Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)

[Phase 3]

Portis / Knox / Payton for Russell / Spellman

Who says no?

Bob Myers. I love all these trade proposals though. Brings me back to the old days

We’re gonna need a lot of trade and draft talk to get through this season.

Really, you think Bob turns that down? Controlling Knox’s rookie scale would be nice as he has genuine NBA starter level talent. Portis is better than most think as well. Payton kind of sucks, but can keep things going when Steph sits and we need another handler. All of the contracts are quite manageable and not expiring bringing them into play for next season as well. I like this deal for us.

I think Myers will hold out hope that he can use D-Lo’s salary(around $27M or so per year) in a trade package that lands the Warriors a “star”....

Obviously the guy I think they’ve circled is Giannis but maybe someone else becomes available over the course of the next year?

Anyways, I don’t think Myers trades D-Lo for anything less than a proven stud right now....unless, of course, Giannis gives them the signal that he’s not coming and no other star hits the trade market before June of next year.

D-Lo plus the 2020 1st/Poole/Paschall would be a pretty good package if a star player wants to force his way here. Just saying.

[CaliWG]

I'd like to see the Warriors trade their #1 for Michael Porter Jr. By all accounts he's healthy and there are no huge concerns about his long term health. Without those issues, he would've been a Top 3 pick in 2018. I'd happily give up a likely Top 5 pick to get MPJ & the Nuggets #1 over the options available in the 2020 Draft. Not only does MPJ fit a huge positional need, but his upside is as high as anyone's and he could be a future superstar for the franchise to build around long term.

[ChuckDurn]

I'd like to see the Warriors trade their #1 for Michael Porter Jr. By all accounts he's healthy and there are no huge concerns about his long term health. Without those issues, he would've been a Top 3 pick in 2018. I'd happily give up a likely Top 5 pick to get MPJ & the Nuggets #1 over the options available in the 2020 Draft. Not only does MPJ fit a huge positional need, but his upside is as high as anyone's and he could be a future superstar for the franchise to build around long term.

I like Porter, but am skeptical, given that he has had back problems, that there aren’t concerns about his long-term health. Can you share anything that backs up that rosy outlook?

During this season, it’s hard to construct a trade that allows us to pick up Porter’s salary - we’d either have to send out Looney (unlikely) or 2 players, which then leaves our roster at 13 with no real way to add any players. (And that’s with Klay counting as one of the 12, and lots of guys who seem injury-prone or are expected to sit out a bit.)

After the season is over, we’d have more data on whether Porter was able to stay healthy. Of course, if he breaks out, Denver might have zero interest in trading him at all (I agree with you, his talent is great). So there’s a really narrow combination of health and performance level that would have Denver and Golden State both wanting to do this trade.

Given the uncertainty about Porter’s health, and potential that the Warriors could even be in the running for the #1 pick, it would be too risky (and hard to structure) this deal during the season, and hard to split the arrow to make it make sense in the off-season. So I don’t see this one happening, though it’s an interesting idea.

If Porter didn’t have the medical history...... I’d probably be in. But I’m pessimistic about his long-term health.

[ahmetmekin]

Curry/Klay/Above average starter sf/Green/Looney/Paschall/ a solid bench guard/a center will be 8 guys which is enough depth and quality for playoffs and should be at least top 2 next year.
So Dlo+draft pick+ tpe/mle for a quality wing player+ a backup guard+ someone like wcs or better. It looks doable.

[xdrta+]

Next season you can go into the cap to re-sign Teague for a cheaper contract, you can sign a 9m/year MLE player and you have the 17m Iggy TPE. GSW could reload nicely.

Small point--if the team uses more than the taxpayer MLE, around $5M+, they're hard-capped again.

[Warriorfan]

I see warriors going full fire sale. Caulie Stein Burks and Robinson going out to whoever would take them so Bowman and Lewis can get off the 2 way deals.

[azwfan]

Between the 2, i'd rather keep Bowman at this point. Nothing wrong with Lee, but think Bowman (i can't believe i'm saying this) has upside. Lee, while doing okay, I don't think he has a future here.

I'm hoping Burks can be dealt to a playoff contender for a future pick. Then we can convert Bowman and sign a wing (like Toscano-Anderson or Washburn) to a 2-way deal.

[Darthlukey]

Celts fan in peace here. I know there are rumours around for a deal centred around DLO for Roco. Would you think that Dlo for Roco and Teague (expiring) would be enough to get it done? Salary relief long term and a pg to man the ship whilst curry is out until he expires

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

Celts fan in peace here. I know there are rumours around for a deal centred around DLO for Roco. Would you think that Dlo for Roco and Teague (expiring) would be enough to get it done? Salary relief long term and a pg to man the ship whilst curry is out until he expires

I am not sure an expiring is what this management is looking for. We are only hard capped this season.

[Coxy]

Celts fan in peace here. I know there are rumours around for a deal centred around DLO for Roco. Would you think that Dlo for Roco and Teague (expiring) would be enough to get it done? Salary relief long term and a pg to man the ship whilst curry is out until he expires

That deal sucks ass. People round Realgm have been trying to force that lame deal down our throats for months now. Instead of us breaking DLo down into small parts, how about Minny trades us KAT for DLo, WCS and Paschall?

[BW32]

Celts fan in peace here. I know there are rumours around for a deal centred around DLO for Roco. Would you think that Dlo for Roco and Teague (expiring) would be enough to get it done? Salary relief long term and a pg to man the ship whilst curry is out until he expires

That deal sucks ass. People round Realgm have been trying to force that lame deal down our throats for months now. Instead of us breaking DLo down into small parts, how about Minny trades us KAT for DLo, WCS and Paschall?

The whole point of trading for DLo was to appease KAT, no one else wanted DLo because no one else had a KAT to appease.

[Coxy]

Celts fan in peace here. I know there are rumours around for a deal centred around DLO for Roco. Would you think that Dlo for Roco and Teague (expiring) would be enough to get it done? Salary relief long term and a pg to man the ship whilst curry is out until he expires

That deal sucks ass. People round Realgm have been trying to force that lame deal down our throats for months now. Instead of us breaking DLo down into small parts, how about Minny trades us KAT for DLo, WCS and Paschall?

The whole point of trading for DLo was to appease KAT, no one else wanted DLo because no one else had a KAT to appease.

I don't give a **** about that. The Warriors aren't in the "Let's make a deal to appease another teams star and help them" business. The point is, we shouldn't be breaking DLo down into smaller parts, and as we are the big boys and light years ahead (lol), we should be using DLo with some other pieces to grab an ever better player and star, not the other way around.

The DLo to Minny for Roco and Teague idea can lick my balls.

[Darthlukey]

That deal sucks ass. People round Realgm have been trying to force that lame deal down our throats for months now. Instead of us breaking DLo down into small parts, how about Minny trades us KAT for DLo, WCS and Paschall?

The whole point of trading for DLo was to appease KAT, no one else wanted DLo because no one else had a KAT to appease.

I don't give a **** about that. The Warriors aren't in the "Let's make a deal to appease another teams star and help them" business. The point is, we shouldn't be breaking DLo down into smaller parts, and as we are the big boys and light years ahead (lol), we should be using DLo with some other pieces to grab an ever better player and star, not the other way around.

The DLo to Minny for Roco and Teague idea can lick my balls.

Talent wise, dlo is miles ahead in that deal for sure. I guess people just view roco as a much better fit and need for a healthy gsw team (outside looking in of course). Mind you, this year is not a healthy team

[Mylie10]

Hey Coxy, what about Vucevic? Highly skilled center, but only a decent defender. But with Spellman and Looney, they can be the defensive guys and Vucevic can bring the offense.

[Coxy]

Hey Coxy, what about Vucevic? Highly skilled center, but only a decent defender. But with Spellman and Looney, they can be the defensive guys and Vucevic can bring the offense.

Geeze, get outta my head Mylie.

He'd be a great addition to this team. Put him next to Draymond to cover the glaring defensive shortcomings, and he'd be a rock star for us. We haven't had a big man scorer like him at all in the Steph/Klay/Dray era. He'd rebound for us, finish around the rim,set great screens, plus he can shoot the ball all the way to the 3 line now.

It would likely have to be a 3 way if the Magic were set on Fultz to lead them. However they may want to move forward younger now with Dlo at PG and bring Fultz off the bench with the emergence of Isaac up front.

Maybe there's a 3 way with New York,or Minnesota? I can see both of those teams having interest in Dlo.

Curry/Cole Anthony(1st rnd)/Bowman
Klay/Poole
Jae Crowder (MLE)/Iguodala/Burks
Draymond/Paschall
Vucevic/Looney/Smiley

Mmmhmmmm.

[cdubbz]

DLO For DeAndre Drummond

[killmongrel]

Hey Coxy, what about Vucevic? Highly skilled center, but only a decent defender. But with Spellman and Looney, they can be the defensive guys and Vucevic can bring the offense.

Geeze, get outta my head Mylie.

He'd be a great addition to this team. Put him next to Draymond to cover the glaring defensive shortcomings, and he'd be a rock star for us. We haven't had a big man scorer like him at all in the Steph/Klay/Dray era. He'd rebound for us, finish around the rim,set great screens, plus he can shoot the ball all the way to the 3 line now.

It would likely have to be a 3 way if the Magic were set on Fultz to lead them. However they may want to move forward younger now with Dlo at PG and bring Fultz off the bench with the emergence of Isaac up front.

Maybe there's a 3 way with New York,or Minnesota? I can see both of those teams having interest in Dlo.

Curry/Cole Anthony(1st rnd)/Bowman
Klay/Poole
Jae Crowder (MLE)/Iguodala/Burks
Draymond/Paschall
Vucevic/Looney/Smiley

Mmmhmmmm.

Jae Crowder isn't good.

[Coxy]

Hey Coxy, what about Vucevic? Highly skilled center, but only a decent defender. But with Spellman and Looney, they can be the defensive guys and Vucevic can bring the offense.

Geeze, get outta my head Mylie.

He'd be a great addition to this team. Put him next to Draymond to cover the glaring defensive shortcomings, and he'd be a rock star for us. We haven't had a big man scorer like him at all in the Steph/Klay/Dray era. He'd rebound for us, finish around the rim,set great screens, plus he can shoot the ball all the way to the 3 line now.

It would likely have to be a 3 way if the Magic were set on Fultz to lead them. However they may want to move forward younger now with Dlo at PG and bring Fultz off the bench with the emergence of Isaac up front.

Maybe there's a 3 way with New York,or Minnesota? I can see both of those teams having interest in Dlo.

Curry/Cole Anthony(1st rnd)/Bowman
Klay/Poole
Jae Crowder (MLE)/Iguodala/Burks
Draymond/Paschall
Vucevic/Looney/Smiley

Mmmhmmmm.

Jae Crowder isn't good.

He'd fit in with that group. Tough and strong guy, good defense and can hit the corner 3 ball.

Whatever though, if you see a better realistic 2020 UFA that would take the MLE and fit into our group, I'm all ears.

[killmongrel]

Geeze, get outta my head Mylie.

He'd be a great addition to this team. Put him next to Draymond to cover the glaring defensive shortcomings, and he'd be a rock star for us. We haven't had a big man scorer like him at all in the Steph/Klay/Dray era. He'd rebound for us, finish around the rim,set great screens, plus he can shoot the ball all the way to the 3 line now.

It would likely have to be a 3 way if the Magic were set on Fultz to lead them. However they may want to move forward younger now with Dlo at PG and bring Fultz off the bench with the emergence of Isaac up front.

Maybe there's a 3 way with New York,or Minnesota? I can see both of those teams having interest in Dlo.

Curry/Cole Anthony(1st rnd)/Bowman
Klay/Poole
Jae Crowder (MLE)/Iguodala/Burks
Draymond/Paschall
Vucevic/Looney/Smiley

Mmmhmmmm.

Jae Crowder isn't good.

He'd fit in with that group. Tough and strong guy, good defense and can hit the corner 3 ball.

Whatever though, if you see a better realistic 2020 UFA that would take the MLE and fit into our group, I'm all ears.

Can't get anybody really good with the MLE. I'm looking at it as a way to keep any players we have that impresses, like Chriss, Robinson, Burks, or even WCS.If not, then I don't know. I was kind of thinking maybe somebody like Dragic might be available for the MLE, should we trade DLO of course, but he's playing well this year and is going to get another decent contract next summer. Tyler Johnson is somebody I was looking at.

As far as using it on an SF, I just don't see anybody good. You may be right in assuming that Crowder is probably the best option for that MLE if he plays decently, but if he's our starting SF, we are not in good shape. James Ennis is a guy that I like from the 76ers. But he signed back on the 76ers for the vet. minimum despite there being bigger offers from other teams. So he may be off the table if the 76ers win the title or he does well there again.

There was some centers I was looking at as well that may come cheap next summer like Alex Len. But he's been crap for the Hawks this year. Baynes might be an option but is playing well for the Suns.

But yeah, we'd like to use the MLE, but it's going to be hard to find any ideal player especially when small forward is our biggest need if DLO doesn't stay on the team, etc.

[Coxy]

Can't get anybody really good with the MLE.

That's why a guy like Crowder would work.