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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#801 » by Mylie10 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:02 am

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Onus wrote:Watching that clippers mavs game wiseman isn’t finishing that game.


No rookie would finish the game. He would start it though


Maybe, but Kerr is a matchup coach. Is his thing. And he’s never had centers worthy of playing in closing games.

But depending on your roster is who finishes games. Either Ibaka or Gasol finish games, so we’d need to matchup.

AD finishes games, so we’d need to matchup.

Porzingas usually finishes.

Adabayo finishes games right?

Brook Lopez, Giannis, both huge.

I mean, Wiseman can make free throws, so he’s not a liability there. It’s simply the fact that if we are playing Houston and their midget lineup, then we probably have Draymond at center.

I got news for you, Houston is not the barometer
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#802 » by ShayDee » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:07 am

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Onus wrote:Watching that clippers mavs game wiseman isn’t finishing that game.


No rookie would finish the game. He would start it though


Maybe, but Kerr is a matchup coach. Is his thing. And he’s never had centers worthy of playing in closing games.

But depending on your roster is who finishes games. Either Ibaka or Gasol finish games, so we’d need to matchup.

AD finishes games, so we’d need to matchup.

Porzingas usually finishes.

Adabayo finishes games right?

Brook Lopez, Giannis, both huge.

I mean, Wiseman can make free throws, so he’s not a liability there. It’s simply the fact that if we are playing Houston and their midget lineup, then we probably have Draymond at center.

I got news for you, Houston is not the barometer


Some guys that can finish for us. I think Rudy Gay, Ibaka, Iggy(if we bring him back), Dragic?, Tony Snell maybe, Ingles, Covinton(if rockets blow up), These guys can be had without giving up our #2 pick. I think Rudy Gay is the best one
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#803 » by Onus » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:18 am

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Onus wrote:Watching that clippers mavs game wiseman isn’t finishing that game.


No rookie would finish the game. He would start it though


Maybe, but Kerr is a matchup coach. Is his thing. And he’s never had centers worthy of playing in closing games.

But depending on your roster is who finishes games. Either Ibaka or Gasol finish games, so we’d need to matchup.

AD finishes games, so we’d need to matchup.

Porzingas usually finishes.

Adabayo finishes games right?

Brook Lopez, Giannis, both huge.

I mean, Wiseman can make free throws, so he’s not a liability there. It’s simply the fact that if we are playing Houston and their midget lineup, then we probably have Draymond at center.

I got news for you, Houston is not the barometer

Did Houston play against Dallas or the clippers tonight? What does Houston have anything to do with the game against the clippers and Mavericks?

The fact is zubac was getting killed defensively and doc had to get him out of there. Kp probably would’ve posed the same issues in that game way too stiff to guard anyone out on the perimeter. He was getting killed against dame. Wiseman wouldn’t have matched up well at the end. Can he matchup with some of the others sure. But the game tonight ... it would’ve been really tough on him rookie or 10 year vet. I’m not sure there was a center that could play other than giannis and maybe ad. I don’t think embiid would’ve and we’ve seen gobert get played off the floor and Jokic. I guess bam would’ve maybe ibaka. Ibaka has played well against the nets 5 out offense but against elite talent we’ll see.

I agree wiseman would start. The question for him or any center defensively is how can they stay on the floor in that type of game.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#804 » by Mylie10 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:40 am

Add Gobert and Jokic to the big man finishing lineups.

The bottom line is that you need to be able to matchup at all times, if possible. Whether it’s big or small.

Imo Wiseman gives us tons of length and he’s going to be an All Star. Again my opinion.

And as important as the final minutes are, the rest of the game is pretty important as well.
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Post#805 » by Onus » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:23 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Add Gobert and Jokic to the big man finishing lineups.

The bottom line is that you need to be able to matchup at all times, if possible. Whether it’s big or small.

Imo Wiseman gives us tons of length and he’s going to be an All Star. Again my opinion.

And as important as the final minutes are, the rest of the game is pretty important as well.


Yes that’s the point of my observation. Wiseman will help us for certain matchups but is he matchup proof, in that no matter what the matchups are he will still be on the floor?
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Post#806 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:45 am

Did Portland coaching outsmart themselves? I think they felt clever going with two bigs...which worked at first. But then the spacing for Portland with two bigs was crap. Maybe Portland should have stayed small the entire time?
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Post#807 » by DAWill1128 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 am

Mylie is right it's match up dependent. Going small or going big is not the route for every team. The Lakers go big and are destroying teams because they block everything in sight, dominate the boards, get points in the paint, and all this allows them to play tight on shooters. If we don't have a legit 7 footer it could really ugly against the Lakers quick. Can we run the Lakers off the court? Yeah, for 8 minutes not the full 48.

With the Rockets of course it's the opposite. I would watch the likely Rockets vs Lakers series really closely because it will be the ultimate test of big ball vs small ball in the West. I will give D'antoni credit, he has turned guys like House, Green, and McLemore into crunch time guys.

I wouldn't put much on the Clippers attempt at small ball, those guys lost and Porzingis didn't play.

Personally I would love to see Paschall continue to develop and be that 5th guy in a sub the center out lineup. Guys intense and attacks the hoop like a madman when he gets going, I want that in crunch time.
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Post#808 » by Mylie10 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:40 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:Pacers might move on from Nate McMillan. It’s weird because he seems to get teams to a good spot and then they get rid of him. I feel like the Pacers have over achieved the last couple years.

I wonder if he’s just tough to deal with on a daily basis.


Looks like I was wrong. Pacers stepped up and extended Nate. Props to him.


Lol, now they fired Nate haha

Time to trade with the Pacers or use that TPE. Because they are obviously a train wreck in the front office.
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Post#809 » by GQ Hot Dog » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:57 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:Pacers might move on from Nate McMillan. It’s weird because he seems to get teams to a good spot and then they get rid of him. I feel like the Pacers have over achieved the last couple years.

I wonder if he’s just tough to deal with on a daily basis.


Looks like I was wrong. Pacers stepped up and extended Nate. Props to him.


Lol, now they fired Nate haha

Time to trade with the Pacers or use that TPE. Because they are obviously a train wreck in the front office.


The speculation is that the extension was a golden parachute of sorts. They knew they were going to fire him when they gave it to him, they wanted to pad his bank account on the way out. It sure would endear them to the coaching fraternity if so.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#810 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:06 pm

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Looks like I was wrong. Pacers stepped up and extended Nate. Props to him.


Lol, now they fired Nate haha

Time to trade with the Pacers or use that TPE. Because they are obviously a train wreck in the front office.


The speculation is that the extension was a golden parachute of sorts. They knew they were going to fire him when they gave it to him, they wanted to pad his bank account on the way out. It sure would endear them to the coaching fraternity if so.


I would think, golden parachute or not, they wouldn't make the move without a specific plan in place, and if it's a retread coach that makes it pretty likely it was a mistake.
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Post#811 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:59 pm

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Lol, now they fired Nate haha

Time to trade with the Pacers or use that TPE. Because they are obviously a train wreck in the front office.


The speculation is that the extension was a golden parachute of sorts. They knew they were going to fire him when they gave it to him, they wanted to pad his bank account on the way out. It sure would endear them to the coaching fraternity if so.


I would think, golden parachute or not, they wouldn't make the move without a specific plan in place, and if it's a retread coach that makes it pretty likely it was a mistake.


Yeah, who knows. Maybe McMillan and Pritchard got into a screaming match in the locker room after the sweep. There's also speculation they demanded he get new assistants and he refused.

McMillan is a solid coach that gets a lot of RS wins but every time I see his teams in the playoffs they're getting badly outcoached.
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Post#812 » by Scoots1994 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:18 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:Yeah, who knows. Maybe McMillan and Pritchard got into a screaming match in the locker room after the sweep. There's also speculation they demanded he get new assistants and he refused.

McMillan is a solid coach that gets a lot of RS wins but every time I see his teams in the playoffs they're getting badly outcoached.


Mark Jackson was asked what assistant coaches were his ideal assistants, he didn't want to change, they gave him one more year and let him go when the results got worse. In Jackson's case he wanted all of the credit for the team doing well and realized better assistants took away from some of "his credit".

No you think Nate was similar?
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Post#814 » by superunknown » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:02 pm

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Coxy wrote:Doncic is a monster. He and Zinga are perfect together. If hey can land a 3rd star type, they'll be title contenders for the next decade. Amazing how quickly Doncic got elite.


the real question here is: will the unicorn stay healthy enough for the next decade?
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Post#815 » by Mylie10 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:21 pm

One of the things I love about the bubble is the fact that there aren’t cameramen sitting on the floor under the basket. Also no fans obviously. I have seen guys go way harder to the basket without the fear of landing onto somebody sitting near by.

I know those tickets are expensive, but dang I prefer dudes going all out without fear versus making some court side bucks.
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Post#816 » by Onus » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:11 am

I can’t wait for lakers vs rockets
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Post#817 » by Mylie10 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:50 am

RIP Uncle Cliffy

He would have fit in beautifully in today’s game.
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Post#818 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:39 am

Mylie10 wrote:RIP Uncle Cliffy

He would have fit in beautifully in today’s game.


He would have been absolutely perfect. One of my all time favorites.
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Post#819 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:54 am

Russell Westbrook has always been over-rated (7 years under .300 from 3, but keeps chucking, never had a TS% of .500) but he's really fallen off this year ... still stat chases but he's clearly lost a step.
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Post#820 » by wco81 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:50 am

Murray and Mitchell are both shooting the lights out, very Curry-like.

Murray is taking tough step backs and pull ups.

Last year in the playoffs, he didn't shoot anything like this.

So he's hot or has he reached another level? If the Nuggets win game 7 and face the Clippers, it will be tougher test for him.

He's making high-difficulty shots which may not be sustainable. We shall see though.

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