ShayDee wrote:I've said this before but saying it again
This is the #2 pick. Not 4, not 6, not 8. The #2 PICK
If we are not getting an allstar/fringe level talent back in any deal, then it is a fail of a trade in any type of draft. If we are not getting expensive picks back, then it is a fail of a trade
All star talent for example are players that were getting a buzz last year. Ingram, Sabonis, Lavine, Booker, Siakam etc. Players that get votes but cannot make it due to limited roster spots on allstar team
No team this offseason is going to trade their young core that have potential for the #2 pick, except the spurs if they are desperate for Wiseman. If a team is offering such a player, there is a red flag involved in the player they are trading. Bulls will not trade WCJ, Lauri, White to move up. Hawks will not trade Collins, Hunter, Reddish to move up. They will however Do a Huerter for #2 straight up which the warriors FO will never accept
Warriors will not take Sato/Thad Young to move up. Never in a million year, if they do Bob deserves to be fired. No matter what draft it is, there is always allstar/fringe allstar level talent in the top 3. If the exchange for that kind of chance at that kind of player is below average role players, and people will accept that kind of offer, then idk what to say.
Last year, who knew Ja Morant will be the kind of player he was? At the end of this season, you will hear people right now say they will prefer Morant to a 2nd year allstar player in Trae young. In college I watched alot of Ja Morants games. He is a Trae Young level defender if people did not realize, in college he was extremely atrocious on the defensive end, and he cannot shoot, or is just very inconsistent at shooting right now, yet people like him over Trae. No one would have ever imagined him to be the kind of player he was in his rookie year, and people would be lying if they told you they knew.
If this was 2019 draft, I will guarantee some warriors fans will say take Barret/Hunter ahead of Morant, because they fit our drafting philosophy better than Morant. Morant would be an awful fit to Steph, people would be saying. He plays no defense, cannot shoot, people will be saying.
We cannot accept bread crumbs for the #2 pick. And always take the Best player Available even if they do not fit or the team dislikes them. Whether it is Ball, Edwards or Wiseman. You can always trade the player if you do not like them. Do not even think of taking Deni, Okoro, Hali in top 4. Also at this point I will consider Toppin for the #2 pick, after some research I believe he might be a fringe allstar level talent. But his risks are the same with Ball and Edwards. But I think Wiseman is the BPA in the draft. He has the highest ceiling out of the top 3 in my opinion and the highest floor. He is better and more NBA ready than people think
I'm with you on a lot of this, but there was a lot of talk that Morant was the likely rookie of the year before he was drafted.
As for Toppin, no thanks, he's old and just recently took a significant step in his game.
If the Warriors feel that the best player in this draft is Ball, Edwards, Wiseman, Avdija, Okoro, Haliburton, etc then they should take that player at #2, or, if they know they can get that same player later they should trade down and take the player later.
We REALLY don't know who in this draft is going to be a star and who is going to be a bust, but I have to hope that the Warriors are going to have a much better idea than anyone here before the draft comes around.