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Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:09 pm
by Mylie10
Scoots1994 wrote:I want Grant Williams. Unfortunately the whole NBA is looking for 6'7" all around smart basketball players who can defend up and down position now.
Warriors worked him out yesterday.
He's a really strong tweener lol. There have been some Draymond comparisons, but I don't get it. Williams is in great shape and a good scorer, decent rebounder. Not a great defender. I guess if your 6'7" and a power forward you get the Draymond comparison.
I still think we need a big guard or wing who plays lights out defense. MATISSE THYBULLE.
But he is trending out of our range. TERRANCE MANN is another good wing defender who shut down Ja Morant.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:11 pm
by Mylie10
FunkNinerFlex wrote:Since the Warriors are in “win as much as they can mode”, do they take a player who is older and may be able to contribute immediately such as SF Cameron Johnson of UNC or PG Ty Jerome of Virginia? Or take a young big man such as C Nicolas Claxton of Georgia? He’s a modern day big but is raw with exciting potential if he decides to stay in the draft.
I’m a sucker for potential so I’m leaning toward a big like Claxton lol
I like all 3 for different reasons. I feel that Cam Johnson might be the only one of those 3 available when we pick. But he might be gone as well.
Admiral Schofield is a dude. Big wing.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:38 am
by cdubbz
KevinMcreynolds wrote:cdubbz wrote:BolBol
I hope he drops to us because of the injury, could be a nice project like Looney. I think because of name recognition he’ll go way before us though.
Can't see him falling below 20 tbh. Nice kid it seems with extreme skill for his height.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 4:09 am
by azwfan
From my extensive scouting (nbadraft.net + YouTube) I really want Ty Jerome or Jordan Nwora.
If they don't make it to us, there's a number of players who look interesting but i'm not all that excited about yet.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:05 am
by Scoots1994
Samurai wrote:Scoots1994 wrote:Samurai wrote:Isn't $10M/year double what Kerr is making (5 years for $25M)? How confident are you that Kerr or the other assistant coaches will be comfortable with this>?
They would probably understand. And coaches salaries are not generally released.
I have my doubts. If your company hired a person to the same position level that you have except a) the new person has zero experience and you have several years of experience and b) the new person would be making double what your boss makes, you would "understand"? I am very skeptical.
Do you think coaches are upset about how much Curry makes?
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:10 am
by Scoots1994
CalGTR wrote:We need a Kyle Kuzma-type hit with that late first round or second round pick. Kuzma was second round. He's not a perfect player, but he has length and can get shots. We definitely need to start hitting on some draft picks again. Hopefully Evans will become playable. It will be great to get Damian Jones back, as he looked to be developing nicely. It will be interesting to see who ends up with our mid-level exemption this year. Gotta have someone that can truly contribute. This squad can continue to compete for championships post-KD (assuming he leaves, which I hope he does not), but we need to add a wing that can shoot and play defense somehow. And, we'll definitely need to add someone to the roster that can bring the ball up and initiate the offense to replace Shaun. Tough to do, but that's where we'll be if KD leaves.
"need to start hitting on some draft picks again" ... The Warriors have had 3 LATE round picks in the last 6 years, and you said you like Jones enough to hope he continues his development, Looney is killing it this playoffs, and it's too early to give up on Evans. Add to them McCaw who looked good before losing his mind, and Bell who has been doing well and even got one all-defensive team vote. And it's not like the Warriors have a lot of spare PT to give to youngsters.
Not many teams have done better with less in the history of the NBA.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:19 am
by Scoots1994
FunkNinerFlex wrote:Since the Warriors are in “win as much as they can mode”, do they take a player who is older and may be able to contribute immediately such as SF Cameron Johnson of UNC or PG Ty Jerome of Virginia? Or take a young big man such as C Nicolas Claxton of Georgia? He’s a modern day big but is raw with exciting potential if he decides to stay in the draft.
I’m a sucker for potential so I’m leaning toward a big like Claxton lol
Need to keep looking for long multi-purpose wing players.
That said, the choices late in the draft are either limited athletes who were team players or good college producers, or old, or very raw athletes.
I like Johnson and Jerome and Claxton, but I like Grant Williams more.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:24 am
by Scoots1994
KevinMcreynolds wrote:cdubbz wrote:BolBol
I hope he drops to us because of the injury, could be a nice project like Looney. I think because of name recognition he’ll go way before us though.
His Godfather just sold his house in NY and may be moving back to the Bay. Would be nice to have him back around the team too.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:26 am
by Scoots1994
Mylie10 wrote:Scoots1994 wrote:I want Grant Williams. Unfortunately the whole NBA is looking for 6'7" all around smart basketball players who can defend up and down position now.
Warriors worked him out yesterday.
He's a really strong tweener lol. There have been some Draymond comparisons, but I don't get it. Williams is in great shape and a good scorer, decent rebounder. Not a great defender. I guess if your 6'7" and a power forward you get the Draymond comparison.
I still think we need a big guard or wing who plays lights out defense. MATISSE THYBULLE.
But he is trending out of our range. TERRANCE MANN is another good wing defender who shut down Ja Morant.
Williams has not been in ideal shape and is an above average defender. And there is nothing but compromise at the bottom of the 1st round.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:47 am
by Samurai
Scoots1994 wrote:Samurai wrote:Scoots1994 wrote:
They would probably understand. And coaches salaries are not generally released.
I have my doubts. If your company hired a person to the same position level that you have except a) the new person has zero experience and you have several years of experience and b) the new person would be making double what your boss makes, you would "understand"? I am very skeptical.
Do you think coaches are upset about how much Curry makes?
I have no idea since coaches typically do not discuss player salaries. But unless you have different information available to you, Curry is a player and not a coach. If Curry were an assistant coach and made his current salary, I absolutely believe that the other coaches would be more than upset!
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 5:32 am
by azwfan
Granted not in the first round, but i want us to take a shot on Smailagic.
Maybe we can trade up in the 2nd rd with some cash.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 1:29 pm
by Scoots1994
Samurai wrote:Scoots1994 wrote:Samurai wrote:I have my doubts. If your company hired a person to the same position level that you have except a) the new person has zero experience and you have several years of experience and b) the new person would be making double what your boss makes, you would "understand"? I am very skeptical.
Do you think coaches are upset about how much Curry makes?
I have no idea since coaches typically do not discuss player salaries. But unless you have different information available to you, Curry is a player and not a coach. If Curry were an assistant coach and made his current salary, I absolutely believe that the other coaches would be more than upset!
I think the coaches would understand that part of his pay is back pay for his playing days.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 1:30 pm
by Scoots1994
azwfan wrote:Granted not in the first round, but i want us to take a shot on Smailagic.
Maybe we can trade up in the 2nd rd with some cash.
I think they'll be able to take him without moving up.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:33 am
by Mylie10
azwfan wrote:Granted not in the first round, but i want us to take a shot on Smailagic.
Maybe we can trade up in the 2nd rd with some cash.
I think the Warriors are very much hoping they can grab him in the 2nd. They have invested in him. They actually traded for him in the G league.
The kid reminds me of Joe Ingles. He very skilled, and I was kind of blown away when I found out how young he was.
Needs to add muscle, but he's very skilled and a good shooter. Pretty decent rebounder, and crafty around the hoop.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:48 am
by floppymoose
azwfan wrote:Granted not in the first round, but i want us to take a shot on Smailagic.
Maybe we can trade up in the 2nd rd with some cash.
Not sure I want Smalagic, but I definitely want that jersey.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:48 am
by azwfan
Mylie10 wrote:azwfan wrote:Granted not in the first round, but i want us to take a shot on Smailagic.
Maybe we can trade up in the 2nd rd with some cash.
I think the Warriors are very much hoping they can grab him in the 2nd. They have invested in him. They actually traded for him in the G league.
The kid reminds me of Joe Ingles. He very skilled, and I was kind of blown away when I found out how young he was.
Needs to add muscle, but he's very skilled and a good shooter. Pretty decent rebounder, and crafty around the hoop.
I just like how he looks competitive related to his peers... haha. I know its ridiculous to draw such conclusions from highlights, but i get the feeling he's really competitive (which for me = works hard and isn't afraid). Guys like that find a way to get on the court. Obviously, if he doesn't have the skill he won't make it - but i like what i've seen. Game wise he looks kinda Galinarish to me, but i can roll with Ingles too. Either way, i want him in the 2nd and Jordan Nwora in the 1st.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:58 am
by Mylie10
azwfan wrote:Mylie10 wrote:azwfan wrote:Granted not in the first round, but i want us to take a shot on Smailagic.
Maybe we can trade up in the 2nd rd with some cash.
I think the Warriors are very much hoping they can grab him in the 2nd. They have invested in him. They actually traded for him in the G league.
The kid reminds me of Joe Ingles. He very skilled, and I was kind of blown away when I found out how young he was.
Needs to add muscle, but he's very skilled and a good shooter. Pretty decent rebounder, and crafty around the hoop.
I just like how he looks competitive related to his peers... haha. I know its ridiculous to draw such conclusions from highlights, but i get the feeling he's really competitive (which for me = works hard and isn't afraid). Guys like that find a way to get on the court. Obviously, if he doesn't have the skill he won't make it - but i like what i've seen. Game wise he looks kinda Galinarish to me, but i can roll with Ingles too. Either way, i want him in the 2nd and Jordan Nwora in the 1st.
I really like Nwora too. I 5h8nk we have some great options with our first. I could argue like 6 different guys.
I watched Smiley in a couple of Santa Cruz games and I was thinking the Warriors should take a look at bringing him up. Then someone told me his age and that he wasn't eligible for a call up. Whoops, jokes on me.
He's a keeper if we can nab him in the 2nd.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 3:28 am
by Mylie10
Jordan Nwora decided to go back to school. Sucks because he was a nice fit.
I really want Matisse Thybulle but I fear he'll be taken before we can grab him. Ty Jerome is good and fits in a different way.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 3:50 am
by Scoots1994
I'd like to add Josh Perkins and Zach Norvell from the Zags as UDFA. Both would come in ready to play the Warriors system, and would help the SC Warriors better model the big team.
Re: Draft team needs
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 4:10 am
by Scoots1994
Mylie10 wrote:I really want Matisse Thybulle but I fear he'll be taken before we can grab him. Ty Jerome is good and fits in a different way.
As usual there is little consensus below around pick 15, and I've seen Thybulle as high as 17 and as low as 33. Kevin Porter I've seen up in the top 10 and in the 2nd round, but I doubt he makes it to 28 and he may be too much of a head case for the Warriors. I've seen Brandon Clarke as low as 29 and he'd be a good pickup too. Ty Jerome, Grant Williams, Bruno Fernando, Cam Johnson, KZ Okpala, Luguentz Dort, Nic Claxton, Talen Horton-Tucker, Dylan Windler, Admiral Schofield, etc. There are a lot of players out there that could help the Warriors.