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[cpower]

Kings is on fire sale... i am wondering if Keegan is available.

[statsman]

Warriors should look at sending Kuminga, Hield, Moody, TDJ for Cole Anthony and Carter Jr.

Gotta love trade suggestions from Warriors fans sending out several low-value players for one or two better rotation players or starters. This was usually the highlight of the Cohan days.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Kings is on fire sale... i am wondering if Keegan is available.

He regressed a lot this year

[EvanZ]

Warriors should look at sending Kuminga, Hield, Moody, TDJ for Cole Anthony and Carter Jr.

Gotta love trade suggestions from Warriors fans sending out several low-value players for one or two better rotation players or starters. This was usually the highlight of the Cohan days.

Both of you seem clueless if you'd trade Moody for Cole Anthony or WCJ.

[statsman]

Warriors should look at sending Kuminga, Hield, Moody, TDJ for Cole Anthony and Carter Jr.

Gotta love trade suggestions from Warriors fans sending out several low-value players for one or two better rotation players or starters. This was usually the highlight of the Cohan days.

Both of you seem clueless if you'd trade Moody for Cole Anthony or WCJ.

I was commenting on Kuminga, Hield, and TDJ. Just because you add a bunch of players to a trade doesn't make it a good one for the other team.

Find a post where I say the Warriors should trade Moody. On any forum. I'll wait ...

[EvanZ]

Gotta love trade suggestions from Warriors fans sending out several low-value players for one or two better rotation players or starters. This was usually the highlight of the Cohan days.

Both of you seem clueless if you'd trade Moody for Cole Anthony or WCJ.

I was commenting on Kuminga, Hield, and TDJ. Just because you add a bunch of players to a trade doesn't make it a good one for the other team.

Find a post where I say the Warriors should trade Moody. On any forum. I'll wait ...

Literally in bold. You should have explicitly said you werent' referring to Moody.

[Romulus]

Kings is on fire sale... i am wondering if Keegan is available.

What an ideal fit for the Warriors.

[TrueFan420]

Kings is on fire sale... i am wondering if Keegan is available.

He’s probably the only player not available

[Upperclass]

Warriors should look at sending Kuminga, Hield, Moody, TDJ for Cole Anthony and Carter Jr.

Gotta love trade suggestions from Warriors fans sending out several low-value players for one or two better rotation players or starters. This was usually the highlight of the Cohan days.

Both of you seem clueless if you'd trade Moody for Cole Anthony or WCJ.

Thinking Moody is more than an 8-10th man for most other playoff teams.. is certainly a choice. He gets minutes because you can put anyone who doesnt get in the way around Steph and make it workable. He's barely an nba rotation player which is why he sat the bench for years on end.

[vvoland]

Gotta love trade suggestions from Warriors fans sending out several low-value players for one or two better rotation players or starters. This was usually the highlight of the Cohan days.

Both of you seem clueless if you'd trade Moody for Cole Anthony or WCJ.

Thinking Moody is more than an 8-10th man for most other playoff teams.. is certainly a choice. He gets minutes because you can put anyone who doesnt get in the way around Steph and make it workable. He's barely an nba rotation player which is why he sat the bench for years on end.

Both seem a bit hyperbolic. He's certainly an nba rotation player - a winning one, at that. Probably shouldn't start for a team like the dubs but we don't have a ton of better options. Definitely would start for Orl, since that was brought up.

I don't think anyone would be clueless to trade moody for cole or wcj. Especially if we get a 2/3 in the offseason, getting a real backup PG and a starting level center that can kinda shoot is probably a fair trade. Moody would fit well in Orlando in the role they wanted KCP for. We have a real need for a backup pg and a center like wcj. because of the contract value, maybe orl includes a decent 2nd rounder.

[EvanZ]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

[vvoland]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

KCP this year on Orlando? sure. KCP in his prime years on the laker/den? I'm not seeing it. He had a hot stretch shooting 3s for the first time in 4 years and it lasted for like a month. He's around 34-35% on 3's outside of January and while his defense is solid, on ball, he's not making any all-defense teams. His biggest attributes are his contract, maturity, and ability to stay ready.

Since 2019-20, with the exception of this season, KCP shot 39-42% from 3 on good volume while being a top 5 defense 2/3 in the league. IF moody reaches either of those two heights, it would be wrong to trade him for a backup PG or C. IF he did that, he'd be locked into our starting lineup and would close most nights. Maybe he can still get there, it took KCP a few years to get to this level. Moody is not particularly close right now, not as a shooter and not as a defender.

[EvanZ]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

Since 2019-20, with the exception of this season, KCP shot 39-42% from 3 on good volume while being a top 5 defense 2/3 in the league. IF moody reaches either of those two heights, it would be wrong to trade him for a backup PG or C. IF he did that, he'd be locked into our starting lineup and would close most nights. Maybe he can still get there, it took KCP a few years to get to this level. Moody is not particularly close right now, not as a shooter and not as a defender.

Again, I have to ask what games are you watching bro. He is literally locked into our starting lineup and closing most nights. And now he's doing it in the playoffs. At age 22.

It's like you have KDS (Kuminga Derangement Syndrome).

[vvoland]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

Since 2019-20, with the exception of this season, KCP shot 39-42% from 3 on good volume while being a top 5 defense 2/3 in the league. IF moody reaches either of those two heights, it would be wrong to trade him for a backup PG or C. IF he did that, he'd be locked into our starting lineup and would close most nights. Maybe he can still get there, it took KCP a few years to get to this level. Moody is not particularly close right now, not as a shooter and not as a defender.

Again, I have to ask what games are you watching bro. He is literally locked into our starting lineup and closing most nights. And now he's doing it in the playoffs. At age 22.

It's like you have KDS (Kuminga Derangement Syndrome).

He only got into the starting lineup like 25 games ago and I wouldn't exactly say he's "locked in." He's also not closing "most nights." He came up big last night and I hope it continues. If we had prime KCP as our starting 2, I would feel a lot better. Again, not saying he can't get there at some point but he's pretty far from it now.

Not sure how JK factors in to this conversation.

[Upperclass]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

Youre welcome to think that but you would be unsurprisingly incorrect. Moody has none of what makes KCP successful. He's a small PF that has become a decent POA defender, but cant do much on offense other than occasionally make an open shot that isnt at the basket.

[EvanZ]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

Youre welcome to think that but you would be unsurprisingly incorrect. Moody has none of what makes KCP successful. He's a small PF that has become a decent POA defender, but cant do much on offense other than occasionally make an open shot that isnt at the basket.

Quoting this so I can come back to it later after you run away from your take.

[Onus]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

Youre welcome to think that but you would be unsurprisingly incorrect. Moody has none of what makes KCP successful. He's a small PF that has become a decent POA defender, but cant do much on offense other than occasionally make an open shot that isnt at the basket.

Isn't that what KCP is?

[Upperclass]

Clueless guys. You don’t know what you’re watching develop with Moody. He’s basically becoming KCP.

Youre welcome to think that but you would be unsurprisingly incorrect. Moody has none of what makes KCP successful. He's a small PF that has become a decent POA defender, but cant do much on offense other than occasionally make an open shot that isnt at the basket.

Isn't that what KCP is?

KCP has quicker feet, a quicker release, quicker leaper, faster, more agile, can finish in traffic, better shooter at every level, better defender, quicker hands.. much better passer, better hands, better team defender, better gameIQ etc. Not similar players at all. Aaron Wiggins is similar.

Moody is heavy legged, non-athletic (he doesnt use his leaping ability at all), below the rim finisher.. supposed accurate shooter that misses alot. Good POA defender with his strength but slow feet cause him to foul alot, gets lost on switches, doesnt rebound etc. He's post-ACL Brandon Rush. Ideally wouldnt be starting or playing 20+ minutes for a contender but the front office hasnt given them anything else to work with. He's probably the worst starting guard in the league after Corey Joseph. Moody is closer to a Josh Green.

Ty Jerome is similar player who is just better. Kerr saw it.. the FO let him walk.

[Onus]

Youre welcome to think that but you would be unsurprisingly incorrect. Moody has none of what makes KCP successful. He's a small PF that has become a decent POA defender, but cant do much on offense other than occasionally make an open shot that isnt at the basket.

Isn't that what KCP is?

KCP has quicker feet, a quicker release, quicker leaper, faster, more agile, can finish in traffic, better shooter at every level, better defender, quicker hands.. much better passer, better gameIQ etc. Not similar players at all. Aaron Wiggins is similar.

Moody is heavy legged, non-athletic (he doesnt use his leaping ability at all), below the rim finisher.. supposed accurate shooter that misses alot. Good POA defender with his strength but slow feet cause him to foul alot. Doesnt rebound etc. He's post-ACL Brandon Rush. Ideally wouldnt be starting or playing 20+ minutes for a contender but the front office hasnt given them anything else to work with. He's probably the worst starting guard in the league after Corey Joseph. Moody is closer to a Josh Green.

Ty Jerome is similar player who is just better. Kerr saw it.. the FO let him walk.

You're talking about tools not roles.

Both players are poa defenders who try to hit open shots when teams leave them. KCP had a down year shooting this year so they were essentially the same shooter. KCP is not some 1st team all nba defensive player. You can convince me that KCP is a better version than Moody which he should be since he's 31 and Moody is 22. But they're essentially playing the same role with different intangibles.

[Upperclass]

Isn't that what KCP is?

KCP has quicker feet, a quicker release, quicker leaper, faster, more agile, can finish in traffic, better shooter at every level, better defender, quicker hands.. much better passer, better gameIQ etc. Not similar players at all. Aaron Wiggins is similar.

Moody is heavy legged, non-athletic (he doesnt use his leaping ability at all), below the rim finisher.. supposed accurate shooter that misses alot. Good POA defender with his strength but slow feet cause him to foul alot. Doesnt rebound etc. He's post-ACL Brandon Rush. Ideally wouldnt be starting or playing 20+ minutes for a contender but the front office hasnt given them anything else to work with. He's probably the worst starting guard in the league after Corey Joseph. Moody is closer to a Josh Green.

Ty Jerome is similar player who is just better. Kerr saw it.. the FO let him walk.

You're talking about tools not roles.

Both players are poa defenders who try to hit open shots when teams leave them. KCP had a down year shooting this year so they were essentially the same shooter. KCP is not some 1st team all nba defensive player. You can convince me that KCP is a better version than Moody which he should be since he's 31 and Moody is 22. But they're essentially playing the same role with different intangibles.

Yes tools define role. Kerr found a role for him because he is the only one on the roster with the tools that fit the Role.. Does Hield? Does Kuminga? GPII?

By that logic he also plays the same role as current Lu Dort, Josh Hart, Prime Klay etc. He isnt GOOD.. but he is usable like most other players on the dubs roster. Not sure what the debate is here. Player A isnt similar to Player B just because they both play defense and shoot open shots.