2019 NBA Draft Thread

[The-Power]

Hope Lacob holds him accountable for the past two drafts and realizes he hasn’t done much, unless it lands in his lap.

With that you mean Evans? Because two years ago we got Bell, to which your response was:

Great pick.

Generally speaking, all the judgements are way too premature with the information asymmetry. People were excited about Bell and McCaw while opposing fans complained about the rich getting richer and now people don't hold these picks in high regard any longer. Looney was written off by many after his first year and now everybody wants him back. The draft at that point is a crapshoot, and there are so many contingencies that it'll take a while to see how the draft choice worked out.

Sure, you can question strategies such as taking a player projected to be available in the second first with your first round pick. But again, we do not have the same information available to us – whether other teams wanted the player, whether he was so impressive during workouts or considered such a great fit that they did not want to take the risk. As to which players will work out in that 25-40 draft range: we'll see. Way too early to judge either way. To call for ‘accountability’ for Myers because of the draft choices seems knee-jerky.

[jamesnamida]

Sound to me like the dubs had guys they wanted going in and didn’t have the balls to adjust when better guys became available.

[Swift21]

I like all 3 players, but if I had it to do over I'd take Porter or Edwards.

That said, I think Poole will have a chance to be good for the Warriors.

I wasn't that high on Edwards. His playmaking was underwhelming the past two seasons and he's very limited defensively.

[Bizzy_Bee]

Outside of Paschall, this draft is a total disaster. We used 2 out of 3 picks on guys who most likely weren't even going to be drafted, in a draft where a lot of good talent fell considerably.

But you know...hope for the best of course...

Hahaha, this pity party is out of control. Which of these guys were going undrafted?

[wco81]

I think one strategy I would have liked to have seen them do is trade multiple picks, which are expected to be in the late 20s, for a top 10 pick.

This core of stars don't have time to wait on projects to contribute. They have to be able to contribute minutes sooner than later.

But a top 10 pick would also have a bigger cap hit and it may be that they'd rather fill the roster with several of these low picks than a top 10 pick who might be a reliable rotation player, not requiring long development, long stints in the G League, etc.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Bring back Jerry West.

Jerry West did a good job with Klay and Dray, but all the other picks during his regime were pretty meh. HB is a role player on a good team and a solid starter on a bad team, you want more than that from the 7th pick. Festus never amounted to anything. Looney worked out, but it took 3 years before he contributed anything. Damian Jones is a bust.

[Scoots1994]

I like all 3 players, but if I had it to do over I'd take Porter or Edwards.

That said, I think Poole will have a chance to be good for the Warriors.

I wasn't that high on Edwards. His playmaking was underwhelming the past two seasons and he's very limited defensively.

I liked Edwards from a Barbosa point of view. Bring a guy in to go a million miles an hour, draw fouls and score quick and then get subbed back out.

[Scoots1994]

I think one strategy I would have liked to have seen them do is trade multiple picks, which are expected to be in the late 20s, for a top 10 pick.

This core of stars don't have time to wait on projects to contribute. They have to be able to contribute minutes sooner than later.

But a top 10 pick would also have a bigger cap hit and it may be that they'd rather fill the roster with several of these low picks than a top 10 pick who might be a reliable rotation player, not requiring long development, long stints in the G League, etc.

I don't think they have anything near enough assets to get a top 10 pick.

Maybe Curry and Green will be "injured" and they'll get a top 10 pick naturally next year.

[Scoots1994]

Bring back Jerry West.

Jerry West did a good job with Klay and Dray, but all the other picks during his regime were pretty meh. HB is a role player on a good team and a solid starter on a bad team, you want more than that from the 7th pick. Festus never amounted to anything. Looney worked out, but it took 3 years before he contributed anything. Damian Jones is a bust.

Festus' injuries were what did him in, but he was really looking good before the wheels fell off.

Jones is not a bust yet.

The reality is that outside of the top 10 picks in the NBA draft ANY level of play is almost a success. Only top 10 picks can really "bust" since there are such low expectations after that. It's all just hope.

[Left*My*Heart]

Hope Lacob holds him accountable for the past two drafts and realizes he hasn’t done much, unless it lands in his lap.

With that you mean Evans? Because two years ago we got Bell, to which your response was:

Great pick.

Generally speaking, all the judgements are way too premature with the information asymmetry. People were excited about Bell and McCaw while opposing fans complained about the rich getting richer and now people don't hold these picks in high regard any longer. Looney was written off by many after his first year and now everybody wants him back. The draft at that point is a crapshoot, and there are so many contingencies that it'll take a while to see how the draft choice worked out.

Sure, you can question strategies such as taking a player projected to be available in the second first with your first round pick. But again, we do not have the same information available to us – whether other teams wanted the player, whether he was so impressive during workouts or considered such a great fit that they did not want to take the risk. As to which players will work out in that 25-40 draft range: we'll see. Way too early to judge either way. To call for ‘accountability’ for Myers because of the draft choices seems knee-jerky.

I was referring to this draft and last seasons. Myers still had scouting and input from the guys who left for the Hawks in 2017. My criticism of Myers goes beyond his drafting. The Warriors would not have won a single championship had Myers had his way. He would have gutted the team for Kevin Love. I’m afraid now he has too much influence on decisions and very few to keep him in check.


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[Left*My*Heart]

Bring back Jerry West.

Jerry West did a good job with Klay and Dray, but all the other picks during his regime were pretty meh. HB is a role player on a good team and a solid starter on a bad team, you want more than that from the 7th pick. Festus never amounted to anything. Looney worked out, but it took 3 years before he contributed anything. Damian Jones is a bust.

Back in that day, decisions were made by committee. Barnes was Myers choice. West’s guys were already off the board. Lacob wanted Drummond, but got no support.

Jones and Looney were high value guys who would have been taken much earlier if they weren’t banged up. Looney would have been a lottery pick.


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[Warriors Analyst]

Bring back Jerry West.

Jerry West did a good job with Klay and Dray, but all the other picks during his regime were pretty meh. HB is a role player on a good team and a solid starter on a bad team, you want more than that from the 7th pick. Festus never amounted to anything. Looney worked out, but it took 3 years before he contributed anything. Damian Jones is a bust.

Back in that day, decisions were made by committee. Barnes was Myers choice. West’s guys were already off the board. Lacob wanted Drummond, but got no support.

Jones and Looney were high value guys who would have been taken much earlier if they weren’t banged up. Looney would have been a lottery pick.


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I was at the game in 2012 when Brandon Rush went down with his ACL tear. It was Golden State of Mind's fan appreciation night and I snagged a pair of reasonably priced tickets to watch the game with my dad and one of the perks was a post game Q+A with Jerry West. Someone asked West about what would happen after Rush got hurt and West gave a very unenthusiastic answer about Barnes and basically insinuated that he wasn't really ready for big minutes but may have to do it anyway. Barnes definitely didn't have the skill set that West seems to covet. There was also an article written a few years back about Barnes hitting up West to train with him and pick his brain over the offseason. West berated Barnes about how he shot layups like an actual shot, rather than going for finger rolls, which I find hilarious considering how many layups/floaters Barnes bricked in his day.

[KevinMcreynolds]

HB had knuckleball layups

[Ganji]

I just checked 2020 mock draft, and our guy is projected to go to Warriors. That would be something.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2020mock_draft

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[Ganji]

Watch on YouTube

[Mylie10]

What a horrible image

[TB]

Keldon Johnson, picked right after Poole, is starting for the Spurs and getting 14 a game after 3 games...

Went back and looked at my top available when warriors picked, and it was:

Paschall
Johnson
THT
Nowell
Admiral
Dort

So if im looking at the draft board correctly, I would have drafted:
Paschall at 28 (as much as i'd like to say I would have taken Johnson, I had Paschall higher. Solid but maybe not a great pick)
THT at 41 (assuming we dont trade up to get Smiley lol)
Dort at 58 (assuming we dont trade it away)

Apparently I like short stocky dudes.

[Onus]

Keldon Johnson, picked right after Poole, is starting for the Spurs and getting 14 a game after 3 games...

Went back and looked at my top available when warriors picked, and it was:

Paschall
Johnson
THT
Nowell
Admiral
Dort

So if im looking at the draft board correctly, I would have drafted:
Paschall at 28 (as much as i'd like to say I would have taken Johnson, I had Paschall higher. Solid but maybe not a great pick)
THT at 41 (assuming we dont trade up to get Smiley lol)
Dort at 58 (assuming we dont trade it away)

Apparently I like short stocky dudes.

Your draft would've been much better than what happened

[KevinMcreynolds]

it was fun to read the lead up to our pick again, Scoots had things pegged pretty well

[wco81]

Keldon Johnson, picked right after Poole, is starting for the Spurs and getting 14 a game after 3 games...

Went back and looked at my top available when warriors picked, and it was:

Paschall
Johnson
THT
Nowell
Admiral
Dort

So if im looking at the draft board correctly, I would have drafted:
Paschall at 28 (as much as i'd like to say I would have taken Johnson, I had Paschall higher. Solid but maybe not a great pick)
THT at 41 (assuming we dont trade up to get Smiley lol)
Dort at 58 (assuming we dont trade it away)

Apparently I like short stocky dudes.

Your draft would've been much better than what happened

Or there's the possibility that coaching staffs and player development personnel on those other teams got more out of their drafted players than the Warriors development staff has.