Steve Kerr was grossly outcoached in this series

[WarriorGM]

Prejudice against what? Bad basketball players? Maybe you forgot Game 2, but this is what happened when Pat Spencer got non-garbage-time minutes and the Wolves were expecting him. I can't believe I'm even responding to this dumbassery, but here we are. This dude is barely even a legit NBA player, let alone a PLAYOFF STARTER lmfao.

The dumbassery comes from not looking at the lineups.

Here's what the Spencer lineups in that Game 2 were:

Spencer, Kuminga, Moody, Looney, GPII - None of the guys I call the 4 fundamental players in the lineup. As I mentioned before the entire season has shown that Spencer and Kuminga are the worst or near worst pairing for each other and Moody ain't great for Kuminga either. -10 in 3 minutes shouldn't be a surprise. This is the kind of lineup from Kerr that makes saying he's setting them up to fail justifiable.

Hield, Green, Spencer, Knox, TJD - Better since it has Hield and Green but you still have Knox and TJD. I'm guessing this was the first time that lineup was played all season. -2 in 1 minute.

Hield, Butler, Spencer, Knox, TJD - Has Hield and Butler but you still have Knox and TJD. I'm guessing this was the first time that lineup was played all season. -2 in 2 minutes.

Butler, Spencer, GPII, Moody, TJD - Only has Butler among the fundamental 4 and also has TJD. -3 in 2 minutes.

Green, Spencer, GPII, Moody, TJD - Only has Green among the fundamental 4 and also has TJD. -3 in 1 minute.

Green, Spencer, GPII, Kuminga, TJD - Only has Green among the fundamental 4 and also has TJD. +3 in 2 minutes.

Spencer, Key, Knox, Moody, Santos - None of the fundamental 4. -3 in 4 minutes.

Spencer didn't get to play in a lineup with the team's best players being a majority and he had TJD in nearly all of them. Mind you TJD was negative in the other lineups he was in in that game. True Spencer's numbers in this game don't give an argument for him to play more but apparently Kerr thought it was enough to start TJD in the succeeding games.

On the other hand in Game 1 Spencer had the following to argue in his favor:

Hield, Butler, Spencer, GPII, Looney - 2 of the fundamental 4. +6 in 1 minute.

Hield, Green, Spencer, GPII, Looney - 2 of the fundamental 4. +4 in 1 minute.

But after Game 1 we never saw those lineups again. For a true test of Spencer's playability or not try those.

Again lmao. You know why Spencer can't play with Draymond and Jimmy, other than the fact that he's a g-league player who's better at lacrosse than basketball?TWENTY PERCENT 3-POINT SHOOTER. He's literally the worst 3-point shooter on the team, out of anyone that's actually attempted any. Just stop man. If you aren't trolling, then you're wildly delusional.

In the regular season Spencer was a 22% 3-point shooter. In these playoffs though he is a 50% 3-point shooter, second highest on the team behind Santos. For comparison in the regular season Podziemski and Moody were 37% 3-point shooters. In the playoffs those two are 30% 3-point shooters.

Spencer is as you say a lacrosse legend. You seem to deride him for it. I think it is big plus for situations such as this. I'm willing to take the risk that part of the reason for his status in that other sport is he's a big game player.

[Impuniti]

Kerr tanked the series so Curry wouldnt have to field questions about the possiblity of him returning.

Once he went down, they were never winning the series. All you need to do is look towards game 2 when they got it to within 7.. yet benched everyone right after to extend the lead to 18. Kuminga is his best scorer, but starts the game on the bench to spot the Wolves a lead etc etc.

I think that has more to do with the fact that Kerr is objectively a TERRIBLE in game coach. He has his set before the game, and he almost never changes it regardless of what's happening on the floor. Low to non-existant flexibility.

Best game to game manager in a series though.

Kerr has 4 Championships and a 5th finals visit. He's one of the best in game coaches in the NBA if not the best.

And that doesn't change what I said either. He is one of the best coaches in the NBA and has won 4 championships. But he also is a terrible in game manager. He's not flexible when things change (how many times is Steph removed from a game when he's on a complete heater instead of leaving him on for an extra minute?, or if someone completely sucks, he keeps playing them since that was part of the plan in game?).

Kerr makes in game adjustment like he's chatGPT. He doesn't have the data from today but uses information based on previous days to make his decisions and stick to it.

[powerball1373]

The dumbassery comes from not looking at the lineups.

Here's what the Spencer lineups in that Game 2 were:

Spencer, Kuminga, Moody, Looney, GPII - None of the guys I call the 4 fundamental players in the lineup. As I mentioned before the entire season has shown that Spencer and Kuminga are the worst or near worst pairing for each other and Moody ain't great for Kuminga either. -10 in 3 minutes shouldn't be a surprise. This is the kind of lineup from Kerr that makes saying he's setting them up to fail justifiable.

Hield, Green, Spencer, Knox, TJD - Better since it has Hield and Green but you still have Knox and TJD. I'm guessing this was the first time that lineup was played all season. -2 in 1 minute.

Hield, Butler, Spencer, Knox, TJD - Has Hield and Butler but you still have Knox and TJD. I'm guessing this was the first time that lineup was played all season. -2 in 2 minutes.

Butler, Spencer, GPII, Moody, TJD - Only has Butler among the fundamental 4 and also has TJD. -3 in 2 minutes.

Green, Spencer, GPII, Moody, TJD - Only has Green among the fundamental 4 and also has TJD. -3 in 1 minute.

Green, Spencer, GPII, Kuminga, TJD - Only has Green among the fundamental 4 and also has TJD. +3 in 2 minutes.

Spencer, Key, Knox, Moody, Santos - None of the fundamental 4. -3 in 4 minutes.

Spencer didn't get to play in a lineup with the team's best players being a majority and he had TJD in nearly all of them. Mind you TJD was negative in the other lineups he was in in that game. True Spencer's numbers in this game don't give an argument for him to play more but apparently Kerr thought it was enough to start TJD in the succeeding games.

On the other hand in Game 1 Spencer had the following to argue in his favor:

Hield, Butler, Spencer, GPII, Looney - 2 of the fundamental 4. +6 in 1 minute.

Hield, Green, Spencer, GPII, Looney - 2 of the fundamental 4. +4 in 1 minute.

But after Game 1 we never saw those lineups again. For a true test of Spencer's playability or not try those.

Again lmao. You know why Spencer can't play with Draymond and Jimmy, other than the fact that he's a g-league player who's better at lacrosse than basketball?TWENTY PERCENT 3-POINT SHOOTER. He's literally the worst 3-point shooter on the team, out of anyone that's actually attempted any. Just stop man. If you aren't trolling, then you're wildly delusional.

In the regular season Spencer was a 22% 3-point shooter. In these playoffs though he is a 50% 3-point shooter, second highest on the team behind Santos. For comparison in the regular season Podziemski and Moody were 37% 3-point shooters. In the playoffs those two are 30% 3-point shooters.

Spencer is as you say a lacrosse legend. You seem to deride him for it. I think it is big plus for situations such as this. I'm willing to take the risk that part of the reason for his status in that other sport is he's a big game player.

Imagine using a 2-shot sample size to say someone is a 50% 3-point shooter for the postseason.

[Nvnervous45]

With curry out and with podz and moody's outside shooting like Wayne "tree" rollins, we had no shot (no pun intended). Kerr can't coach someone to play like curry or talk our role players out of shooting slumps. It's lack of talent, not coaching that has gotten us out of this series.

[Nvnervous45]

With curry out and with podz and moody's outside shooting like Wayne "tree" rollins, we had no shot (no pun intended) to win this series. Kerr can't coach someone to play like curry or talk our role players out of shooting slumps. It's lack of talent, not coaching that has gotten us out of this series.

[vvoland]

I think that has more to do with the fact that Kerr is objectively a TERRIBLE in game coach. He has his set before the game, and he almost never changes it regardless of what's happening on the floor. Low to non-existant flexibility.

Best game to game manager in a series though.

Kerr has 4 Championships and a 5th finals visit. He's one of the best in game coaches in the NBA if not the best.

And that doesn't change what I said either. He is one of the best coaches in the NBA and has won 4 championships. But he also is a terrible in game manager. He's not flexible when things change (how many times is Steph removed from a game when he's on a complete heater instead of leaving him on for an extra minute?, or if someone completely sucks, he keeps playing them since that was part of the plan in game?).

Kerr makes in game adjustment like he's chatGPT. He doesn't have the data from today but uses information based on previous days to make his decisions and stick to it.

Why were we so good coming out of halftime almost every year he's been the coach? If he's terrible in-game, I would think we'd be getting killed in the 2nd half or 3rd quarters and I don't believe that's been the case.

[WarriorGM]

Again lmao. You know why Spencer can't play with Draymond and Jimmy, other than the fact that he's a g-league player who's better at lacrosse than basketball?TWENTY PERCENT 3-POINT SHOOTER. He's literally the worst 3-point shooter on the team, out of anyone that's actually attempted any. Just stop man. If you aren't trolling, then you're wildly delusional.

In the regular season Spencer was a 22% 3-point shooter. In these playoffs though he is a 50% 3-point shooter, second highest on the team behind Santos. For comparison in the regular season Podziemski and Moody were 37% 3-point shooters. In the playoffs those two are 30% 3-point shooters.

Spencer is as you say a lacrosse legend. You seem to deride him for it. I think it is big plus for situations such as this. I'm willing to take the risk that part of the reason for his status in that other sport is he's a big game player.

Imagine using a 2-shot sample size to say someone is a 50% 3-point shooter for the postseason.

Your 22% number for the regular season isn't based on significant sample size either.

Spencer distributes the ball. Guess who he pairs well with? Players who benefit from getting the ball when they get open. Good shooters. A player like Hield. If you are playing Spencer correctly he'll be paired with one or both of Hield and Steph all the time.

[powerball1373]

In the regular season Spencer was a 22% 3-point shooter. In these playoffs though he is a 50% 3-point shooter, second highest on the team behind Santos. For comparison in the regular season Podziemski and Moody were 37% 3-point shooters. In the playoffs those two are 30% 3-point shooters.

Spencer is as you say a lacrosse legend. You seem to deride him for it. I think it is big plus for situations such as this. I'm willing to take the risk that part of the reason for his status in that other sport is he's a big game player.

Imagine using a 2-shot sample size to say someone is a 50% 3-point shooter for the postseason.

Your 22% number for the regular season isn't based on significant sample size either.

Spencer distributes the ball. Guess who he pairs well with? Players who benefit from getting the ball when they get open. Good shooters. A player like Hield. If you are playing Spencer correctly he'll be paired with one or both of Hield and Steph all the time.

22% was based on a lot more than TWO shots lmao. And you're wrong - if you're playing Spencer correctly, he'll be paired with a nice cushion on the bench. Otherwise, you're not a serious team.

[WarriorGM]

Imagine using a 2-shot sample size to say someone is a 50% 3-point shooter for the postseason.

Your 22% number for the regular season isn't based on significant sample size either.

Spencer distributes the ball. Guess who he pairs well with? Players who benefit from getting the ball when they get open. Good shooters. A player like Hield. If you are playing Spencer correctly he'll be paired with one or both of Hield and Steph all the time.

22% was based on a lot more than TWO shots lmao. And you're wrong - if you're playing Spencer correctly, he'll be paired with a nice cushion on the bench. Otherwise, you're not a serious team.

22% was based on 22 shots. Ask your statistics teacher what a decent sample size is.

If you are correct about Spencer then you aren't a serious team because a serious team should have a player who can contribute something from the bench.

[powerball1373]

Your 22% number for the regular season isn't based on significant sample size either.

Spencer distributes the ball. Guess who he pairs well with? Players who benefit from getting the ball when they get open. Good shooters. A player like Hield. If you are playing Spencer correctly he'll be paired with one or both of Hield and Steph all the time.

22% was based on a lot more than TWO shots lmao. And you're wrong - if you're playing Spencer correctly, he'll be paired with a nice cushion on the bench. Otherwise, you're not a serious team.

22% was based on 22 shots. Ask your statistics teacher what a decent sample size is.

If you are correct about Spencer then you aren't a serious team because a serious team should have a player who can contribute something from the bench.

Is 22 a lot more than 2? Yes or no?

Correct. A serious team doesn't need a contribution from their 12th man, let alone asking him to start a must-win game. Just admit you know nothing about basketball lol. The only role Pat Spencer would play on any of the real contenders is garbage time. Hell, he probably wouldn't even make their teams.

[WarriorGM]

22% was based on a lot more than TWO shots lmao. And you're wrong - if you're playing Spencer correctly, he'll be paired with a nice cushion on the bench. Otherwise, you're not a serious team.

22% was based on 22 shots. Ask your statistics teacher what a decent sample size is.

If you are correct about Spencer then you aren't a serious team because a serious team should have a player who can contribute something from the bench.

Is 22 a lot more than 2? Yes or no?

Correct. A serious team doesn't need a contribution from their 12th man, let alone asking him to start a must-win game. Just admit you know nothing about basketball lol. The only role Pat Spencer would play on any of the real contenders is garbage time. Hell, he probably wouldn't even make their teams.

Does the playoffs count more than the regular season? Yes or no?

I know enough about basketball to have backed Curry for serious championship contention after KD left while nearly everyone else was speaking in the past tense. Even if it wasn't a direct choice in effect this team ended up choosing Spencer over Ty Jerome. I want to see how it turns out played out.

[Impuniti]

Kerr has 4 Championships and a 5th finals visit. He's one of the best in game coaches in the NBA if not the best.

And that doesn't change what I said either. He is one of the best coaches in the NBA and has won 4 championships. But he also is a terrible in game manager. He's not flexible when things change (how many times is Steph removed from a game when he's on a complete heater instead of leaving him on for an extra minute?, or if someone completely sucks, he keeps playing them since that was part of the plan in game?).

Kerr makes in game adjustment like he's chatGPT. He doesn't have the data from today but uses information based on previous days to make his decisions and stick to it.

Why were we so good coming out of halftime almost every year he's been the coach? If he's terrible in-game, I would think we'd be getting killed in the 2nd half or 3rd quarters and I don't believe that's been the case.

Stephen Curry. He sets the table and tone. It's also part of the reason the Warriors are so lackadaisical or poor in first quarters throughout this run, because of Curry's personality. The team takes the personality of its star.

[powerball1373]

22% was based on 22 shots. Ask your statistics teacher what a decent sample size is.

If you are correct about Spencer then you aren't a serious team because a serious team should have a player who can contribute something from the bench.

Is 22 a lot more than 2? Yes or no?

Correct. A serious team doesn't need a contribution from their 12th man, let alone asking him to start a must-win game. Just admit you know nothing about basketball lol. The only role Pat Spencer would play on any of the real contenders is garbage time. Hell, he probably wouldn't even make their teams.

Does the playoffs count more than the regular season? Yes or no?

I know enough about basketball to have backed Curry for serious championship contention after KD left while nearly everyone else was speaking in the past tense. Even if it wasn't a direct choice in effect this team ended up choosing Spencer over Ty Jerome. I want to see how it turns out played out.

No - a 2-shot sample in garbage time of playoff games does not count more than a 22-shot sample in the regular season.

Oh and FYI - he shot 23.5% from 3 in his one year at Northwestern, on 1.6 attempts per game (12/51). Dude couldn't even make college 3s at a respectable clip and you want to talk about 50% on 2 shots

[WarriorGM]

Is 22 a lot more than 2? Yes or no?

Correct. A serious team doesn't need a contribution from their 12th man, let alone asking him to start a must-win game. Just admit you know nothing about basketball lol. The only role Pat Spencer would play on any of the real contenders is garbage time. Hell, he probably wouldn't even make their teams.

Does the playoffs count more than the regular season? Yes or no?

I know enough about basketball to have backed Curry for serious championship contention after KD left while nearly everyone else was speaking in the past tense. Even if it wasn't a direct choice in effect this team ended up choosing Spencer over Ty Jerome. I want to see how it turns out played out.

No - a 2-shot sample in garbage time of playoff games does not count more than a 22-shot sample in the regular season.

Oh and FYI - he shot 23.5% from 3 in his one year at Northwestern, on 1.6 attempts per game (12/51). Dude couldn't even make college 3s at a respectable clip and you want to talk about 50% on 2 shots

Save the image for Steve Kerr if he's actually starting TJD again.

[powerball1373]

Does the playoffs count more than the regular season? Yes or no?

I know enough about basketball to have backed Curry for serious championship contention after KD left while nearly everyone else was speaking in the past tense. Even if it wasn't a direct choice in effect this team ended up choosing Spencer over Ty Jerome. I want to see how it turns out played out.

No - a 2-shot sample in garbage time of playoff games does not count more than a 22-shot sample in the regular season.

Oh and FYI - he shot 23.5% from 3 in his one year at Northwestern, on 1.6 attempts per game (12/51). Dude couldn't even make college 3s at a respectable clip and you want to talk about 50% on 2 shots

Save the image for Steve Kerr if he's actually starting TJD again.

TJD looks pretty decent so far

[cpower]

just a few stats show how terrible Steve is doing his job :

Playoffs:
JK -11.6 on/off
TJD -9.6 on/off
GP2 -12 on/off
Santos +9.5 on/off
Looney +3 on/off

g3,4 we heavily lean on JK/TJD/GP2 and not enough Santos Looney

[Upperclass]

Kerr tanked the series so Curry wouldnt have to field questions about the possiblity of him returning.

Once he went down, they were never winning the series. All you need to do is look towards game 2 when they got it to within 7.. yet benched everyone right after to extend the lead to 18. Kuminga is his best scorer, but starts the game on the bench to spot the Wolves a lead etc etc.

He clearly tanked the games

[ILOVEIT]

For all the options he is going with TJD who is statistically one of the worst players in the league. He overused Podz and GP2 and should have played Moody and Santos a little more. Looney was one of the best players in this game and he never saw the floor again.. I know this team is not good enough to beat the wolves in a series but Kerr has been doing a lot of random stuff lately. He said we will win by defense then play heavy TJD mins who is the worst defender on the team...like wtf was that?

Are you kidding me? Curry was out. Podz and Buddy and Jimmy....had nothing.

I think he blew it keeping Kuminga on the bench AS THE SEASON wound down. He should have played him into shape. But come on, Draymond was gassed, young dudes had nothing to offer, Post is a first year dude, Jimmy played as if he was still hurt (or just acient).

Can't go anywhere near blaming Kerr.

[SpreeS]

Kerr motion offence! Curry got injured, did someone see changes in Kerr offence system in next 4 games? I think here everybody understands what Kerr motion offence is about. But w/o Curry this system is useless. Could we get easy layups when we playing w/o shooters/spacers against Gobert/Randle/McDaniel/Reid...and what kind of open shooters we could find on 3P line except one player Hield? This system lost its meaning from the same minute as Curry got injured...

Did Kerr try to adapt his system to best his scorers Butler and Kuminga. Both tried to score mostly on isos against Minny's bigs. Butler could hardly outplay Gobert and totally disappeared against Reid/McDaniel/Randle. So why Kerr didnt try to create mismatches for Butler and Kuminga? These two shooting from corner 3P is something else and every shot was a win for Minny. 22 3P shots from Green/Kuminga/Santos/Butler and Santos has the highest 3P % .330 in RS from all 4...This is Kerr motion offence.

12 players ratotion in elimination game! It shows only one thing, he doesnt know even after 82 regular season games the best possible units for own system. Kerr was pushing random all possible buttons and was waiting miracle to happen. In first 13min of the game he used 11 players...Some units were first time on the floor this season.

Davis...He started all halves in last 3 games and all of them were negative. What the hell did Kerr want to prove?

Kerr and Green were pushing a tempo...I am not basketball genius(they are and gets millions dollars for that) but this was straight way to hell. We wont outscore Minny that way and our leaders are old so we wont outrun them. Randle and Reid run faster than our guards. So what is the point?

[Sandy333]

This was supposed to be championship winning team, I would expect them to have won atleast 1out 4. Offense was putrid, and as the series progressed Wolves offense improved, but gsw regressed.