and see if Draymond can stay healthy.


he has two more seasons, but he's NOT opting in for 23-24.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#97 » by HiRez » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:18 pm

There is no reason not to extend Poole right now, hell they should have gotten it done last year when he would have been cheaper. Even if it doesn't work out and they decide to move him later for whatever reason, he's gonna be tradable at almost any salary, I'm not saying he should be but that's just where the league is. Tyler freakin' Herro signed for $32.5M/yr., Jalen Brunson signed for $26M/yr.. And the cap is going up. I'm hoping the Warriors can sign Poole in the $20M to $25M range, but even if it's closer to 30, it's not a terrible risk.

Draymond is a lot trickier. How many teams want a 32.5-year-old non-scoring power forward who's a known repeat malcontent and may have chronic back problems? And now a guy who punches his teammates. Yes, he's got the championship mettle, yes, he's a great floor manager (if his teammates buy in), and yes, when healthy he's an elite defender. But there's a lot of baggage and red flags there. Draymond just cost himself a lot of money, I'll be surprised if the Warriors offer him a dime over $25M/yr. now, if they don't decide to move on from him. Dubs management just got a great justification from Draymond himself to either offer less, not make an offer at all, or trade him.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#98 » by xdrta+ » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:27 pm

There are several reasons Draymond would pick up his option. Injuries, poor season so that no one will give him a multi-year contract--both of which seem more than just possible. That option may look pretty good to him next June.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#99 » by TB » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:30 pm

IF Poole has been acting like a punk (which goes against what Andre is saying...) then Dray was at least correct in his reasoning (not actions) and this will all blow over and probably be good for Poole.

IF Dray just overreacted to Poole talking normal swagger type stuff during practice, then this is fully on Dray. Also probably blows over and no big deal.

BUT.... while this type of stuff is always just what you deal with when you have a Dray/Rodman type... if there was ever a time that the Warriors might finally say "is this worth it?".. it would probably be when Dray is 32, in a contract year, asking for the max, coming off a playoff series where he actually had some really bad moments, and lux tax sort of requiring one of dray/wiggins/poole to not get a raise....

Just sayin.
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Re: Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice 

Post#100 » by xdrta+ » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:33 pm

HiRez wrote:There is no reason not to extend Poole right now, hell they should have gotten it done last year when he would have been cheaper.


You can only extend a rookie scale contract from the end of the July Moratorium to the day before the start of the regular season preceding the player's last option season. In other words, this summer.

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