2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

[Scoots1994]

I specifically mean the guys that have the length and strength to make it hard on guys like Lebron, Kawhi, KD, Butler, PG, Tatum and Ingram.

I get that finding someone to do the same on AD is also desirable but in that group you have AD, Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, maybe Kristaps but he's a far more limited offensive player.

There aren't as many offensively dynamic bigs as there are wings and some of those guys, like Giannis and AD, I would be pretty comfortable assigning a wing to regardless.

Of the guys you mentioned Jae Crowder is a nice player but I am highly skeptical we can get him for the mini-MLE. Derrick Jones has the size and is worth a flier on but Spoelstra's never trusted him to play big minutes and the rest are just too small to credibly defend the biggest, most skilled wings.

I think you can develop a big like Wiseman and still add wings in the second round or free agency. I know the Warriors have their formula, but it could use some tweaking. If Wiseman can stay on the floor when the Lakers go small that is a game changer.

Wiseman won't be able to stay on the floor as a rookie. There probably isn't a single rookie big that will be useful defensively come crunch time. Not Okungwu, not Precious, probably not even Paul Reed. But with that said, I think the place to grab a flier big is in the late 1st round or 2nd round. In the last two years Boston got Robert Williams and New York got Mitchell Robinson in that range. Whiteside and DeAndre Jordan were both late picks. The athletic rim runner types can be found deep in the draft.

There are a few in this years draft too. They are why I hope the Warriors can find a pick seller in the late first.

[Little Digger]

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[northoakland510]

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I think the Luka hype has this guy overrated. I have listened to enough bay area podcasters who for some reason ignore any flaws and just say he has a feel for the game. They will say he has slow feet and can't shoot, but man he can pass.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I think you can develop a big like Wiseman and still add wings in the second round or free agency. I know the Warriors have their formula, but it could use some tweaking. If Wiseman can stay on the floor when the Lakers go small that is a game changer.

Wiseman won't be able to stay on the floor as a rookie. There probably isn't a single rookie big that will be useful defensively come crunch time. Not Okungwu, not Precious, probably not even Paul Reed. But with that said, I think the place to grab a flier big is in the late 1st round or 2nd round. In the last two years Boston got Robert Williams and New York got Mitchell Robinson in that range. Whiteside and DeAndre Jordan were both late picks. The athletic rim runner types can be found deep in the draft.

There are a few in this years draft too. They are why I hope the Warriors can find a pick seller in the late first.

Picking Paul Reed later in the draft would be great. He reminds me of a slightly smaller Marcus Camby.

[TB]

Wiseman won't be able to stay on the floor as a rookie. There probably isn't a single rookie big that will be useful defensively come crunch time. Not Okungwu, not Precious, probably not even Paul Reed. But with that said, I think the place to grab a flier big is in the late 1st round or 2nd round. In the last two years Boston got Robert Williams and New York got Mitchell Robinson in that range. Whiteside and DeAndre Jordan were both late picks. The athletic rim runner types can be found deep in the draft.

There are a few in this years draft too. They are why I hope the Warriors can find a pick seller in the late first.

Picking Paul Reed later in the draft would be great. He reminds me of a slightly smaller Marcus Camby.

Reeds size and stats compare so closely to Siakam. They even both had situations against mid-major level teams so they had similar role and opposition.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=paul-reed--pascal-siakam

My only issue with Reed is that his jumper looks AWFUL. It does seem to go in a decent amount, but I have no idea how that form can possibly extend to NBA range.

[whatisacenter]

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I think the Luka hype has this guy overrated. I have listened to enough bay area podcasters who for some reason ignore any flaws and just say he has a feel for the game. They will say he has slow feet and can't shoot, but man he can pass.

Steve Kerr and other members of the Warriors organization worked out Maccabi Tel Aviv prospect Deni Avdija on Thursday morning in Atlanta, according to sources. By all accounts, it was a positive get together, one in which the 19-year-old Israeli impressed observers. Not only did Avdija perform well in the workouts, but Warriors officials were blown away after meeting with him. The universal takeaway was that he’s a “great kid” with an immense work ethic.

With the 2020 NBA Draft less than a month away, the Warriors are still in their information-gathering phase. While it is not clear whether they are considering taking Avdija at pick No. 2 or to trade down to take him later, the meeting itself reveals something. If the Warriors were dead set on trading the No. 2 pick for veteran help, they would not schlep out all the way to Atlanta, where Avdija is based right now. The option of getting and developing a young player is clearly on the table.

does anyone have the rest of the article behind the paywall? I have cooled off on Deni as of late...I just can't tell what kind of athlete he is watching him in the league he played in. I also worry he will just be a decent roll player and not a difference maker of any sort.

[wco81]

"Great kid" is a very much mixed blessing.

Warriors definitely try to draft "great kids" Most of them don't turn out to be "dogs" or "alphas."

Only exception is really Draymond though Curry is the baby-faced assassin.

But Harrison Barnes was meek, so was Ezeli, Jones, Looney to an extent.

Iggy bullied Ezeli didn't he? Or someone made him cry.


You might be able to get away with a meek personality in an American player. But it would be doubly tough for an international player to come to the NBA with a nonassertive personality. Luka, Jokic are the exceptions to the rule, it seems.

[TB]

I see Deni impact along the lines of:

Worst Case - Osman / Casspi
Likely - Somewhere between Saric and Hayward
Best Case - Bigger Hayward / Sean Elliot

I think with what is supposed to be a great work ethic, he can get to that "Bigger Hayward" impact, which would be a really good player and a great use of the #2.

[HiRez]

I want the Dubs to get the best player they can of course, but in a way this pick is a “freebie” because of the unexpected Year From Hell the team had. Just get a decent player who can help us in the playoffs (some this year but more going forward) and I’ll be happy.

Someone who plays some defense, good motor, knows his role on this team and doesn’t try too hard to outshine our stars, and good to great BBIQ are must-haves IMO. Personally I think that sounds a lot like Okoro or Haliburton but others may fit the bill as well.

I like Wiseman a lot but like others here I have concerns about his commitment to the game and ability to contribute in the short term.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

I see Deni impact along the lines of:

Worst Case - Osman / Casspi
Likely - Somewhere between Saric and Hayward
Best Case - Bigger Hayward / Sean Elliot

I think with what is supposed to be a great work ethic, he can get to that "Bigger Hayward" impact, which would be a really good player and a great use of the #2.

I'll add in another best case: Detlef Schrempf

[Coxy]

I see Deni impact along the lines of:

Worst Case - Osman / Casspi
Likely - Somewhere between Saric and Hayward
Best Case - Bigger Hayward / Sean Elliot

I think with what is supposed to be a great work ethic, he can get to that "Bigger Hayward" impact, which would be a really good player and a great use of the #2.

[TB]

I see Deni impact along the lines of:

Worst Case - Osman / Casspi
Likely - Somewhere between Saric and Hayward
Best Case - Bigger Hayward / Sean Elliot

I think with what is supposed to be a great work ethic, he can get to that "Bigger Hayward" impact, which would be a really good player and a great use of the #2.

I'll add in another best case: Detlef Schrempf

If Deni got a Detlef style flat top, i'd trade up to #1 to make sure we land him.

[jamesnamida]

Denis ft shooting and 3point shooting looks gross tho with last year's slightly bigger sample size.
The year befores sample size is too small.

[KevinMcreynolds]

"Great kid" is a very much mixed blessing.

Warriors definitely try to draft "great kids" Most of them don't turn out to be "dogs" or "alphas."

Only exception is really Draymond though Curry is the baby-faced assassin.

But Harrison Barnes was meek, so was Ezeli, Jones, Looney to an extent.

Iggy bullied Ezeli didn't he? Or someone made him cry.


You might be able to get away with a meek personality in an American player. But it would be doubly tough for an international player to come to the NBA with a nonassertive personality. Luka, Jokic are the exceptions to the rule, it seems.

I feel like the whole basis behind the Jacob Evans pick was he was a great kid and a hard worker.

[TB]

The player with the personality and character traits I like the most is Tyrese Maxey. Pretty much hits all the character traits you'd want:

- great work ethic
- smart kid
- some dawg in him and will get after it on defense (the dray factor)
- plays with a love for the game (the steph factor)
- loves pressure moments and big games (the Klay factor)

Others right behind Maxey in this department: Haliburton, Okongwu, Toppin, Bane, Hinton

[Mylie10]

I see Deni impact along the lines of:

Worst Case - Osman / Casspi
Likely - Somewhere between Saric and Hayward
Best Case - Bigger Hayward / Sean Elliot

I think with what is supposed to be a great work ethic, he can get to that "Bigger Hayward" impact, which would be a really good player and a great use of the #2.

6’9” wingspan.....I’m out!

Dunleavy was one of the guys who went to see him overseas. My nightmare is coming true.

[ILOVEIT]

Let's see what the workout reports are for the other guys. If we see "blown away" for Edwards, Wiseman....then we know it's BS.

[ILOVEIT]

I see Deni impact along the lines of:

Worst Case - Osman / Casspi
Likely - Somewhere between Saric and Hayward
Best Case - Bigger Hayward / Sean Elliot

I think with what is supposed to be a great work ethic, he can get to that "Bigger Hayward" impact, which would be a really good player and a great use of the #2.

I'll add in another best case: Detlef Schrempf

If Deni got a Detlef style flat top, i'd trade up to #1 to make sure we land him.

Hmmm...doesn't he seem quicker than these guys? Hedo and Schrempf were both pretty slow right? Hayward is lazy slow...ugh...hate watching him play to be honest.

And yeah...they should all be forced to watch Dunleavy footage before drafting him lol

[ILOVEIT]

This is a very balanced review of Deni in a game.

3.40 shows some really good defense....

Appears like very good to great court vision, solid defense, good athlete, good shooting form.

And what you can't teach (other than court vision) is the pace at which he plays. He is fast on breaks but under control and he's slow and takes his time when setting up plays in half court.

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[Little Digger]

Warriors get: Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, No. 19 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

Nets get: Victor Oladipo

Pacers get: No. 2 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/intriguing-warriors-nets-pacers-trade-discussed-bill-simmons-zach-lowe