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OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 8:26 am
by Coxy
Just want to know what you all think about this, especially the Americans on the board. I'm imagining some of you might be Trump supporters, but I literally do not know 1 person in my entire world that would vote for that dude. The rest of the globe are seriously in shock that you guys voted him in.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 8:43 am
by bondom34
I'm ashamed.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 8:46 am
by HiRez
America will be great again...like Adonal Foyle's hands?
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 9:03 am
by floppymoose
It's a big wakeup call to the Democratic party. They have to field a candidate who appeals to their base or this will happen again.
It's also a giant warning about the state of American education and culture. Even though I live in an area that is anti-trump overall, there are still Trump voters here and I've overheard conversations from some of them. They believe everything the right-wing media tells them - they do not see any inconsistencies or hypocrisy in their positions, they have no memory of the past (blaming Dems for war in Iraq, etc).
If I thought they would learn from the next 4 years I would be somewhat heartened, but I honestly have zero hope of that. My only hope is to outlive them.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:15 am
by Franc
floppymoose wrote:It's a big wakeup call to the Democratic party. They have to field a candidate who appeals to their base or this will happen again.
It's also a giant warning about the state of American education and culture. Even though I live in an area that is anti-trump overall, there are still Trump voters here and I've overheard conversations from some of them. They believe everything the right-wing media tells them - they do not see any inconsistencies or hypocrisy in their positions, they have no memory of the past (blaming Dems for war in Iraq, etc).
If I thought they would learn from the next 4 years I would be somewhat heartened, but I honestly have zero hope of that. My only hope is to outlive them.
Nobody will say honestly that they voted for him, but where did the votes come? His win wasn't any good for Australia.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:25 am
by The-Power
Coxy wrote:I'm imagining some of you might be Trump supporters, but I literally do not know 1 person in my entire world that would vote for that dude.
Same here. I imagine there is quite an uproar among leading politicians in many of the world's biggest countries today. It feels surreal and the vast majority of people here cannot understand how such a person can be elected to President in a developed country.
One can only hope that Trump's ego is satisfied with being allowed to carry the title 'President' and that he is receptive to reasoning and - more likely - to political advice. Although this can be scary in its own right depending on who gets into his inner circle. I feel for those of you who wanted nothing to do with Trump and now have to deal with him as the President - hopefully it goes by without devastation and your lives are not negatively impacted by his politics.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:29 am
by Coxy
bondom34 wrote:I'm ashamed.
I'm gathering your American bondom. Why did people vote for him? Surely Clinton was the far lesser of 2 evils.

Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:30 am
by The-Power
Franc wrote:Nobody will say honestly that they voted for him, but where did the votes come? His win wasn't any good for Australia.
Oh, there are plenty of people who publicly supported him. This isn't like the situation with extremist right-wing parties in developed parties (and even in those cases public acceptance and therefore open support increased lately, unfortunately).
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:33 am
by The-Power
Coxy wrote:I'm gathering your American bondom. Why did people vote for him? Surely Clinton was the far lesser of 2 evils.

You're Australian, aren't you? Have you already listened to Jim Jeffries on Donald Trump? I guess at the moment it could be called gallows humor.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:35 am
by Coxy
floppymoose wrote:It's a big wakeup call to the Democratic party. They have to field a candidate who appeals to their base or this will happen again.
It's also a giant warning about the state of American education and culture. Even though I live in an area that is anti-trump overall, there are still Trump voters here and I've overheard conversations from some of them. They believe everything the right-wing media tells them - they do not see any inconsistencies or hypocrisy in their positions, they have no memory of the past (blaming Dems for war in Iraq, etc).
If I thought they would learn from the next 4 years I would be somewhat heartened, but I honestly have zero hope of that. My only hope is to outlive them.
I just can't get my head around it flop. How can people actually think that this person could be good for political leadership? I mean, he's never had any experience in any political role, and with everything else that his life has been about, I can't even reason to myself as to why someone would vote for him.
Is it a case of "I'm anti Hillary, so I'm voting for Trump!". It's the only thing I can think of.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:49 am
by Quazza
Coxy wrote:Just want to know what you all think about this, especially the Americans on the board. I'm imagining some of you might be Trump supporters, but I literally do not know 1 person in my entire world that would vote for that dude. The rest of the globe are seriously in shock that you guys voted him in.
x 2
Australia is in melt down
what the **** ****
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:50 am
by Coxy
The-Power wrote:Coxy wrote:I'm gathering your American bondom. Why did people vote for him? Surely Clinton was the far lesser of 2 evils.

You're Australian, aren't you? Have you already listened to Jim Jeffries on Donald Trump? I guess at the moment it could be called gallows humor.
Yeah this is all so relevant, but I don't think this thinking would ever resonate with the trump voter. Still funny.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:18 pm
by bondom34
Coxy wrote:bondom34 wrote:I'm ashamed.
I'm gathering your American bondom. Why did people vote for him? Surely Clinton was the far lesser of 2 evils.

Honestly, I don't know. I can't fathom how someone could, yet here we are. I'd hoped there wasn't this much hate in the world, but clearly there is. From what I've heard people just don't think he follows through on the hate speech but somehow does change policy for the better, despite no evidence of either.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:26 pm
by Onus
The American people voted for change, whether that's for better or worse they're starting to realize things are broken. Trump was the biggest advocate for change while Hillary was seen as a vote for things staying the same. Some of Trump's policies if he can implement will hurt the country but change is coming and with it hopefully an awakening of the American people to enact their own change.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:35 pm
by likashing
Clinton was predicted to get 300+ votes. Trump was not predicted to be anywhere close. End result is the other way around. Another example that a silent majority does exist.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:38 pm
by Patches Perry
The majority of Americans don't really like Trump but the DNC failed to give us a reason to be excited for someone to beat him either. They really screwed the pooch when they forced her on us (despite Bernie representing the party's true fire) and tried to convince us it was her time. I don't think Trump beats Bernie, because Bernie taps into the same sentiments as Trump without all the crazy hateful elements.
Trump's election is a failure on the part of the DNC. They put getting Hillary elected above party objectives and it bit them in the butt in the end.
It's also worth noting that Trump did lose the popular vote, so it's not like he won in a landslide.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:42 pm
by Onus
Patches Perry wrote:Americans don't really like Trump but the DNC failed to give us a reason to be excited for someone to beat him either. They really screwed the pooch when they forced her on us (despite Bernie representing the party's true fire) and tried to convince us it was her time. I don't think Trump beats Bernie, because Bernie taps into the same sentiments as Trump without all the crazy hateful elements.
Trump's election is a failure on the part of the DNC. They put getting Hillary elected above party objectives and it bit them in the butt in the end.
Trump getting elected was a failure by both parties. No one in the RNC wanted Trump or supported Trump yet they couldn't do anything about it. Whereas the DNC was able to push their candidate through the primaries even though no one wanted Hillary. The RNC is broken but the DNC pushed their agenda through with Hillary. This is exactly why the Americans voted for Trump, because the corruptness of our current system.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:43 pm
by Cactus Jack
Onus wrote:The American people voted for change, whether that's for better or worse they're starting to realize things are broken. Trump was the biggest advocate for change while Hillary was seen as a vote for things staying the same. Some of Trump's policies if he can implement will hurt the country but change is coming and with it hopefully an awakening of the American people to enact their own change.
Well said. I'm not a fan of either candidate. I think the majority of people are just fed up with how politics work & those people came out to vote. Therefore, Trump is our next president. On the brightside, the next 4 years should be entertaining.

Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:48 pm
by Patches Perry
Onus wrote:Patches Perry wrote:Americans don't really like Trump but the DNC failed to give us a reason to be excited for someone to beat him either. They really screwed the pooch when they forced her on us (despite Bernie representing the party's true fire) and tried to convince us it was her time. I don't think Trump beats Bernie, because Bernie taps into the same sentiments as Trump without all the crazy hateful elements.
Trump's election is a failure on the part of the DNC. They put getting Hillary elected above party objectives and it bit them in the butt in the end.
Trump getting elected was a failure by both parties. No one in the RNC wanted Trump or supported Trump yet they couldn't do anything about it. Whereas the DNC was able to push their candidate through the primaries even though no one wanted Hillary. The RNC is broken but the DNC pushed their agenda through with Hillary. This is exactly why the Americans voted for Trump, because the corruptness of our current system.
I guess the silver lining there is that the people still hold more power than either party, and it's possible that Trump broke both parties.
Re: OT - Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 9, 2016 4:59 pm
by Onus
Patches Perry wrote:Onus wrote:Patches Perry wrote:Americans don't really like Trump but the DNC failed to give us a reason to be excited for someone to beat him either. They really screwed the pooch when they forced her on us (despite Bernie representing the party's true fire) and tried to convince us it was her time. I don't think Trump beats Bernie, because Bernie taps into the same sentiments as Trump without all the crazy hateful elements.
Trump's election is a failure on the part of the DNC. They put getting Hillary elected above party objectives and it bit them in the butt in the end.
Trump getting elected was a failure by both parties. No one in the RNC wanted Trump or supported Trump yet they couldn't do anything about it. Whereas the DNC was able to push their candidate through the primaries even though no one wanted Hillary. The RNC is broken but the DNC pushed their agenda through with Hillary. This is exactly why the Americans voted for Trump, because the corruptness of our current system.
I guess the silver lining there is that the people still hold more power than either party, and it's possible that Trump broke both parties.
Trump has the ability to break the whole system, both domestic and global. The scary part is that he can appoint 3 supreme court justices, which will be a lifetime