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2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

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Post#921 » by HiRez » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:39 am

wco81 wrote:Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer says Wiseman would be a slam dunk for the Warriors, who'd make him productive immediately.

But he says Charlotte wants Wiseman. So what would you take to move down one spot, losing Wiseman?

Miles Bridges name has been tossed around. What about PJ Washington? He shot really well in his rookie year but only 64% from FT so his 3-point % may be a fluke. Also undersized for a 4 at only 6-7 230.

What about top-5 protected first rounder in 2022?

To move down 1 spot, are you kidding me? That would be one of the dumbest trades of all time but if they're willing, as @gst8 said you don't hesitate, you get that in writing before they can hang up on the call. Then, on draft night if Ball doesn't go #1, you flip that pick to the Knicks for the #8 and their 2021 FRP (preferred) or Mitchell Robinson (second choice).

2020 #8 FRP
2021 NYK FRP / Robinson
2022 CHA FRP

I mean this is pure fantasy but you never know, teams make really bad moves all the time
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#922 » by kingcong95 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:59 am

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wco81 wrote:Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer says Wiseman would be a slam dunk for the Warriors, who'd make him productive immediately.

But he says Charlotte wants Wiseman. So what would you take to move down one spot, losing Wiseman?

Miles Bridges name has been tossed around. What about PJ Washington? He shot really well in his rookie year but only 64% from FT so his 3-point % may be a fluke. Also undersized for a 4 at only 6-7 230.

What about top-5 protected first rounder in 2022?

To move down 1 spot, are you kidding me? That would be one of the dumbest trades of all time but if they're willing, as @gst8 said you don't hesitate, you get that in writing before they can hang up on the call. Then, on draft night if Ball doesn't go #1, you flip that pick to the Knicks for the #8 and their 2021 FRP (preferred) or Mitchell Robinson (second choice).

2020 #8 FRP
2021 NYK FRP / Robinson
2022 CHA FRP

I mean this is pure fantasy but you never know, teams make really bad moves all the time


The Knicks might be a dumb team, but even they aren't dumb enough to give up an unprotected pick when they know they're this bad. I'd be OK with Robinson + 8 + 27 + swap our own 2021 first with the one they got from DAL, but I can't understand why they'd give up Robinson.
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Post#923 » by Little Digger » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:03 pm

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Post#924 » by Little Digger » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:08 pm

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Post#925 » by Little Digger » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:22 pm

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#926 » by tarantism » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:06 pm

I'm really weary of adding another non-shooter to our core. If the fifth addition to the Steph/Klay/Wiggins/Dray lineup can't shoot then that effectively gives opposing defenses 3 players to crowd the paint area and make things difficult for us.

That makes me nervous about a guy like Avdija, who isn't quite big enough to disrupt the interior and can't reliably shoot from distance.

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Post#927 » by northoakland510 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:06 pm

Mylie10 wrote:The last thing the Warriors need is another undersized four or five. No thanks


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Post#928 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:57 pm

tarantism wrote:I'm really weary of adding another non-shooter to our core. If the fifth addition to the Steph/Klay/Wiggins/Dray lineup can't shoot then that effectively gives opposing defenses 3 players to crowd the paint area and make things difficult for us.

That makes me nervous about a guy like Avdija, who isn't quite big enough to disrupt the interior and can't reliably shoot from distance.

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If opposing teams pack the paint and leave Curry and Klay singled, I don't see that as a problem, that's an advantage for the Warriors.

I do agree that a non-shooting wing is a problem with Dray on the floor, but traditional centers can get 15 minutes a game for the Warriors in the regular season because other teams use them too. Chriss and Looney have been working hard on their outside shot to fill that shooter big role.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#929 » by ShayDee » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:50 pm

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2914096-2020-nba-mock-draft-3-trades-that-would-turn-the-lottery-upside-down

While a lot of trade speculation involves the Minnesota Timberwolves and Golden State Warriors, NBA front office members and agents believe it's more realistic to expect action from teams in the Nos. 6-12 range.

The level of interest in Anthony Edwards isn't overwhelming, and point-guard-needy teams hoping for LaMelo Ball don't seem to have the right assets for a trade. Most scouts and executives we've spoken with believe that Ball would have the edge if Minnesota stays put. Sources also tell Bleacher Report that the Wolves like Obi Toppin, but it's unclear if they'd be willing to take him at No. 1.

Odds are, the Warriors stay put despite all the trade chatter, and we're hearing there is more support for James Wiseman than Anthony Edwards in Golden State's front office. Deni Avdija, Obi Toppin and Tyrese Haliburton figure to remain in play, but it's presumed they're more trade-down targets.

The Bulls figure stay put at No. 4 if they believe Deni Avdija will be there. Rival teams have told Bleacher Report they think Chicago could be interested in Tyrese Haiburton. But Avdija sounds equally valued around the league.

Rival scouts have mentioned the Phoenix Suns showing interest in making a trade at No. 10, but it's difficult to see them having the right assets to move up. If they're unable to land an established veteran for the pick, they'd stay put and draft the best player available, regardless of position.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#930 » by KevinMcreynolds » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:08 pm

Mylie10 wrote:The last thing the Warriors need is another undersized four or five. No thanks


if he was a better shooter I would pretty much guarantee we'd be taking him
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#931 » by tarantism » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:09 pm

So hard to siphon out the misinformation this time of year. Hopefully its just a smoke screen but the TPE report makes me concerned.

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Post#932 » by KevinMcreynolds » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:12 pm

that report is so vague it basically means nothing
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#933 » by Mylie10 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:14 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:that report is so vague it basically means nothing


If anything, that report would help the Warriors possibly receive a pick out of a deal coming back with whoever we used the TPE on.

That report forces teams to sweeten their ideas for us to take on the salary hit.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#934 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:31 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:that report is so vague it basically means nothing


If anything, that report would help the Warriors possibly receive a pick out of a deal coming back with whoever we used the TPE on.

That report forces teams to sweeten their ideas for us to take on the salary hit.


When is the deadline on the cap situation for next year? That deal is going to potentially loosen up a lot of players for trades.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#935 » by tarantism » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:40 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:that report is so vague it basically means nothing


If anything, that report would help the Warriors possibly receive a pick out of a deal coming back with whoever we used the TPE on.

That report forces teams to sweeten their ideas for us to take on the salary hit.


When is the deadline on the cap situation for next year? That deal is going to potentially loosen up a lot of players for trades.
Is there a deadline? I thought they were just having ongoing discussions.

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#936 » by TB » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:27 pm

How can we get Poku and Maxey on draft day?

Those guys are way better than where they are being mocked.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#937 » by ClutchUp » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:44 pm

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I'm more curious about him on the defensive end. Any thoughts there?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#938 » by kingcong95 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:51 pm

TB wrote:How can we get Poku and Maxey on draft day?

Those guys are way better than where they are being mocked.


2 to NYK for 8, 27, DAL 1st 2021
Then 27 and min(DAL 1st, our own 1st) in 2021 to, say, PHI for 21
I think 8 is a little too high for Maxey and I would prefer Haliburton, Vassell, or even Bey over him at that spot.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#939 » by xdrta+ » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:30 pm

tarantism wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
If anything, that report would help the Warriors possibly receive a pick out of a deal coming back with whoever we used the TPE on.

That report forces teams to sweeten their ideas for us to take on the salary hit.


When is the deadline on the cap situation for next year? That deal is going to potentially loosen up a lot of players for trades.
Is there a deadline? I thought they were just having ongoing discussions.

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You're right, dates are not settled yet for anything except the draft, Nov 18.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#940 » by Warriors Analyst » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:35 pm

ClutchUp wrote:
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I'm more curious about him on the defensive end. Any thoughts there?


Video seems to indicate he's a smart help defender. Doesn't make a lot of dumb mistakes and is capable of snuffing out plays when he makes the right rotation. The bigger issue will be how he deals in isolation.

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