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ShayDee wrote:

tarantism wrote:This seems to me like moving a strong asset like next year's Minnesota first for pennies on the dollar. Delon Wright could barely get on the court during the playoffs this year. That Minnesota pick could definitely be very high in a stronger draft when our main guys are a year older and possibly coming off of another playoff run. We need to supplement this roster with young talent, I wouldn't just deal these good picks all willy nilly.

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I said our GS 2021 pick not the Minny pick

tarantism wrote:

Scoots1994 wrote:

tarantism wrote:Advanced defensive metrics have trouble discerning between individual impact and teammate impact. The Pacers usually had average to good defenders around him.

I'm not saying he's terrible, but he doesn't fit the Warriors need of size, athleticism and rim protection on the inside. A big who doesn't bring any of those qualities to the table and still carries a Sabonis-like price tag doesn't feel worth it right now.

He would be better than most of the centers he'd face and be a bigger positive to the Warriors over most centers. Would you be happier with Sabonis and McGee/Whiteside?

Meh. McGee maybe but I'll pass on Whiteside. As far as guys who might get something at or below MLE level, I wouldn't mind Biyombo, Favors or maybe Henson. Mason Plumlee doesn't do much to protect the rim but at least he hustles and tries to rebound, and can make some plays on offense.

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zimpy27 wrote:

ShayDee wrote:

zimpy27 wrote:
Klay, Warren, Green
Where are your wing defenders prior to this trade?
You will also have an MLE for a guy like Jones Jr if you want. What was your plan for wing defenders?

The wing defender was Wiggins and the MLE target. Warren is a sever downgrade and he is not defending anyone

Ok well, our evaluation of players seems quite opposite. So I understand why you don't like the trade. I have Warren as quite a bit better than Wiggins.

Warriors Analyst wrote:

zimpy27 wrote:

ShayDee wrote:
The wing defender was Wiggins and the MLE target. Warren is a sever downgrade and he is not defending anyone

Ok well, our evaluation of players seems quite opposite. So I understand why you don't like the trade. I have Warren as quite a bit better than Wiggins.

Yeah I think a lot of people here have convinced themselves that our 12 game sample size of Wiggins holds more promise than it showed. In a vacuum, yes, Wiggins does have more potential than Warren, but I'm inclined to believe that Warren is a more consistent and valuable player over the next few years. We have two years of numbers that show he's a legitimate 40% three point shooter, he's big enough that he can moonlight at the 4 some, and he's probably a more useful defender than Wiggins against bigger guys.

The hope with Wiggins is that he play the role that Klay did for a long time on defense and chase around smaller wings, which is a good way to use his athleticism and minimize his sluggishness and inattentiveness as off-ball defender. I'm sympathetic to the argument that someone like Wiggins in his ideal form who can chase around the small guys is more valuable than a Warren type on defense, but yeah, I don't buy it. Warren is a legitimately good player, he'd fit really well here, and that's not even taking into account getting Turner back.

This deal is pretty great for the Warriors.

zimpy27 wrote:GSW gets: Turner, Warren, Lamb, McConnell

Indy gets: Wiggins, pick 2, 2021 MIN FRP, TPE 17m (used on Warren + McConnell)


PG: Curry | McConnell | Bowman
SG: Klay | Lee | Poole | Mulder
SF: Warren | Lamb | Toscano
PF: Green | Paschall | Smailagic
C : Turner | Looney

vagelis wrote:Every day there is a different trade suggestion for Wiggins. But he may stay with Warriors. He can contribute in offense and defense

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ILOVEIT wrote:

vagelis wrote:Every day there is a different trade suggestion for Wiggins. But he may stay with Warriors. He can contribute in offense and defense

At .27 into the video...IMHO...that is the entire game of the NBA right now.

Now imagine Wiggins and Draymond attacking those switches and turning over the opposition

Who can put their opponents big guy on an island in switching at the top of the key.

Wiggins is going to be a huge value at that switching defensive rotation. He, like Draymond, can hold his own against any big guy in the league.

On the other hand, that same big guy is going to get eaten alive on the other side of the floor.....Wiggins and Warriors small ball will destroy that action.

Warriors are going to keep Wiggins....they see it.

Little Digger wrote:Don’t get me wrong..I love Wiggins on the warriors..just trying to keep this board hopping

Onus wrote:

ILOVEIT wrote:

vagelis wrote:Every day there is a different trade suggestion for Wiggins. But he may stay with Warriors. He can contribute in offense and defense

At .27 into the video...IMHO...that is the entire game of the NBA right now.

Now imagine Wiggins and Draymond attacking those switches and turning over the opposition

Who can put their opponents big guy on an island in switching at the top of the key.

Wiggins is going to be a huge value at that switching defensive rotation. He, like Draymond, can hold his own against any big guy in the league.

On the other hand, that same big guy is going to get eaten alive on the other side of the floor.....Wiggins and Warriors small ball will destroy that action.

Warriors are going to keep Wiggins....they see it.

Wiggins is going to be our best on ball defender.

Mambomuziki wrote:If we were to Trade down with SAS for #11 and some of their young and coming talents, who would you guys like?
1. Pick at #11
2. Young talent from SAS
3. SRP swaps #41 and #51?



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Onus wrote:

ILOVEIT wrote:

vagelis wrote:Every day there is a different trade suggestion for Wiggins. But he may stay with Warriors. He can contribute in offense and defense

At .27 into the video...IMHO...that is the entire game of the NBA right now.

Now imagine Wiggins and Draymond attacking those switches and turning over the opposition

Who can put their opponents big guy on an island in switching at the top of the key.

Wiggins is going to be a huge value at that switching defensive rotation. He, like Draymond, can hold his own against any big guy in the league.

On the other hand, that same big guy is going to get eaten alive on the other side of the floor.....Wiggins and Warriors small ball will destroy that action.

Warriors are going to keep Wiggins....they see it.

Wiggins is going to be our best on ball defender.

ShayDee wrote:

Mambomuziki wrote:If we were to Trade down with SAS for #11 and some of their young and coming talents, who would you guys like?
1. Pick at #11
2. Young talent from SAS
3. SRP swaps #41 and #51?



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I've been thinking about this. Murray sounds omehow appealing but. He cost too much for a backup and he wil lnot be in the death lineup. So it will be between Derrick White and Lonnie Walker.

Honestly I don't know if I like moving to 11. We miss out on all the prospect and the trade doesn't really make us better. Lacob looking to cut cost is really turning me away and Wiggons contract being a huge poison pill is also making me more frustrated with the way Myers has been handling the team for 2 years

Only way it is worth trading down with spurs is if they give us a 2021 pick + Derrick White/Murray and we draft Desmond Bane at 11

Why do the Warriors FO not like Wiseman, I literally do not understand, this small ball/versatility stuff has ruined our team building for these year and now they want to continue with this philosophy. We do not have Durant and Iggy anymore. Small ball will not work against the lakers with any guy we bring in

whatisacenter wrote:

Onus wrote:

ILOVEIT wrote:
At .27 into the video...IMHO...that is the entire game of the NBA right now.

Now imagine Wiggins and Draymond attacking those switches and turning over the opposition

Who can put their opponents big guy on an island in switching at the top of the key.

Wiggins is going to be a huge value at that switching defensive rotation. He, like Draymond, can hold his own against any big guy in the league.

On the other hand, that same big guy is going to get eaten alive on the other side of the floor.....Wiggins and Warriors small ball will destroy that action.

Warriors are going to keep Wiggins....they see it.

Wiggins is going to be our best on ball defender.

whatisacenter wrote:

Onus wrote:

ILOVEIT wrote:
At .27 into the video...IMHO...that is the entire game of the NBA right now.

Now imagine Wiggins and Draymond attacking those switches and turning over the opposition

Who can put their opponents big guy on an island in switching at the top of the key.

Wiggins is going to be a huge value at that switching defensive rotation. He, like Draymond, can hold his own against any big guy in the league.

On the other hand, that same big guy is going to get eaten alive on the other side of the floor.....Wiggins and Warriors small ball will destroy that action.

Warriors are going to keep Wiggins....they see it.

Wiggins is going to be our best on ball defender.