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Re: Assuming Durant leaves...build next years team. 

Post#141 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:13 am

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KD, Kyrie and scrubs. That's not really a contender. I'd expect KD to get that but who knows.


we'll they'll have a top 3 pick too that they can leverage for another player if they want. Also another year of Smith Jr., Knox and Robinson on the roster.
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Post#142 » by marthafokker » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:24 am

clyde21 wrote:- resign Klay
- trade Draymond

the trade Draymond part is tough, obviously. he's losing value seemingly every game, and he been a complete benign offensive player. what I would do is maybe approach Minnesota and see if they have interest. He'd actually be a solid fit next to Towns. I'd do Draymond for Minny's 1st and Dieng (filler, and a bit of cap relief for Minny).

in FA my #1 target would probably be Bojan Bogdanovic...although I don't think we'd be able to afford I think the only thing we'd have available is the Exception for ~9mil and he'd demand more unless he just wants to come here and is willing to bypass a few mil.

as for philosophy...I'd go back to Warriors basics pre-Durant. Splash Brothers offense.


How about using Livingston, Dray, and Andre to take on Cavs expensive players? That should prolong 2 more years before Curry starts to slow down. Cavs get cap saving to rebuild quicker.
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Re: Assuming Durant leaves...build next years team. 

Post#143 » by DoItALL9 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:34 am

marthafokker wrote:
clyde21 wrote:- resign Klay
- trade Draymond

the trade Draymond part is tough, obviously. he's losing value seemingly every game, and he been a complete benign offensive player. what I would do is maybe approach Minnesota and see if they have interest. He'd actually be a solid fit next to Towns. I'd do Draymond for Minny's 1st and Dieng (filler, and a bit of cap relief for Minny).

in FA my #1 target would probably be Bojan Bogdanovic...although I don't think we'd be able to afford I think the only thing we'd have available is the Exception for ~9mil and he'd demand more unless he just wants to come here and is willing to bypass a few mil.

as for philosophy...I'd go back to Warriors basics pre-Durant. Splash Brothers offense.


How about using Livingston, Dray, and Andre to take on Cavs expensive players? That should prolong 2 more years before Curry starts to slow down. Cavs get cap saving to rebuild quicker.


Which guys do you envision in particular?
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Post#144 » by killmongrel » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:27 am

If KD leaves, the best thing the Warriors can do is try to get a haul from the Knicks if that's the team he wants to go to. If he'll agree to do a sign and trade, the Warriors can actually bolster our depth.

Lance Thomas(making 7,583,975 next season) - SF/PF
Damyean Dotson(making 1,618,520 next season) - SG
Mitchell Robinson(making 1,559,712/1,663,861/1,802,057 in the next 3 seasons) - PF/C
Frank Ntilikina(making 4,855,800/6,176,578 in the next 2 seasons) - PG

Who could we get from this list and how many? If we could get Lance Thomas and Frank Ntilikina, that would take care of our SF position and pg depth should Livingston be waived. I don't know if Lance Thomas is a starting quality SF, but we can at least use the depth and see if an sf in free agency wants to start for the Warriors at the vet. minimum.

I think that Iguodala will most likely be on this team next year. I just can't see them being able to get rid of him since he's still too useful.

So if that's the case they can then focus on re-signing Klay for the max. Re-sign Jonas Jerebko for the vet. minimum. I doubt Looney is back since other teams must know he's at least worth a mult-year contract at 4+ million. I think the Warriors can re-sign Bell at the vet. minimum. Let Cook go. I think they keep McKinnie. Pray that Boogie uses another year on the team to increase his value. Pray that Bogut wants to sign another vet. minimum deal next year.

So it stands, best case scenario, the team can look like:

Steph/Ntilikina/Rookie
Klay/Evans
Vet. Minimum FA/Lance Thomas/Iguodala/McKinnie
Draymond/Jerebko/Bell
Boogie/Bogut/Jones

Or it's possible the team can trade Draymond Green and get a decent return as well.

Worst case scenario:

Steph/Vet. Minimum PG/Rookie
Klay/Evans/
Vet. Minimum FA/Iguodala/McKinnie
Draymond/Bell/Vet. Minimum FA
Jones/Gortat/Deyonte Davis

I can still picture Damion Lee and Marcus Derrickson on those two ways if they don't get better deals.

What do you guys think?
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Post#145 » by Mylie10 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:16 am

killmongrel wrote:If KD leaves, the best thing the Warriors can do is try to get a haul from the Knicks if that's the team he wants to go to. If he'll agree to do a sign and trade, the Warriors can actually bolster our depth.

Lance Thomas(making 7,583,975 next season) - SF/PF
Damyean Dotson(making 1,618,520 next season) - SG
Mitchell Robinson(making 1,559,712/1,663,861/1,802,057 in the next 3 seasons) - PF/C
Frank Ntilikina(making 4,855,800/6,176,578 in the next 2 seasons) - PG

Who could we get from this list and how many? If we could get Lance Thomas and Frank Ntilikina, that would take care of our SF position and pg depth should Livingston be waived. I don't know if Lance Thomas is a starting quality SF, but we can at least use the depth and see if an sf in free agency wants to start for the Warriors at the vet. minimum.

I think that Iguodala will most likely be on this team next year. I just can't see them being able to get rid of him since he's still too useful.

So if that's the case they can then focus on re-signing Klay for the max. Re-sign Jonas Jerebko for the vet. minimum. I doubt Looney is back since other teams must know he's at least worth a mult-year contract at 4+ million. I think the Warriors can re-sign Bell at the vet. minimum. Let Cook go. I think they keep McKinnie. Pray that Boogie uses another year on the team to increase his value. Pray that Bogut wants to sign another vet. minimum deal next year.

So it stands, best case scenario, the team can look like:

Steph/Ntilikina/Rookie
Klay/Evans
Vet. Minimum FA/Lance Thomas/Iguodala/McKinnie
Draymond/Jerebko/Bell
Boogie/Bogut/Jones

Or it's possible the team can trade Draymond Green and get a decent return as well.

Worst case scenario:

Steph/Vet. Minimum PG/Rookie
Klay/Evans/
Vet. Minimum FA/Iguodala/McKinnie
Draymond/Bell/Vet. Minimum FA
Jones/Gortat/Deyonte Davis

I can still picture Damion Lee and Marcus Derrickson on those two ways if they don't get better deals.

What do you guys think?


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Re: Assuming Durant leaves...build next years team. 

Post#146 » by wco81 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:22 am

You don't want to take back that much salary for non-starters.

In fact you'd need all-star players for that much salary.
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Post#147 » by xdrta+ » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:23 am

killmongrel wrote:If KD leaves, the best thing the Warriors can do is try to get a haul from the Knicks if that's the team he wants to go to. If he'll agree to do a sign and trade, the Warriors can actually bolster our depth.


Leaving aside the fact that it's very difficult to do a sign-and-trade anymore, mainly because of salary matching, why would Durant want to weaken the team he's going to when they could just sign him with cap space? Why would the Knicks agree when they could just sign him with cap space?
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Post#148 » by Sleepy51 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:14 pm

Don’t we have Looney’s bird rights? We can keep him as long as we’re willing to match his offer sheet right?
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Post#149 » by likashing » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:22 pm

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26306393/tens-millions-stake-all-nba-sprint-finish

Everything starts from here. There is a *tiny* chance that Klay might get on the All NBA 3rd team and make him eligible for the super-max. The voters might vote him in just to screw us up.
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Post#150 » by xdrta+ » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:33 am

Sleepy51 wrote:Don’t we have Looney’s bird rights? We can keep him as long as we’re willing to match his offer sheet right?


Looney is an unrestricted FA, so there's no offer sheet to match, he can sign wherever he wants. But yeah, GS has his Bird rights, so they can go over the cap and pay as much as they want. Probably hoping there's no interest and they can get him on another minimum contract.
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Post#151 » by SpreeS » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:10 am

likashing wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26306393/tens-millions-stake-all-nba-sprint-finish

Everything starts from here. There is a *tiny* chance that Klay might get on the All NBA 3rd team and make him eligible for the super-max. The voters might vote him in just to screw us up.


Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard are lock for first two teams. Irving? He is big question at the moment. Oladipo injured, Kemba and Beal will likely miss PO, Mitchell, DeRozen and Russell -maybe Russell could have case. I could say Klay has very good chances to be in 3th team.
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Post#152 » by wco81 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:24 am

What is the difference, about $50 million over 5 years?

At this point, it's Lacob's money. Whether he makes All-NBA or not, Warriors won't be able to add significant players.
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Post#153 » by likashing » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:51 am

SpreeS wrote:
likashing wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26306393/tens-millions-stake-all-nba-sprint-finish

Everything starts from here. There is a *tiny* chance that Klay might get on the All NBA 3rd team and make him eligible for the super-max. The voters might vote him in just to screw us up.


Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard are lock for first two teams. Irving? He is big question at the moment. Oladipo injured, Kemba and Beal will likely miss PO, Mitchell, DeRozen and Russell -maybe Russell could have case. I could say Klay has very good chances to be in 3th team.


Looks like Simmons is eligible as a guard too. Kyrie despite all his flaws he is still the best player on the Celtics team.

We will only have around 57 wins this season and maybe the 3rd best regular season team. Maybe the votes won’t think our team deserve to have 3 players as All NBA this season.

Earlier this season I felt Klay had no chance. Right now with all the injuries I think Klay has a slight chance. Kind of feel Kyrie/Simmons/Kemba are ahead of Klay, but it will depend on the voters.
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Post#154 » by likashing » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:54 am

wco81 wrote:What is the difference, about $50 million over 5 years?

At this point, it's Lacob's money. Whether he makes All-NBA or not, Warriors won't be able to add significant players.


Because if Klay qualifies and gets the supermax, Draymond won’t be eligible even if he qualifies. Not in a mood to argue who deserves it more though.

Things are more straight forward if Klay isn’t on All NBA this season.
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Post#155 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:31 pm

SpreeS wrote:
likashing wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26306393/tens-millions-stake-all-nba-sprint-finish

Everything starts from here. There is a *tiny* chance that Klay might get on the All NBA 3rd team and make him eligible for the super-max. The voters might vote him in just to screw us up.


Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard are lock for first two teams. Irving? He is big question at the moment. Oladipo injured, Kemba and Beal will likely miss PO, Mitchell, DeRozen and Russell -maybe Russell could have case. I could say Klay has very good chances to be in 3th team.


I don't disagree with anything you're saying, imho I feel like the list will be...

1st: Harden, Curry
2nd: Westbrick, Lillard
3rd: Beal, Irving

just missing out: Klay, Mitchell, Kemba

although I could see voters turning on Kyrie just for being a douche this year
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Post#156 » by donkeylips » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:39 pm

I don’t think klay makes it. I think Irving is a lock, and have Beal and walker over klay.
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Post#157 » by Mylie10 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:35 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
likashing wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26306393/tens-millions-stake-all-nba-sprint-finish

Everything starts from here. There is a *tiny* chance that Klay might get on the All NBA 3rd team and make him eligible for the super-max. The voters might vote him in just to screw us up.


Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard are lock for first two teams. Irving? He is big question at the moment. Oladipo injured, Kemba and Beal will likely miss PO, Mitchell, DeRozen and Russell -maybe Russell could have case. I could say Klay has very good chances to be in 3th team.


I don't disagree with anything you're saying, imho I feel like the list will be...

1st: Harden, Curry
2nd: Westbrick, Lillard
3rd: Beal, Irving

just missing out: Klay, Mitchell, Kemba

although I could see voters turning on Kyrie just for being a douche this year


In my opinion, Klay has been better than Beal, Westbrook, and Kyrie, especially when you factor in defense.
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Post#158 » by DoItALL9 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:51 pm

likashing wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26306393/tens-millions-stake-all-nba-sprint-finish

Everything starts from here. There is a *tiny* chance that Klay might get on the All NBA 3rd team and make him eligible for the super-max. The voters might vote him in just to screw us up.
I expect that to happen.

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Post#159 » by DoItALL9 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:55 pm

likashing wrote:
wco81 wrote:What is the difference, about $50 million over 5 years?

At this point, it's Lacob's money. Whether he makes All-NBA or not, Warriors won't be able to add significant players.


Because if Klay qualifies and gets the supermax, Draymond won’t be eligible even if he qualifies. Not in a mood to argue who deserves it more though.

Things are more straight forward if Klay isn’t on All NBA this season.
Is the rule only 2 super max guys per team?

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Post#160 » by cpower » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:27 pm

clyde21 wrote:- resign Klay
- trade Draymond

the trade Draymond part is tough, obviously. he's losing value seemingly every game, and he been a complete benign offensive player. what I would do is maybe approach Minnesota and see if they have interest. He'd actually be a solid fit next to Towns. I'd do Draymond for Minny's 1st and Dieng (filler, and a bit of cap relief for Minny).

in FA my #1 target would probably be Bojan Bogdanovic...although I don't think we'd be able to afford I think the only thing we'd have available is the Exception for ~9mil and he'd demand more unless he just wants to come here and is willing to bypass a few mil.

as for philosophy...I'd go back to Warriors basics pre-Durant. Splash Brothers offense.

Splash Brothers offense, zero defense. that team will be lucky to get to the 2nd round in PS.

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