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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#821 » by cdubbz » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:39 pm

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azwfan wrote:We should be doing that now (well after hes back from injury).


Totally on board, we need another good player in the mix next year. Gordon’s a good defender who can pass, rebound, and finish in traffic. I wouldn’t wait to long if I am Myers.

What gives you the confidence the other side is eager to trade Gordon and if the are, wouldn't they want and possibly get a better package than Oubre and Wanamaker.
I don't understand the proposals when fans want to deal their garbage for other team's quality.

Clippers fans are known for that. Go on their forums, they want the quality player to combine with Leonard and PG. They don't have 1st round picks for like the next millennium. So to get that guy, every proposal they have now is some kind of combination of 3-4 guys from their 10 to 15 roster. Or added to that a washed up veteran or the player that has seriously bad season and they are really soured on.


Not sure if Orlando can expect a ton back for AG to be honest. like someone said we throw in a FRP and deal seems fair -- Kelly Oubre Jr is capable of 15-18ppg and good defense. Add a pick and Orlando could be happy. AG hasn't helped them do anything.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#822 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:31 am

Warriors need big man depth and shooting...and of course there is zero desire to part with Wiseman.

Oubre, Wannamaker (bring of J Linn to replace him), Jordan Poole, Chris, 2 future 2nd round picks
for
Kevin Love

Curry, Wiggins, Love, Green, Wiseman.
J Linn, Paschall, Lee, JTA.

Warriors IMMEDIATELY become smarter...Love has a great hoops IQ.
Immediately a better scoring and passing team.
Bigger team, better offensive rebounding team.
Love stretches the floor.

IMO this is the only move THIS year that will give Warriors a legit shot at a title or at least WCF appearance.
The key is they don't have to include Wiseman OR Wiggins.

Cavs get out from under loves salary and can resign Oubre if they like him.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#823 » by xdrta+ » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:52 am

ILOVEIT wrote:Warriors need big man depth and shooting...and of course there is zero desire to part with Wiseman.

Oubre, Wannamaker (bring of J Linn to replace him), Jordan Poole, Chris, 2 future 2nd round picks
for
Kevin Love

Curry, Wiggins, Love, Green, Wiseman.
J Linn, Paschall, Lee, JTA.

Warriors IMMEDIATELY become smarter...Love has a great hoops IQ.
Immediately a better scoring and passing team.
Bigger team, better offensive rebounding team.
Love stretches the floor.

IMO this is the only move THIS year that will give Warriors a legit shot at a title or at least WCF appearance.
The key is they don't have to include Wiseman OR Wiggins.

Cavs get out from under loves salary and can resign Oubre if they like him.


You'd have to add Looney to get to the salary match.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#824 » by tarantism » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:53 am

ILOVEIT wrote:Warriors need big man depth and shooting...and of course there is zero desire to part with Wiseman.

Oubre, Wannamaker (bring of J Linn to replace him), Jordan Poole, Chris, 2 future 2nd round picks
for
Kevin Love

Curry, Wiggins, Love, Green, Wiseman.
J Linn, Paschall, Lee, JTA.

Warriors IMMEDIATELY become smarter...Love has a great hoops IQ.
Immediately a better scoring and passing team.
Bigger team, better offensive rebounding team.
Love stretches the floor.

IMO this is the only move THIS year that will give Warriors a legit shot at a title or at least WCF appearance.
The key is they don't have to include Wiseman OR Wiggins.

Cavs get out from under loves salary and can resign Oubre if they like him.
Not Kevin Love again :/

1. He's 6'8", 2. He's washed and even if he wasn't 3. He has a gigantic contract and 4. He can't stay healthy.

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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#825 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:39 pm

tarantism wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Warriors need big man depth and shooting...and of course there is zero desire to part with Wiseman.

Oubre, Wannamaker (bring of J Linn to replace him), Jordan Poole, Chris, 2 future 2nd round picks
for
Kevin Love

Curry, Wiggins, Love, Green, Wiseman.
J Linn, Paschall, Lee, JTA.

Warriors IMMEDIATELY become smarter...Love has a great hoops IQ.
Immediately a better scoring and passing team.
Bigger team, better offensive rebounding team.
Love stretches the floor.

IMO this is the only move THIS year that will give Warriors a legit shot at a title or at least WCF appearance.
The key is they don't have to include Wiseman OR Wiggins.

Cavs get out from under loves salary and can resign Oubre if they like him.
Not Kevin Love again :/

1. He's 6'8", 2. He's washed and even if he wasn't 3. He has a gigantic contract and 4. He can't stay healthy.

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"What the Warriors need now...is LOVE...sweet Love....hehe".

I think he's a talented stretch PF that is languishing on a really crappy team. Maybe it's a stretch...but I think on the Warriors he is motivated again...fits the age timeline for Curry and the rest.

We KNOW what we have with Oubre and the other cannon fodder...and that's not very good. I'd take a shot at maximizing the Curry window.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#826 » by Impuniti » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:41 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:
tarantism wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Warriors need big man depth and shooting...and of course there is zero desire to part with Wiseman.

Oubre, Wannamaker (bring of J Linn to replace him), Jordan Poole, Chris, 2 future 2nd round picks
for
Kevin Love

Curry, Wiggins, Love, Green, Wiseman.
J Linn, Paschall, Lee, JTA.

Warriors IMMEDIATELY become smarter...Love has a great hoops IQ.
Immediately a better scoring and passing team.
Bigger team, better offensive rebounding team.
Love stretches the floor.

IMO this is the only move THIS year that will give Warriors a legit shot at a title or at least WCF appearance.
The key is they don't have to include Wiseman OR Wiggins.

Cavs get out from under loves salary and can resign Oubre if they like him.
Not Kevin Love again :/

1. He's 6'8", 2. He's washed and even if he wasn't 3. He has a gigantic contract and 4. He can't stay healthy.

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"What the Warriors need now...is LOVE...sweet Love....hehe".

I think he's a talented stretch PF that is languishing on a really crappy team. Maybe it's a stretch...but I think on the Warriors he is motivated again...fits the age timeline for Curry and the rest.

We KNOW what we have with Oubre and the other cannon fodder...and that's not very good. I'd take a shot at maximizing the Curry window.

Love is a horrendous defender though. The team will likely average 4-5 more points and will probably concede 4-5 at the other end.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#827 » by tarantism » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:02 pm

I'm actually pretty intrigued by Aaron Gordon for Oubre. I hadn't thought about the idea of Orlando doing a reboot and tanking this year. I came up with a SAS/GSW/ORL three teamer:

GSW gets: Aaron Gordon, Lonnie Walker

This fills both needs for the Warriors. Gordon slides right in with the starters and replicates everything Oubre brings but at a higher level and in a more team-centric way. Walker can back up Steph and also play along side him in two guard lineups. Both players are signed through next year. Three players outgoing means they can sign JTA to a normal roster spot.

SAS gets: Nikola Vucevic, Brad Wanamaker

The Spurs upgrade from Aldridge to an all-star and PERFECT fit in Vuc. They are already in playoff position but adding Vuc makes them a little dangerous. Wanamaker is just salary filler.

Orlando gets: Kelly Oubre, LaMarcus Aldridge, Jordan Poole, 2021 SA 1st, 2023 SA 1st, 2025 GSW 1st

Orlando saves 4 million now, activates a hard rebuild, get $41 million off the books for next season (+17m from Fournier expiring) and a good look at Oubre and Poole. Not to mention a trio of first round picks (with protections) that help them retool in the next few seasons.
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Post#828 » by donkeylips » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:59 pm

Warriors can’t trade their 2025 first.
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Post#829 » by tarantism » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:00 pm

donkeylips wrote:Warriors can’t trade their 2025 first.
Sad. Pick another one then.

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Post#830 » by donkeylips » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:01 pm

2022 or 2027
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Post#831 » by tarantism » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:08 pm

donkeylips wrote:2022 or 2027
Yes

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Post#832 » by killacalijatt » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:19 pm

I’m open to anyone that isn’t Oubre. Miss those smart IQ players like Iggy and Livingston.
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Post#833 » by DAWill1128 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:34 pm

Pistons are considering a Blake Griffin buyout. We got the DPE to offer him which is better than other teams minimums. I would take Blake because we just need more offensive talent, no way around it. Is he a great fit? No, but him and Curry would probably play well together.

The Celtics have a pretty big Trade Exception from the Hayward trade, they might outbid us. I think situationally he might just go to the Lakers on the minimum to fill in for AD for the time being.
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Post#834 » by whatisacenter » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:05 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:Pistons are considering a Blake Griffin buyout. We got the DPE to offer him which is better than other teams minimums. I would take Blake because we just need more offensive talent, no way around it. Is he a great fit? No, but him and Curry would probably play well together.

The Celtics have a pretty big Trade Exception from the Hayward trade, they might outbid us. I think situationally he might just go to the Lakers on the minimum to fill in for AD for the time being.


interesting but Blake physically just seams shot...my son told me that he hasn't even dunked this season and I couldn't believe it but it's true!
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Post#835 » by xdrta+ » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:08 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:Pistons are considering a Blake Griffin buyout. We got the DPE to offer him which is better than other teams minimums. I would take Blake because we just need more offensive talent, no way around it. Is he a great fit? No, but him and Curry would probably play well together.

The Celtics have a pretty big Trade Exception from the Hayward trade, they might outbid us. I think situationally he might just go to the Lakers on the minimum to fill in for AD for the time being.


You can't be serious. Blake is completely done. He sits outside and shoots 3s at a 30% clip--inside, he has not dunked once, not even once, in 20 games. Injuries have finished his career.

Someone might sign him for the minimum if he gets bought out, though why the Pistons would buy him out when they owe him $39 million for next year is a mystery.
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Post#836 » by cdubbz » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:01 am

I don't think Blake is toast at all. He just doesn't have to be good in Detroit. Put him on a playoff team and he will show his worth.
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Post#837 » by xdrta+ » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:42 am

cdubbz wrote:I don't think Blake is toast at all. He just doesn't have to be good in Detroit. Put him on a playoff team and he will show his worth.


I don't know how much you've watched him, but every time I see him he chucks it from distance (and misses) dribbles out of bounds, and never attacks the rim. He hasn't dunked once all season. That has to tell you something. I don't think he's not trying, I think it's obvious he's done.
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Post#838 » by TinoDubs » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:47 am

DAWill1128 wrote:Pistons are considering a Blake Griffin buyout. We got the DPE to offer him which is better than other teams minimums. I would take Blake because we just need more offensive talent, no way around it. Is he a great fit? No, but him and Curry would probably play well together.

The Celtics have a pretty big Trade Exception from the Hayward trade, they might outbid us. I think situationally he might just go to the Lakers on the minimum to fill in for AD for the time being.


Blake will get buyout, then he will join the LAL.
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Post#839 » by cdubbz » Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:59 am

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cdubbz wrote:I don't think Blake is toast at all. He just doesn't have to be good in Detroit. Put him on a playoff team and he will show his worth.


I don't know how much you've watched him, but every time I see him he chucks it from distance (and misses) dribbles out of bounds, and never attacks the rim. He hasn't dunked once all season. That has to tell you something. I don't think he's not trying, I think it's obvious he's done.



I watched about 3 games early on. Mostly because of Killian Hayes. Yeah he doesn't look impressive at all, but I've seen the enough times where guys who are 'toast' still can contribute on a good team. (But also seen it the other way too).

Is Blake my first option? Hell no.
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Post#840 » by azwfan » Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:11 am

tarantism wrote:I'm actually pretty intrigued by Aaron Gordon for Oubre. I hadn't thought about the idea of Orlando doing a reboot and tanking this year. I came up with a SAS/GSW/ORL three teamer:

GSW gets: Aaron Gordon, Lonnie Walker

This fills both needs for the Warriors. Gordon slides right in with the starters and replicates everything Oubre brings but at a higher level and in a more team-centric way. Walker can back up Steph and also play along side him in two guard lineups. Both players are signed through next year. Three players outgoing means they can sign JTA to a normal roster spot.

SAS gets: Nikola Vucevic, Brad Wanamaker

The Spurs upgrade from Aldridge to an all-star and PERFECT fit in Vuc. They are already in playoff position but adding Vuc makes them a little dangerous. Wanamaker is just salary filler.

Orlando gets: Kelly Oubre, LaMarcus Aldridge, Jordan Poole, 2021 SA 1st, 2023 SA 1st, 2025 GSW 1st

Orlando saves 4 million now, activates a hard rebuild, get $41 million off the books for next season (+17m from Fournier expiring) and a good look at Oubre and Poole. Not to mention a trio of first round picks (with protections) that help them retool in the next few seasons.

I like this deal for us (with a different pick year) - but Im guessing its not a good deal for someone.

Also, theres no look at Poole thats “good”.
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