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Post#81 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:17 pm

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Interesting. I don't really disagree but would also like to see Curry at the 2 next to dray/wigs and either buddy/jk/loon depending on matchups. Doesn't mean he needs to start. The Dennis, Steph, buddy three guard lineup is one I'm interested in seeing and am hopeful this sends podz to the g League for a few weeks

The big question is, does schroeder close? I would think the answer is yes considering how hard it is for us to dribble the ball when there's less than 6 mins left in the game.


Curry will have to play some 2 with Schroder at some point, I'm fine with that. Its more about Hield - he needs every minute he can get with Steph. Steph doesnt need it, but it sure does help when he's not the only legitimate sniper out there. I would love to see Schroder get 28mpg and Curry get 30, which would leave 38 guard minutes to be divided between Hield (24) and Podz (14). Ideally, anyways

But my fear with Kerr is he starts Schroder and Podz is still getting some backup PG minutes. Or that Schroder starting puts Hield back on the bench.. I like Schroder a lot obviously, but his jumper is more Wiggins-level than Hield-level, and the spacing is going to be key for Wiggins and I guess JK to have lanes to penetrate. But all that is moot if the team tries to get the drivers going first instead of the shooters

Wouldn't Schröder take GPII's spot and not Hield's?


Depends what you define as Hield's spot... everything's changed too much

I would think, ideally, Schroder takes Podz' spot. Podz falls into a situational role along with the other scrubby guards/wings of Waters and Moody, getting PT based on whoevers doing best. But a lot of reports suggesting Kerr is going to start Schroder, which to me is taking Hield's spot
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#82 » by vagelis » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:14 pm

I think that Schroeder will make a big difference for Warriors and he makes them one of the favorites in my eyes

I think he will fit well and he is a difference maker
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#83 » by Twinkie defense » Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:29 pm

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Curry will have to play some 2 with Schroder at some point, I'm fine with that. Its more about Hield - he needs every minute he can get with Steph. Steph doesnt need it, but it sure does help when he's not the only legitimate sniper out there. I would love to see Schroder get 28mpg and Curry get 30, which would leave 38 guard minutes to be divided between Hield (24) and Podz (14). Ideally, anyways

But my fear with Kerr is he starts Schroder and Podz is still getting some backup PG minutes. Or that Schroder starting puts Hield back on the bench.. I like Schroder a lot obviously, but his jumper is more Wiggins-level than Hield-level, and the spacing is going to be key for Wiggins and I guess JK to have lanes to penetrate. But all that is moot if the team tries to get the drivers going first instead of the shooters

Wouldn't Schröder take GPII's spot and not Hield's?


Depends what you define as Hield's spot... everything's changed too much

I would think, ideally, Schroder takes Podz' spot. Podz falls into a situational role along with the other scrubby guards/wings of Waters and Moody, getting PT based on whoevers doing best. But a lot of reports suggesting Kerr is going to start Schroder, which to me is taking Hield's spot

Schröder / Curry / Hield / Kuminga + Loon or Dray, depending on the center matchup.

Edit: oh wait, that was the "Wiggins is injured" lineup :lol:

Can Kuminga play center? :rofl:
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Post#84 » by whatisacenter » Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:40 pm

Schroder and Pat Spencer are going to get along. :lol:

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Post#85 » by TB » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:05 am

whatisacenter wrote:Schroder and Pat Spencer are going to get along. :lol:

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Post#86 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:22 am

He was practicing with the second unit today.
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Post#87 » by tal57 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:29 am

Kerr says he can't wait to pair Shroder with Curry in the starting lineup. There you have it. I guess Podz is still running the second unit.
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Post#88 » by CDM_Stats » Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:11 am

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Twinkie defense wrote:Wouldn't Schröder take GPII's spot and not Hield's?


Depends what you define as Hield's spot... everything's changed too much

I would think, ideally, Schroder takes Podz' spot. Podz falls into a situational role along with the other scrubby guards/wings of Waters and Moody, getting PT based on whoevers doing best. But a lot of reports suggesting Kerr is going to start Schroder, which to me is taking Hield's spot

Schröder / Curry / Hield / Kuminga + Loon or Dray, depending on the center matchup.

Edit: oh wait, that was the "Wiggins is injured" lineup :lol:

Can Kuminga play center? :rofl:


I mean we're still trying to figure out if he can play power forward... defensively he just isn't getting it, and offensively we have to put training wheels on to accommodate what he can do. If he's actually a starter, his play off the bench would scream it. But Kerr's fallen right back into what he's done the past 2 years and playing whack-a-mole with problems instead of just setting the best lineup and building off that
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#89 » by CDM_Stats » Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:13 am

tal57 wrote:Kerr says he can't wait to pair Shroder with Curry in the starting lineup. There you have it. I guess Podz is still running the second unit.


Crazy-Canuck wrote:He was practicing with the second unit today.


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Post#90 » by Onus » Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:03 am

Kerr said Schroeder will play all the non Steph minutes while also starting. Steph is taking breaks in the middles of quarters currently which means will Dennis play the final 8 - 9 minutes of the game?
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#91 » by vvoland » Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:56 am

[quote="Onus"]Kerr said Schroeder will play all the non Steph minutes while also starting. Steph is taking breaks in the middles of quarters currently which means will Dennis play the final 8 - 9 minutes of the game?[/quote]

So that's 18 minutes with Steph on the bench. Another 4 start each half, and the last 4 of each half would be 34 min.

They'll also probably go back to Steph's former minutes distribution since the recent change seemed to be a response to the bench sucking
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Post#92 » by whatisacenter » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:35 am

Onus wrote:Kerr said Schroeder will play all the non Steph minutes while also starting. Steph is taking breaks in the middles of quarters currently which means will Dennis play the final 8 - 9 minutes of the game?


Hopefully this means less Podz….like a lot less.
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#93 » by tal57 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:38 pm

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tal57 wrote:Kerr says he can't wait to pair Shroder with Curry in the starting lineup. There you have it. I guess Podz is still running the second unit.


Crazy-Canuck wrote:He was practicing with the second unit today.


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"Kerr said Schroder could be in the starting lineup Thursday, when the Warriors play at Memphis. The Warriors coach likes the idea of playing the two point guards together so that Schroder can help set up Curry for some easier scoring opportunities."

I only stated what I read. Yes, Kerr also said he will play non Steph minutes and organize second unit. Is he going to play 48 min a game?
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Post#94 » by whatisacenter » Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:09 pm

tal57 wrote:
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tal57 wrote:Kerr says he can't wait to pair Shroder with Curry in the starting lineup. There you have it. I guess Podz is still running the second unit.


Crazy-Canuck wrote:He was practicing with the second unit today.


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"Kerr said Schroder could be in the starting lineup Thursday, when the Warriors play at Memphis. The Warriors coach likes the idea of playing the two point guards together so that Schroder can help set up Curry for some easier scoring opportunities."

I only stated what I read. Yes, Kerr also said he will play non Steph minutes and organize second unit. Is he going to play 48 min a game?


I think CDM was poking fun at the mixed signals more than what you brought to the table.
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#95 » by floppymoose » Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:11 pm

tal57 wrote:Kerr says he can't wait to pair Shroder with Curry in the starting lineup. There you have it. I guess Podz is still running the second unit.

Kerr said he wants DS on court for all the minutes Steph sits. He also said Podz is better off-ball. So the message is clear: GS will make things simpler for Podz.
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Post#96 » by tal57 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:21 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
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"Kerr said Schroder could be in the starting lineup Thursday, when the Warriors play at Memphis. The Warriors coach likes the idea of playing the two point guards together so that Schroder can help set up Curry for some easier scoring opportunities."

I only stated what I read. Yes, Kerr also said he will play non Steph minutes and organize second unit. Is he going to play 48 min a game?


I think CDM was poking fun at the mixed signals more than what you brought to the table.


Yeh, I know what CDM meant, and I wasn't pushing back. I simply supported my statement with printed Kerr's quote I saw.
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#97 » by CDM_Stats » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:06 pm

tal57 wrote:
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"Kerr said Schroder could be in the starting lineup Thursday, when the Warriors play at Memphis. The Warriors coach likes the idea of playing the two point guards together so that Schroder can help set up Curry for some easier scoring opportunities."

I only stated what I read. Yes, Kerr also said he will play non Steph minutes and organize second unit. Is he going to play 48 min a game?


I think CDM was poking fun at the mixed signals more than what you brought to the table.


Yeh, I know what CDM meant, and I wasn't pushing back. I simply supported my statement with printed Kerr's quote I saw.


And I think you hit the nail on the head of what I meant too.. Kerr is saying way, way too many things and not all of them can be true

Curry has been starting and ending quarters, Kerr wants to start Schroder, but also give Schroder all the non-Steph minutes. To me that means that, since Curry's playing 30 mpg, that Schroder is in line to either lead the team in minutes every night, or he wont be closing. If Schroder starts Q1/Q3 with Steph and plays 5 minutes each time, along with the 18 non Steph minutes, thats 28 right there. If he's also closing halves thats another 8, or if its just end games its 4, and that's 32mpg, leading the team. Safe to say its probably not a good idea that a guy who's not coming from a motion offense and has joined the team 3 days ago shouldn't be leading the team in minutes

Just wish things would be simple. Run this team like the last title team. Hield replaces Klay, use that starting lineup. Then use Schroder like you did Poole. Podz becomes the Iguodala, and hopefully plays exactly as much as AI did. Lindy is Damian Lee. Moody is still Moody. GP2 still GP2. SloMo/JK combo offsets the JTA/OPJ combo. TJD is the Wiseman who hopefully doesnt play, and maybe try Post as the Nemo. Or dont use a Nemo at all, we cut him out of the rotation a few times that year

The blueprint is already there, but its like the guy forgot that we won with it 2 years ago. Maybe it doesnt work, but shouldnt it be plan A? The thing that already worked that the league couldnt counter? :censored:
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#98 » by tal57 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:10 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
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I think CDM was poking fun at the mixed signals more than what you brought to the table.


Yeh, I know what CDM meant, and I wasn't pushing back. I simply supported my statement with printed Kerr's quote I saw.


And I think you hit the nail on the head of what I meant too.. Kerr is saying way, way too many things and not all of them can be true

Curry has been starting and ending quarters, Kerr wants to start Schroder, but also give Schroder all the non-Steph minutes. To me that means that, since Curry's playing 30 mpg, that Schroder is in line to either lead the team in minutes every night, or he wont be closing. If Schroder starts Q1/Q3 with Steph and plays 5 minutes each time, along with the 18 non Steph minutes, thats 28 right there. If he's also closing halves thats another 8, or if its just end games its 4, and that's 32mpg, leading the team. Safe to say its probably not a good idea that a guy who's not coming from a motion offense and has joined the team 3 days ago shouldn't be leading the team in minutes

Just wish things would be simple. Run this team like the last title team. Hield replaces Klay, use that starting lineup. Then use Schroder like you did Poole. Podz becomes the Iguodala, and hopefully plays exactly as much as AI did. Lindy is Damian Lee. Moody is still Moody. GP2 still GP2. SloMo/JK combo offsets the JTA/OPJ combo. TJD is the Wiseman who hopefully doesnt play, and maybe try Post as the Nemo. Or dont use a Nemo at all, we cut him out of the rotation a few times that year

The blueprint is already there, but its like the guy forgot that we won with it 2 years ago. Maybe it doesnt work, but shouldnt it be plan A? The thing that already worked that the league couldnt counter? :censored:

This. Don't know if the injury to Melton was much more devastating effect right at the time they figured he is the pure 3 and D guy and very good complement to Curry. Or was it the easy early schedule and unsustainable hot start for players historically not known for it. Probably the combo of both plus Podz could not have been masqueraded too much longer as the PG leading the second unit regardless. Bottom line the last ten games slide was prompting for the change and I guess 2022 would be the best course that comes to mind. Especially with bringing Shroder in alone should be an improvement. Obviously it can't hurt to try.
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#99 » by tal57 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:20 pm

By the way, let's bring prompts when they are due. Prompts to CDM for bringing in and pushing for Shroder when Shroder was only an obscure idea. Hope it works out, but the try is well worth it especially given the cost.
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Re: Dennis the Menace 

Post#100 » by Anderson Hunt » Thu Dec 19, 2024 3:52 am

Why is no one talking about the lack of length of a Schroder/Curry backcourt?

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