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Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:47 pm
by wco81
The scouting report on him is that he is a three-point specialist who is too small to defend many guards. But in a combined 81 minutes over his past three games, Cook has missed all eight of his three-point attempts. His numbers in 18 Golden State games — 3.3 points on 37.7 percent shooting, including 28.6 percent from three-point range, 1.1 assists and 1.2 rebounds in 12.1 minutes — won’t wow front-office executives.


https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Quinn-Cook-tries-to-make-most-of-Stephen-12747762.php

I don't know if there are veteran guards out there who have been released or just are not on a roster now.

But they better have other plans for the post-season.

Playoffs are not the time to help develop a very marginal player.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:29 pm
by Samurai
To be more accurate, he isn't shooting in NBA games the way he has shot the ball in the G-league. This season, in 29 games he is shooting a very solid 44% on 6.6 3-point attempts/game. Unless the G-League uses a different distance for their 3-point line or if their baskets are a different height/size, he should be able to shoot better in the NBA. So I'm thinking it is more a mental thing where he is getting scared/intimidated which is throwing off his game. He's shooting 52% from the field and averaging over 8 dimes a game, but of course he's also playing 36 minutes/game there so he should be piling up more dimes. But shooting 44% from 3 and 95% from the line seems to indicate that he has the physical tools to put the ball in the basket. Obviously facing NBA defenses are factoring into that, although he isn't shooting contested 3's (nor should he be). So maybe he needs some type of sports psychologist to have him put his head on straight and realize the basket in the NBA is no different than the basket in the G-League.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:38 pm
by KevinMcreynolds
he's straight doo doo

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:48 am
by BW32
Samurai wrote:To be more accurate, he isn't shooting in NBA games the way he has shot the ball in the G-league. This season, in 29 games he is shooting a very solid 44% on 6.6 3-point attempts/game. Unless the G-League uses a different distance for their 3-point line or if their baskets are a different height/size, he should be able to shoot better in the NBA. So I'm thinking it is more a mental thing where he is getting scared/intimidated which is throwing off his game. He's shooting 52% from the field and averaging over 8 dimes a game, but of course he's also playing 36 minutes/game there so he should be piling up more dimes. But shooting 44% from 3 and 95% from the line seems to indicate that he has the physical tools to put the ball in the basket. Obviously facing NBA defenses are factoring into that, although he isn't shooting contested 3's (nor should he be). So maybe he needs some type of sports psychologist to have him put his head on straight and realize the basket in the NBA is no different than the basket in the G-League.


CJ Watson was a 50/40/90 guy in the gleague, that's just how much better the average D is and how fast the game is at the highest level. Maybe he makes the adjustment tho but it's not a given.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:51 am
by azwfan
Not defending him at all, but i'm not sure how statistically significant 8 of 28 is. Before his last 3 games... he was shooting a respectable 40% from 3. He has shot poorly recently so now he can't shoot in the league? Not sure i agree.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:10 am
by wco81
No it's not a big enough data set.

But there's not much of the season left before they set the playoffs rosters.

I'm sure if McCaw can go before the playoffs, he'll get most of the minutes in the rotation going forward now.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:21 am
by East Bay Sports
doo doo butter

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:09 am
by northoakland510
Warriors didn't try to better. There had to be someone on buyout or something that can replace one of these bench guys.

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Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:21 am
by Coxy
Brandon Jennings would have been good. That's what it has come to.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:07 pm
by Mylie10
You impatient F&$#*!

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:33 pm
by KevinMcreynolds
doo doo brown I says

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:36 pm
by cpower
Cook, Livingston and Young are terrible players . It is sad that we signed them (last 2) for big money for nothing.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:03 pm
by cdubbz
Brandon Jennings is better than cook by far. I get that Cook meshes well with the team and had KD connections, but there were some free agents that who could do some damage in limited minutes.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:05 pm
by wco81
I don't know if Jennings would do what the Warriors want, namely to help space the floor and knock down 3s when the ball is rotated to him.

He's the type who wants to dribble a lot and chuck. Even if they tamed him of that impulse, I'm not sure how effective he'd be just catching and shooting. He may need to get in rhythm by taking several pull-ups.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:45 pm
by hamncheese
Jennings and Javale can go at each other with 3-point shooting contests in practice.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:18 am
by Upperclass
Its been obvious that cook isnt an NBA player.. I think they thought he could be a free scholarship player due to his character, but he just lacks NBA athleticism, decision making and shooting touch.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:56 am
by wco81
Hmm, so there's a rule that when a 2-way player reaches 45 days of service in the NBA, the team must either add him to the 15-man roster or let him go.

Cook is at 36 and with Curry injured, there's a good chance he gets to 45. But if they add him to the 15-man, they'd have to cut someone, maybe like Casspi.

The logic would be that with Curry's injuries and Livingston's age, they need another ball handler on the playoffs roster, just in case.

He probably had his best game against the Lakers. But that's the Lakers, a non playoffs team (though they've played well since the all-star break).

I guess adding him or some other player and cutting another could have some adverse luxury-tax consequences so that may be why they're not looking to bring a vet in, who would not be a 2-way player so you'd have to make a roster move right away.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:23 am
by azwfan
wco81 wrote:Hmm, so there's a rule that when a 2-way player reaches 45 days of service in the NBA, the team must either add him to the 15-man roster or let him go.

Cook is at 36 and with Curry injured, there's a good chance he gets to 45. But if they add him to the 15-man, they'd have to cut someone, maybe like Casspi.

The logic would be that with Curry's injuries and Livingston's age, they need another ball handler on the playoffs roster, just in case.

He probably had his best game against the Lakers. But that's the Lakers, a non playoffs team (though they've played well since the all-star break).

I guess adding him or some other player and cutting another could have some adverse luxury-tax consequences so that may be why they're not looking to bring a vet in, who would not be a 2-way player so you'd have to make a roster move right away.


Why do it now, when you can wait 9 days? What if someone like Casspi or Zaza were to go down with a season ending injury. Would make the decision of who to cut a little easier.

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:54 am
by Samurai
Great game for Cook against the Kings. 25 points on 10-13 shooting including 5-7 from beyond the arc. Added 4 rebounds, 3 dimes and 3 steals. Yes, its only one game, but for tonight he was DEFINITELY cutting it. Keep it up Quinn!

Re: Cook isn't cutting it

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:56 am
by Samurai
azwfan wrote:
wco81 wrote:Hmm, so there's a rule that when a 2-way player reaches 45 days of service in the NBA, the team must either add him to the 15-man roster or let him go.

Cook is at 36 and with Curry injured, there's a good chance he gets to 45. But if they add him to the 15-man, they'd have to cut someone, maybe like Casspi.

The logic would be that with Curry's injuries and Livingston's age, they need another ball handler on the playoffs roster, just in case.

He probably had his best game against the Lakers. But that's the Lakers, a non playoffs team (though they've played well since the all-star break).

I guess adding him or some other player and cutting another could have some adverse luxury-tax consequences so that may be why they're not looking to bring a vet in, who would not be a 2-way player so you'd have to make a roster move right away.


Why do it now, when you can wait 9 days? What if someone like Casspi or Zaza were to go down with a season ending injury. Would make the decision of who to cut a little easier.


I don't think the Dubs know how long Casspi will be out yet.