2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

[Coxy]

Simmons went on to make two absolutely moronic GSW trade suggestions ..So horrendous I might get banned again if I post it here

Do tell.

[jason bourne]

You guys will believe anything.

And what have you contributed besides draft Wiseman? I rather trade him to ATL. What about WCJ if the Warriors trade with the Bulls?

We already have a Wendall Carter Jnr type, his name is Kevon.

Me presonally, if we miss out on Wiseman, I wany Myers to deal with Ainge on a deal for 1 of Jaylen Brown or Gordon Haywood for Wiggins + the 2nd if possible. There are too many unknowns in this draft because there was no tourny play, to properly evaluate the candidates from afar as a fan. Wiseman is the best and safest choice at the pick for mine, and will fill needs that are pefect next to Draymond which I believe to be the most important thing for the team. Draymond needs help up front, James will bring that and then some, I believe. The lob threat alone from Draymond and Wiseman is massively underrated and not spoken about.

All of the other prospect have red flags. I'm not an expert, nor am I close to the teams and players to look at them play and get to know them. Therefore, I don't talk out of my ass like I have a clue about these prospects that played next to zero tournament ball this season. Some of the prospects will likely end up stars, as the stats suggest from every draft, but the likelihood of whiffing at #2 this season is HIGH. Wiseman, is the safest and best option by FAR because of this. We can't afford to whiff. Myers can't afford to whiff.

Of the other prospects I like the look of in mix tapes and whatever random clips that are flying arounds the interwebs, are Patrick Williams, Obi Toppin, Deni and Isaac Okoro. Are any of those guys number #2 material? Who the eff knows, certainly not fans behind computers. That's why the air craft carrier is the pick for us.

Okay, we agree on Jaylen Brown from Celtics for Wiggins + #2. Gordon Hayward is too old and coming back from a serious ankle injury, broken hand, and who knows what else? Pass. It would be nice to get multiple picks from the Celtics, too.

Did you read NBCSports in-depth profile on Wiseman? He doesn't fit the Warriors. Okongwu or Obi Toppin would be better fits as big men for the Ws. Wiseman has dropped to #8 on nbadraft.net's mock probably because he can't pass and has limited court awareness.

If the Ws keep the pick, I hope they grab Anthony Edwards or LaMelo Ball. Ball would be the future for the Warriors. Killian Hayes would be another PG worth keeping. Trade down for a vet could mean Tyrese Hailiburton, Devin Vassell, Patrick Williams, or Isaac Okoro.

[GQ Hot Dog]

The buzz around him will continue to grow throughout the next month. I predict he'll get picked 5-7. Hopefully by us after a small trade down.

https://247sports.com/Article/Patrick-Williams-has-chance-to-be-selected-in-late-lottery-of-NBA-Draft-Leonard-Williams-Florida-State-Seminoles--153280165/

[HiRez]

Zach Lowe said the Warriors are telling other teams around the Association, they think they can hit a home run with the #2 overall

Well yeah, they would say that if they want to maximize trade-down value. Otherwise, why would they tell them anything? I wouldn't trust anyone who's that confident in a home run in this draft.

You mean it's better to behave with confidence than to broadcast to anyone and everyone that you don't know who the hell to pick like Minny is doing with the first pick? Maybe we should be telling all the other teams we're "confused" about who to pick?

No, I don't blame them for saying it, they have to. It's just a laughably transparent message.

[lars_rosenberg]

This draft reminds me of the 2013 draft, where Anthony Bennet was selected first out of the blue because there wasn't a clear cut #1 prospect.
That was considered a terrible draft for a while, but looking back, you had a two times MVP and a two times DPOY in that draft. They just weren't top prospects. And there was also Oladipo at #2, but it took him many years to develop and he was considered a bust for a while.
Would the Warriors be ok with someone like rookie Oladipo? I don't think so.
It's also interesting to notice that the 1-9 range (Oladipo, Otto Porter, Cody Zeller, Noel, KCP) was worse than the 10-19 (Giannis, McCollum, Steven Adams, Olynyk, Schroeder) range, but both were hit or miss as often happens in drafts.
It's a situation where probably the best chance is to trade down and bet on a prospect for the post-Curry era, while getting some vet help for the swap. Unfortunately it is hard to trade down in this draft, but if there's an opportunity Bob should explore it.

[Little Digger]

My daily Big Board ( due to popular demand)

1. Okoro
2. Ball
3. Williams
4. Advija
5. Vassell
6. Okongwu
7. Wiseman
8. Edwards

[tarantism]

My daily Big Board ( due to popular demand)

1. Okoro
2. Ball
3. Williams
4. Advija
5. Vassell
6. Okongwu
7. Wiseman
8. Edwards

You have at least 8 players in this draft above Hayes? That's crazy.

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[Scoots1994]

My daily Big Board ( due to popular demand)

1. Okoro
2. Ball
3. Williams
4. Advija
5. Vassell
6. Okongwu
7. Wiseman
8. Edwards

You have at least 8 players in this draft above Hayes? That's crazy.

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Not crazy, look at a bunch of mock drafts ... Hayes is generally around 5-10 in most mock drafts, and the most common place I've seen is 7. Also Williams and Vassell have been climbing on a lot of boards.

Not saying Hayes is clearly below 8, just that it's not "crazy"

[tarantism]

My daily Big Board ( due to popular demand)

1. Okoro
2. Ball
3. Williams
4. Advija
5. Vassell
6. Okongwu
7. Wiseman
8. Edwards

You have at least 8 players in this draft above Hayes? That's crazy.

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Not crazy, look at a bunch of mock drafts ... Hayes is generally around 5-10 in most mock drafts, and the most common place I've seen is 7. Also Williams and Vassell have been climbing on a lot of boards.

Not saying Hayes is clearly below 8, just that it's not "crazy"

I should have said "crazy to me", I apologize. I think Hayes would trive on GSW.

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[HiRez]

You have at least 8 players in this draft above Hayes? That's crazy.

Not crazy, look at a bunch of mock drafts ... Hayes is generally around 5-10 in most mock drafts, and the most common place I've seen is 7. Also Williams and Vassell have been climbing on a lot of boards.

Not saying Hayes is clearly below 8, just that it's not "crazy"

I should have said "crazy to me", I apologize. I think Hayes would trive on GSW.

He might, but let's be honest, most of these players would thrive on the Warriors. Most people in here seem to be really down on Obi Toppin and Anthony Edwards but both of them would probably thrive on this team as well, even though they could look like complete busts on some other poorly-managed, poorly-coached teams with lesser teammates.

[tarantism]

Not crazy, look at a bunch of mock drafts ... Hayes is generally around 5-10 in most mock drafts, and the most common place I've seen is 7. Also Williams and Vassell have been climbing on a lot of boards.

Not saying Hayes is clearly below 8, just that it's not "crazy"

I should have said "crazy to me", I apologize. I think Hayes would trive on GSW.

He might, but let's be honest, most of these players would thrive on the Warriors. Most people in here seem to be really down on Obi Toppin and Anthony Edwards but both of them would probably thrive on this team as well, even though they could look like complete busts on some other poorly-managed, poorly-coached teams with lesser teammates.

That's exactly why I think they want to trade down and grab more assets. You can more or less take your pick from the top 10 or so players and sell it.

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[HiRez]

I should have said "crazy to me", I apologize. I think Hayes would trive on GSW.

He might, but let's be honest, most of these players would thrive on the Warriors. Most people in here seem to be really down on Obi Toppin and Anthony Edwards but both of them would probably thrive on this team as well, even though they could look like complete busts on some other poorly-managed, poorly-coached teams with lesser teammates.

That's exactly why I think they want to trade down and grab more assets. You can more or less take your pick from the top 10 or so players and sell it.

I agree, if there's a way to get 2 of these players in the top 10-ish, I'd prefer that to whoever is available at #2. Or top 10 plus a future asset/current role player. No sure things in the top 10 but lots of good options.

[Scoots1994]

Not crazy, look at a bunch of mock drafts ... Hayes is generally around 5-10 in most mock drafts, and the most common place I've seen is 7. Also Williams and Vassell have been climbing on a lot of boards.

Not saying Hayes is clearly below 8, just that it's not "crazy"

I should have said "crazy to me", I apologize. I think Hayes would trive on GSW.

He might, but let's be honest, most of these players would thrive on the Warriors. Most people in here seem to be really down on Obi Toppin and Anthony Edwards but both of them would probably thrive on this team as well, even though they could look like complete busts on some other poorly-managed, poorly-coached teams with lesser teammates.

Obi and Edwards are real question marks. They COULD be incredible, but it seems many "experts" think they are major risks to be good shows but not winners.

[Scoots1994]

I should have said "crazy to me", I apologize. I think Hayes would trive on GSW.

He might, but let's be honest, most of these players would thrive on the Warriors. Most people in here seem to be really down on Obi Toppin and Anthony Edwards but both of them would probably thrive on this team as well, even though they could look like complete busts on some other poorly-managed, poorly-coached teams with lesser teammates.

That's exactly why I think they want to trade down and grab more assets. You can more or less take your pick from the top 10 or so players and sell it.

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I think, if they love 1 player they do all they can to take him. If that's at #2 then fine. If they can trade down and still take him that's all the better.

[jason bourne]

Obi and Edwards are real question marks. They COULD be incredible, but it seems many "experts" think they are major risks to be good shows but not winners.

There was news that some execs thought James Wiseman was the safest or one of the safer picks. It means he isn't. I figure these execs are LYING through their teeth so they can get Obi, Edwards, or even LaMelo with their lower picks.

[DevinVassell]

My updated big board...

Nothing has changed, Second verse, same as the first.

1. Wiseman
2. Vassell
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3. Haliburton
4. Nesmith
5. Toppin

[wco81]

Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer says Wiseman would be a slam dunk for the Warriors, who'd make him productive immediately.

But he says Charlotte wants Wiseman. So what would you take to move down one spot, losing Wiseman?

Miles Bridges name has been tossed around. What about PJ Washington? He shot really well in his rookie year but only 64% from FT so his 3-point % may be a fluke. Also undersized for a 4 at only 6-7 230.

What about top-5 protected first rounder in 2022?

[CS707]

Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer says Wiseman would be a slam dunk for the Warriors, who'd make him productive immediately.

But he says Charlotte wants Wiseman. So what would you take to move down one spot, losing Wiseman?

Miles Bridges name has been tossed around. What about PJ Washington? He shot really well in his rookie year but only 64% from FT so his 3-point % may be a fluke. Also undersized for a 4 at only 6-7 230.

What about top-5 protected first rounder in 2022?

I’d take the 2022 pick and run.

[DAWill1128]

This was a good listen with Omri Casspi. I just get that feeling the Warriors see the fit with Deni. Omri understands some of the intricacies of the situation better than some of the other people that the Warriors have and will speak to regarding prospects.

Watch on YouTube

[Mylie10]

The last thing the Warriors need is another undersized four or five. No thanks