It's gonna be an interesting off season since a lot of free agents should be interested in starting for the dubs.

[killmongrel]

Klay and Durant out for the year or most of it. That means two opening spots for free agents who want to play alongside Curry and Draymond. Boogie might find the prospect of being a driving force for the offense to be attractive as well.

[East Bay Sports]

Much much much rather pay Looney than Boogie.

As for the starting spot, sure, they may appeal to some, but they wouldn't be getting starter caliber pay so that's a pretty big drawback.

[killmongrel]

Much much much rather pay Looney than Boogie.

As for the starting spot, sure, they may appeal to some, but they wouldn't be getting starter caliber pay so that's a pretty big drawback.

It's not about paying one or the other. The Warriors do not have the MLE to spend if Boogie walks. Since the team has Looney's bird rights, they can also pay him what other teams might offer. It's just going to get expensive.

[xdrta+]

Much much much rather pay Looney than Boogie.

As for the starting spot, sure, they may appeal to some, but they wouldn't be getting starter caliber pay so that's a pretty big drawback.

It's not about paying one or the other. The Warriors do not have the MLE to spend if Boogie walks. Since the team has Looney's bird rights, they can also pay him what other teams might offer. It's just going to get expensive.

What does the bolded part mean? Why wouldn't they have the MLE?

[jamesnamida]

Bucks looking to unload ersan with draft compensation.
Perfect place to trade Livingston since he is retiring?
Ersan would be a decent 4 off the bench.


Or reunite the curry bros.
Curry subs in for curry.
Or curry curry 1/2 and outshoot the other team and play zone D haha

[WindyCityBorn]

With what money?

[donkeylips]

I was thinking of a Livingston for illyasova swap

[azwfan]

I was thinking of a Livingston for illyasova swap

Not what i was looking for, but Illy is an NBA player and we get a 1st out of it. A 1st who we will likely be wishing was someone else a few months into the season, but a 1st none-the-less.

[donkeylips]

He’s someone that can knockdown the open 3s

[whatisacenter]

Much much much rather pay Looney than Boogie.

As for the starting spot, sure, they may appeal to some, but they wouldn't be getting starter caliber pay so that's a pretty big drawback.

It's not about paying one or the other. The Warriors do not have the MLE to spend if Boogie walks. Since the team has Looney's bird rights, they can also pay him what other teams might offer. It's just going to get expensive.

bolded part is incorrect. The Warriors can resign Boogie for last years salary plus 20% which I believe comes to 6.84 million. They have the MLE whether he stays or if he leaves. Beyond that they will have veteran minimum contracts to offer and possibly and Disabled Player Exception of 9 million for KD if he stays or Klay if his prognosis it to miss the entire season. Of course all that will be hit with the luxury tax but oh well, it's not my money.

[CalGTR]

Much much much rather pay Looney than Boogie.

As for the starting spot, sure, they may appeal to some, but they wouldn't be getting starter caliber pay so that's a pretty big drawback.

It's not about paying one or the other. The Warriors do not have the MLE to spend if Boogie walks. Since the team has Looney's bird rights, they can also pay him what other teams might offer. It's just going to get expensive.

bolded part is incorrect. The Warriors can resign Boogie for last years salary plus 20% which I believe comes to 6.84 million. They have the MLE whether he stays or if he leaves. Beyond that they will have veteran minimum contracts to offer and possibly and Disabled Player Exception of 9 million for KD if he stays or Klay if his prognosis it to miss the entire season. Of course all that will be hit with the luxury tax but oh well, it's not my money.

Seems like the DPE would be tricky, timing-wise. How does it work? We'd need KD to sign (takes us to what, July 7?), and then some NBA league office committee has to get together to determine whether the W's deserve the exception. I don't know how long that takes, but it seems that free-agency will be all but over by the time the W's know whether they have that money available. I'm sure they'll be talking to various players as possibilities, but without a decision on the DPE it would be tough to get a desired free agent to wait around, seems to me.

[Sleepy51]

Anybody want Rondo? Doesn't solve shooting, but it gives us a disruptive defender to cover opposing best ballhandlers and he can still be the ballhandler when Curry is operating off ball and/or resting. Kind of a poor man's Iguodala?

[xdrta+]

I was thinking of a Livingston for illyasova swap

The Bucks are looking to shed Ersan's $7M salary. The Warriors would have to guarantee Livingston's full $7.6M salary to make the trade, and the Bucks are no better off. They'll be looking to unload Ersan and not take any salary back.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Anybody want Rondo? Doesn't solve shooting, but it gives us a disruptive defender to cover opposing best ballhandlers and he can still be the ballhandler when Curry is operating off ball and/or resting. Kind of a poor man's Iguodala?

I am a Rondo fan but not for the Warriors. For a normal team I value Rondo's defense and playmaking and I don't mind Rondo being ball dominant. The Warriors system requires no ball dominance. If Rondo has the ball you are wasting the passing ability of Draymond and Iguodala.

I do think Steph can move to off guard defensively but I want defense and shooting rather than deference and passing from the guy playing point guard with Steph . Pairs of Draymond and Curry or Iguodala and Curry or Iguodala and Draymond takes care of the passing.

If Draymond and Iguodala are on the floor together the other guys better be shooters.

[xdrta+]

It's not about paying one or the other. The Warriors do not have the MLE to spend if Boogie walks. Since the team has Looney's bird rights, they can also pay him what other teams might offer. It's just going to get expensive.

bolded part is incorrect. The Warriors can resign Boogie for last years salary plus 20% which I believe comes to 6.84 million. They have the MLE whether he stays or if he leaves. Beyond that they will have veteran minimum contracts to offer and possibly and Disabled Player Exception of 9 million for KD if he stays or Klay if his prognosis it to miss the entire season. Of course all that will be hit with the luxury tax but oh well, it's not my money.

Seems like the DPE would be tricky, timing-wise. How does it work? We'd need KD to sign (takes us to what, July 7?), and then some NBA league office committee has to get together to determine whether the W's deserve the exception. I don't know how long that takes, but it seems that free-agency will be all but over by the time the W's know whether they have that money available. I'm sure they'll be talking to various players as possibilities, but without a decision on the DPE it would be tough to get a desired free agent to wait around, seems to me.

The Warriors can apply for a DPE anytime between July 1 and Jan 15, and it expires on March 10. There's not really any downside to getting it, for instance, you would only pay tax if you use it. No reason not to apply for it and hang onto to it.

Edit: Of course, it goes without saying that they have to have Durant under contract before applying.

[East Bay Sports]

Anybody want Rondo? Doesn't solve shooting, but it gives us a disruptive defender to cover opposing best ballhandlers and he can still be the ballhandler when Curry is operating off ball and/or resting. Kind of a poor man's Iguodala?

No.

I'd take Pat Bev but **** Rondo

[donkeylips]

I was thinking of a Livingston for illyasova swap

The Bucks are looking to shed Ersan's $7M salary. The Warriors would have to guarantee Livingston's full $7.6M salary to make the trade, and the Bucks are no better off. They'll be looking to unload Ersan and not take any salary back.

If he retires does it still count towards their cap?

[xdrta+]

I was thinking of a Livingston for illyasova swap

The Bucks are looking to shed Ersan's $7M salary. The Warriors would have to guarantee Livingston's full $7.6M salary to make the trade, and the Bucks are no better off. They'll be looking to unload Ersan and not take any salary back.

If he retires does it still count towards their cap?

If a player retires while under contract any money already paid to the player counts towards team salary.

Edit: On retirement--If both the player and team agree, they might negotiate and he can be placed on a team's Voluntarily Retired List. Similar to a buyout, but he can't sign with another team. Any money they still owe him goes on team salary. They could also just waive and stretch his salary, but if they were going to do that, they could do it with Ersan.

[DAWill1128]

Anybody want Rondo? Doesn't solve shooting, but it gives us a disruptive defender to cover opposing best ballhandlers and he can still be the ballhandler when Curry is operating off ball and/or resting. Kind of a poor man's Iguodala?

I am a Rondo fan but not for the Warriors. For a normal team I value Rondo's defense and playmaking and I don't mind Rondo being ball dominant. The Warriors system requires no ball dominance. If Rondo has the ball you are wasting the passing ability of Draymond and Iguodala.

I do think Steph can move to off guard defensively but I want defense and shooting rather than deference and passing from the guy playing point guard with Steph . Pairs of Draymond and Curry or Iguodala and Curry or Iguodala and Draymond takes care of the passing.

If Draymond and Iguodala are on the floor together the other guys better be shooters.

I was suggesting Rubio as opposed to Rondo in another thread, the Jazz want to move on and we are one of the only places with a starting position. Rubio is a bigger point guard who is pretty good on defense. I think Rubio can take the opposing teams better guard, and this way we always have Steph or Rubio on the floor to run the offense. I think Steph, Rubio, and Draymond could make for a fun passing team and open up easy buckets for the other guys on the floor. Not to mention I think Rubio is a better shooter than Rondo and puts the team first. Worst case scenario he fills in Livingstons role.

If Klay comes back this season even sliding him to small forward on defense might be a good idea till he gets his legs back. Allow Andre to go back to the 6th man role. I would bet on a team with Looney, Dray, Klay, Steph, and Rubio starting 5 winning the West.

[donkeylips]

With many teams with cap space, do you think he would take the mle, and with the warriors over other teams?