DeMarcus Cousins: Resign or Let Him Walk?
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I would rather have an athletic long rim runner with this squad.
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Badly Browned wrote:It's a no brainer to offer Cousins the 20% Non-Bird raise, imo.
Unfortunately for US?, his recent injury is going to depress his value again, so that might end up being enough to keep him.
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whatisacenter wrote:I would rather have an athletic long rim runner with this squad.
Like it or not that's probably going to be Damian Jones in that role.
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SFrush wrote:whatisacenter wrote:I would rather have an athletic long rim runner with this squad.
Like it or not that's probably going to be Damian Jones in that role.
I am fine with that and possibly add Dewayne Dedmon.
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whatisacenter wrote:SFrush wrote:whatisacenter wrote:I would rather have an athletic long rim runner with this squad.
Like it or not that's probably going to be Damian Jones in that role.
I am fine with that and possibly add Dewayne Dedmon.
I'd love to have Dedmon, but he's coming off his best year. He'll be 30 next season, probably his last shot at a decent, multi-year contract, maybe out of the W's price range.
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xdrta+ wrote:whatisacenter wrote:SFrush wrote:
Like it or not that's probably going to be Damian Jones in that role.
I am fine with that and possibly add Dewayne Dedmon.
I'd love to have Dedmon, but he's coming off his best year. He'll be 30 next season, probably his last shot at a decent, multi-year contract, maybe out of the W's price range.
I also tend to think that he may get an offer out of our price range. If not, he would be a great add. But only if Curry signed off on the deal. Remember Dedmon set a dirty screen back in 2017 where he tried to take out Curry's knee - definitely not cool.
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I think I let Cousins walk no matter what the cost. Because it wouldn't be less than it was this year, and it's obvious to me he's not a great fit.
We need defense, passing, screen setting, shot blocking, and finish lobs in our center. Lot to ask without much cash.
We need defense, passing, screen setting, shot blocking, and finish lobs in our center. Lot to ask without much cash.
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The guy who might be playing himself into a much bigger contract (probably not here) may be Looney instead of Cousins.
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HiRez wrote:The guy who might be playing himself into a much bigger contract (probably not here) may be Looney instead of Cousins.
At least we have Bird rights on Looney, correct? So we can sign him as long as Lacob is willing to write the check.
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Mylie10 wrote:I think I let Cousins walk no matter what the cost. Because it wouldn't be less than it was this year, and it's obvious to me he's not a great fit.
We need defense, passing, screen setting, shot blocking, and finish lobs in our center. Lot to ask without much cash.
Agreed.
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Samurai wrote:HiRez wrote:The guy who might be playing himself into a much bigger contract (probably not here) may be Looney instead of Cousins.
At least we have Bird rights on Looney, correct? So we can sign him as long as Lacob is willing to write the check.
The Warriors have Looney's Bird rights, but who knows how much they're willing to pay. If they end up in tax territory, with the repeater tax it will cost them about 4 times the salary in tax. Personally, I don't think he'll get much in the way of offers. In spite of making a few jump shots, he's still an undersized, non-shooting center. The market just isn't there, IMO.
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I'd be fine with him coming back. He's not ideal, but he is definitely skilled and when he bought in on defense he had some really good games.
I would be fine with having the same set of bigs next year as this year overall really. Cousins, Looney, Jones, Bell, Jerebko.
I would be fine with having the same set of bigs next year as this year overall really. Cousins, Looney, Jones, Bell, Jerebko.
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Scoots1994 wrote:I'd be fine with him coming back. He's not ideal, but he is definitely skilled and when he bought in on defense he had some really good games.
I would be fine with having the same set of bigs next year as this year overall really. Cousins, Looney, Jones, Bell, Jerebko.
I agree. Very few would argue that he is a "perfect fit" with this team, but the team dynamic in terms of strengths and tendencies could be different if KD leaves. KD is such a unique offensive weapon. If we didn't have KD, Cousins' iso tendencies may be more critical to our offense even if it may not be the most aesthetically pleasing form of offense from a fan perspective. And while many are quick to point out his deficiencies, few acknowledge how good his passing is and how his passing does fit with this team.
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HiRez wrote:The guy who might be playing himself into a much bigger contract (probably not here) may be Looney instead of Cousins.
Most likely here.
With all of the young players brought in during this run, Looney is the only one who is truly panning out. So I fully expect the Warriors to pay him to stay.
Signing free agents outside of our own will be extremely tough and mostly just minimum contracts and the MLE potentially.
So paying for one of our own to stay, frees up our other limited resources to sign and add depth.
Yes we sign Looney, and we give him a solid number. I don't care how much it costs Lacob.
Also, I believe he's only scratching the surface of his offensive ability. When he was young he had a fairly complete offensive repretoire. His injuries detailed that development and forced him into being a basic skills guy. But as this health has improved and his confidence has grown, we see glimpses of what he might be able to do offensively on more of a regular basis.
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I'm not worried about Looney. Unlike last summer we have his bird rights.
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If you could have Brook Lopez or Boogie Cousins who would you want?
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Badly Browned wrote:It's a no brainer to offer Cousins the 20% Non-Bird raise, imo.
Unfortunately for Cousins, his recent injury is going to depress his value again, so that might end up being enough to keep him.
Yep. feel awful for Boogs and I hate to say it but in that moment I was like well damn at least we may be able to keep him now. This was probably the only way
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Scoots1994 wrote:If you could have Brook Lopez or Boogie Cousins who would you want?
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But to answer your question, Brooks. Because he has transformed his game into a prolific 3 point shooter. Both suck at defense.
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Mylie10 wrote:Scoots1994 wrote:If you could have Brook Lopez or Boogie Cousins who would you want?
Robin
But to answer your question, Brooks. Because he has transformed his game into a prolific 3 point shooter. Both suck at defense.
I think their defense is under-rated. But no question they are not great defenders at center. But on that front we are spoiled by Bogut.
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It depends on what the other teams are willing to pay.
Did the Achilles Injury cause the quad injury? Will he keep getting injuries?
What will the Warriors have for offense when starters rest. 2 out of 3 of Curry, KD and Klay should be on the floor at all times and perhaps KD won't be here. Warriors bench doesn't have a decent first or 2nd option role scorer. Cousins could score. Cousins could Box out better than Zaza could Box out. I am still wary off how Stevie Adams made Bogut and Draymond look weak in 2016. Maybe Bogut was injured. I want a Zaza strong guy on the bench and cousins is one of the few really strong guys that have skills. Cousins may have called his own number too much but he can fit into the Warriors passing game. Cousins can really pass.
The rim runners do fit well with the Warriors or at least JaVale made it look that way. Damian Jones did not make it look that way. You could play Curry at off guard and Klay at small forward with a mobile shot blocking center and Draymond without being worried about Curry and Klay getting posted up. Then you could play a point guard that can stop the opposing point guard dribble if you wanted to.
Rim runner, Looney and Cousins might be too much investment in Centers unless you call Jones and Bell the rim runners.
Cousins knows the Warriors now which increases Cousins value to the Warriors. The Warriors do have other things they need to spend on but the Zaza strong man type role will cost the Warriors some money anyway unless the Warriors are OK to have a barely playable strong guy or no strong guy.
It comes down to money. If Cousins is priced as being able to play a full season as a 1st or 2nd option then the Warriors can't afford him.
Did the Achilles Injury cause the quad injury? Will he keep getting injuries?
What will the Warriors have for offense when starters rest. 2 out of 3 of Curry, KD and Klay should be on the floor at all times and perhaps KD won't be here. Warriors bench doesn't have a decent first or 2nd option role scorer. Cousins could score. Cousins could Box out better than Zaza could Box out. I am still wary off how Stevie Adams made Bogut and Draymond look weak in 2016. Maybe Bogut was injured. I want a Zaza strong guy on the bench and cousins is one of the few really strong guys that have skills. Cousins may have called his own number too much but he can fit into the Warriors passing game. Cousins can really pass.
The rim runners do fit well with the Warriors or at least JaVale made it look that way. Damian Jones did not make it look that way. You could play Curry at off guard and Klay at small forward with a mobile shot blocking center and Draymond without being worried about Curry and Klay getting posted up. Then you could play a point guard that can stop the opposing point guard dribble if you wanted to.
Rim runner, Looney and Cousins might be too much investment in Centers unless you call Jones and Bell the rim runners.
Cousins knows the Warriors now which increases Cousins value to the Warriors. The Warriors do have other things they need to spend on but the Zaza strong man type role will cost the Warriors some money anyway unless the Warriors are OK to have a barely playable strong guy or no strong guy.
It comes down to money. If Cousins is priced as being able to play a full season as a 1st or 2nd option then the Warriors can't afford him.
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