Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)

[whatisacenter]

What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

ChuckDurn. Don't reply to me anymore you **** ****. I would've been fine except for your last paragraph. What are you in kindergarten? You are jaded by hate. All I did was ask a question YOU MOTHER ****!!!

[jason bourne]

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

ChuckDurn. Don't reply to me anymore you **** ****. I would've been fine except for your last paragraph. What are you in kindergarten? You are jaded by hate. All I did was ask a question YOU MOTHER ****!!!

Thanks, guys. I'm going back to strictly the GB. You can celebrate now.

[Hopper15]

[DevinVassell]

Thanks, guys. I'm going back to strictly the GB.

[azwfan]

What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

ChuckDurn. Don't reply to me anymore you **** ****. I would've been fine except for your last paragraph. What are you in kindergarten? You are jaded by hate. All I did was ask a question YOU MOTHER ****!!!

Cant tell if this is a faux overreaction or a real overreaction. I find it funny either way. Well done!

[Mylie10]

What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

ChuckDurn. Don't reply to me anymore you **** ****. I would've been fine except for your last paragraph. What are you in kindergarten? You are jaded by hate. All I did was ask a question YOU MOTHER ****!!!

Settle down

[Scoots1994]

What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

ChuckDurn. Don't reply to me anymore you **** ****. I would've been fine except for your last paragraph. What are you in kindergarten? You are jaded by hate. All I did was ask a question YOU MOTHER ****!!!

Overreact much? You do come up with some of the dumbest ideas in this forum ... did you really not know that? Having someone point it out politely certainly doesn't seem to warrant that response.

[ChuckDurn]

What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

Tucker has 8m/year contract and Covington 11m/year. These are not big contracts.
So, I don't think that if they want to trade them it is to save money. Maybe they don't believe in those two players anymore.
Tucker is 35 yo and he has declined the last years.
Covington is a role player who plays good defense but has no talent in offense. Rockets may try to build a new roster around Harden

They’re not big contracts - but that’s not the point. The Rockets’ owner (Fertitta) has been killed financially during the COVID period (he already was pretty tight financially), and it’s pretty widely believed that he’s going to want to reduce spending. Tucker and Covington are the 2 guys on the team (aside from Harden) that they’d be able to trade without taking much of any salary back, and could fetch some nice draft picks / lower-priced talent in return.

It’s particularly hard to argue that Tucker is slipping. This season, he shot a career high in true-shooting percentage, and was in the conversation to be on the NBA All-Defense teams (there only are 10 players in the league total that make it). Covington didn’t have a particularly good year overall, but in the playoffs he was outstanding for the Rockets, and was a big part of the reason they beat the Thunder. It’s hard to think that the Rockets would want to just move on from these guys - the real motivation would be the owner’s financial distress.

[ChuckDurn]

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

ChuckDurn. Don't reply to me anymore you **** ****. I would've been fine except for your last paragraph. What are you in kindergarten? You are jaded by hate. All I did was ask a question YOU MOTHER ****!!!

Overreact much? You do come up with some of the dumbest ideas in this forum ... did you really not know that? Having someone point it out politely certainly doesn't seem to warrant that response.

To answer Jason’s question..... no, I’m not in kindergarten. In actuality, I completed high school (top 1% of my class of ~700), got a B.S. in Engineering from a top-5 school, and then got an MBA from one of the top 2-3 business schools in the country. So I’m most definitely a little beyond kindergarten. Enough to understand that proper names are capitalized, in fact.

But ironically, my polite questions weren’t answered. Go figure.

And thank you for noting the politeness in them.

[Quazza]

The Suns prolly won't trade Kelly Oubre...

Watch on YouTube

Nice jersey, but will they be sued for calling it the City Edition?

"City Edition" is a NBA/Nike thing, not a Suns thing. Every team has one

[Commodor]

Wooo things getting spicy in the trade thread.

Someone bring back Sid the Squid.

[Mylie10]

Wooo things getting spicy in the trade thread.

Someone bring back Sid the Squid.

They’ll never let Sid the Squid back in here. That guy was the worst. He loved Don Nelson

[ILOVEIT]

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?

ChuckDurn. Don't reply to me anymore you **** ****. I would've been fine except for your last paragraph. What are you in kindergarten? You are jaded by hate. All I did was ask a question YOU MOTHER ****!!!

Cant tell if this is a faux overreaction or a real overreaction. I find it funny either way. Well done!

Well he's on my ignore list...you might try it.

[NYG]

Would Golden State add any incentive to a Iguodala trade where Miami sends him out for the TPE?

[Onus]

Would Golden State add any incentive to a Iguodala trade where Miami sends him out for the TPE?

We’ll take an asset for iguodala. I doubt we would give up anything for him.

[azwfan]

Would Golden State add any incentive to a Iguodala trade where Miami sends him out for the TPE?

Id move to have Iguodala back...

But we’re not in a position to pay $15m + tax to someone who is barely gonna play till the playoffs. We need 20-25 regular season mins from that money IMO. We just dont have that luxury anymore.

[Little Digger]

I love me some Andre..but after watching him in the bubble, my opinion is that he’s pretty much done..last hope is to take whatever Lebron’s on

[azwfan]

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[ChuckDurn]

Some big news came out this morning:
1. Trades can be consummated starting at noon Eastern time tomorrow (the 16th);
2. The $17.2M trade exception will expire on 11/18, not 11/25 (as had been expected). 11/18 is, of course, when the draft is taking place and getting most or all of the focus.

#2 creates a problem for the Warriors (compared to what the 25th would have offered). Since free agency won’t start until 11/20, the Warriors have to decide whether to use the TPE (and/or who to use it on) before they have any idea who they can get in free agency. I kind of wonder if that’s a bit of “evening out” by the league for the recent change on the luxury tax penalties, which many felt really benefitted the Warriors (and made it more likely they’d use the TPE). The Warriors can still use it, but now they’re much more “flying blind” if they do, and also are going to be dealing with all the draft stuff at the same time.

Myers ain’t getting any sleep for the foreseeable future.

EDIT: it now looks like the TPE will expire on 11/23. Was reported today by Hollinger (and others) that it would be 11/18, they’ve now revised that.

[Little Digger]

Normally don’t the teams know where the free agents are headed before Free Agency is officially open?

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