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Post#21 » by Samurai » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:33 am

BigRedDog wrote:He doesnt look comfortable handling the ball there. Looks like he's about to carry the ball or perhaps he lost control of it while he was trying to figure out if he should pass it before he turns it over.

To be blunt, this sounds like you are trying to be overly negative. Everyone, including Spellman himself, knows that he was way overweight last season. He weighed 254 at the draft combine and ballooned up to 293 6 months later - in the middle of an NBA season! He went to Hawks trainer (and former Dubs trainer) Chelsea Lane to ask for help and lost 20 pounds. Now with the Dubs, he is putting in extra workouts and is on a stringent nutritionist-crafted diet consisting of eggs and veggies for breakfast, salad for lunch, and fish with vegetables and a grain for dinner.

So the point of this thread is a) can he keep the weight off and b) if he does, can he be a steal for the Dubs? And your posting stuff like "he was heavy and slow last year". That's a given that everybody knows; it isn't relevant to the gist of the thread.
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Post#22 » by Quazza » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:35 am

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BigRedDog wrote:He doesnt look comfortable handling the ball there. Looks like he's about to carry the ball or perhaps he lost control of it while he was trying to figure out if he should pass it before he turns it over.

To be blunt, this sounds like you are trying to be overly negative. Everyone, including Spellman himself, knows that he was way overweight last season. He weighed 254 at the draft combine and ballooned up to 293 6 months later - in the middle of an NBA season! He went to Hawks trainer (and former Dubs trainer) Chelsea Lane to ask for help and lost 20 pounds. Now with the Dubs, he is putting in extra workouts and is on a stringent nutritionist-crafted diet consisting of eggs and veggies for breakfast, salad for lunch, and fish with vegetables and a grain for dinner.

So the point of this thread is a) can he keep the weight off and b) if he does, can he be a steal for the Dubs? And your posting stuff like "he was heavy and slow last year". That's a given that everybody knows; it isn't relevant to the gist of the thread.


where are you seeing this?

(not doubting you - but this is exactly what I was asking about in my post . A link would be great)
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Post#23 » by Samurai » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:39 am

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BigRedDog wrote:He doesnt look comfortable handling the ball there. Looks like he's about to carry the ball or perhaps he lost control of it while he was trying to figure out if he should pass it before he turns it over.

To be blunt, this sounds like you are trying to be overly negative. Everyone, including Spellman himself, knows that he was way overweight last season. He weighed 254 at the draft combine and ballooned up to 293 6 months later - in the middle of an NBA season! He went to Hawks trainer (and former Dubs trainer) Chelsea Lane to ask for help and lost 20 pounds. Now with the Dubs, he is putting in extra workouts and is on a stringent nutritionist-crafted diet consisting of eggs and veggies for breakfast, salad for lunch, and fish with vegetables and a grain for dinner.

So the point of this thread is a) can he keep the weight off and b) if he does, can he be a steal for the Dubs? And your posting stuff like "he was heavy and slow last year". That's a given that everybody knows; it isn't relevant to the gist of the thread.


where are you seeing this?

(not doubting you - but this is exactly what I was asking about in my post . A link would be great)

https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/13/omari-spellman-struggles-with-weight/

This link in the story also chronicles the difficulties he went through with his weight in Atlanta (it was written in January 2019):
https://theathletic.com/773580/2019/01/18/how-hawks-spellman-lost-control-of-his-weight-and-realized-he-needed-a-change/
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Post#24 » by Warriors Analyst » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:26 am

Mylie10 wrote:I'm higher on Spellman than most will be. However, that is dependent on him being is relatively good shape. He's already way down from 293 though.

I think he's going to be that Mo Speights long range 5 we've been looking for. And I think he's going to be pretty decent playing defense. He's very skilled for his size, and if he gets that body right, those skills will show out.


Myers did an interview for Tim Kawakami's podcast a few weeks back and in it he referred to Spellman as a rangy 5, so I think you're spot on with the Mo Buckets comparison, at least in terms of how Kerr will use him. I think that using him at the 5 is a smart way to not be overly concerned about his weight. While he's a littler shorter than most 5's, the league is going small and one assumes he'd be playing minutes in bench heavy lineups where his role will be to bomb 3's. Most teams don't have bruising 5's off the bench that are high volume scorers so Spellman's height disadvantage matters less at the 5 and one assumes he'll be a bit quicker than most of the 5's guarding him.
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Post#25 » by Samurai » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:38 am

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Mylie10 wrote:I'm higher on Spellman than most will be. However, that is dependent on him being is relatively good shape. He's already way down from 293 though.

I think he's going to be that Mo Speights long range 5 we've been looking for. And I think he's going to be pretty decent playing defense. He's very skilled for his size, and if he gets that body right, those skills will show out.


Myers did an interview for Tim Kawakami's podcast a few weeks back and in it he referred to Spellman as a rangy 5, so I think you're spot on with the Mo Buckets comparison, at least in terms of how Kerr will use him. I think that using him at the 5 is a smart way to not be overly concerned about his weight. While he's a littler shorter than most 5's, the league is going small and one assumes he'd be playing minutes in bench heavy lineups where his role will be to bomb 3's. Most teams don't have bruising 5's off the bench that are high volume scorers so Spellman's height disadvantage matters less at the 5 and one assumes he'll be a bit quicker than most of the 5's guarding him.

While he is short (6-9) for a 5, he also has a 7-2 wingspan to help mitigate that. And he clearly has the lower body strength to hold his position. He said he wants his weight to be around his college weight (250's); if he can do that and still shoot (he claimed his shooting stroke stayed the same even when he was 293), he should be a decent stretch 5 for us. And as you point out, we haven't really had that since Mo 'Buckets.
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Post#26 » by killmongrel » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:43 am

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Mylie10 wrote:I'm higher on Spellman than most will be. However, that is dependent on him being is relatively good shape. He's already way down from 293 though.

I think he's going to be that Mo Speights long range 5 we've been looking for. And I think he's going to be pretty decent playing defense. He's very skilled for his size, and if he gets that body right, those skills will show out.


Myers did an interview for Tim Kawakami's podcast a few weeks back and in it he referred to Spellman as a rangy 5, so I think you're spot on with the Mo Buckets comparison, at least in terms of how Kerr will use him. I think that using him at the 5 is a smart way to not be overly concerned about his weight. While he's a littler shorter than most 5's, the league is going small and one assumes he'd be playing minutes in bench heavy lineups where his role will be to bomb 3's. Most teams don't have bruising 5's off the bench that are high volume scorers so Spellman's height disadvantage matters less at the 5 and one assumes he'll be a bit quicker than most of the 5's guarding him.

It's gonna be interesting how the Warriors use Spellman in the first month and how many minutes they give him. But I did suspect that they'd be playing all his minutes at the 5. If so, it makes the most sense. He can come into camp in shape, but not too light. I'm just wondering if that means Looney plays more at the 4. And if that means Paschall gets moved down to the 3. Warriors have a lot of flexibility at the 4 and 5 this year.
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Post#27 » by Samurai » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:00 am

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Mylie10 wrote:I'm higher on Spellman than most will be. However, that is dependent on him being is relatively good shape. He's already way down from 293 though.

I think he's going to be that Mo Speights long range 5 we've been looking for. And I think he's going to be pretty decent playing defense. He's very skilled for his size, and if he gets that body right, those skills will show out.


Myers did an interview for Tim Kawakami's podcast a few weeks back and in it he referred to Spellman as a rangy 5, so I think you're spot on with the Mo Buckets comparison, at least in terms of how Kerr will use him. I think that using him at the 5 is a smart way to not be overly concerned about his weight. While he's a littler shorter than most 5's, the league is going small and one assumes he'd be playing minutes in bench heavy lineups where his role will be to bomb 3's. Most teams don't have bruising 5's off the bench that are high volume scorers so Spellman's height disadvantage matters less at the 5 and one assumes he'll be a bit quicker than most of the 5's guarding him.

It's gonna be interesting how the Warriors use Spellman in the first month and how many minutes they give him. But I did suspect that they'd be playing all his minutes at the 5. If so, it makes the most sense. He can come into camp in shape, but not too light. I'm just wondering if that means Looney plays more at the 4. And if that means Paschall gets moved down to the 3. Warriors have a lot of flexibility at the 4 and 5 this year.

My guess is that the minutes distribution at the 5 will be largely determined by match-ups and how well WCS and Spellman do defensively. But I do like that all three bring something different to the table. Hopefully they all play well - having too many offensive weapons on the bench will be a welcome problem to have after last season!
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Post#28 » by killmongrel » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:10 am

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Myers did an interview for Tim Kawakami's podcast a few weeks back and in it he referred to Spellman as a rangy 5, so I think you're spot on with the Mo Buckets comparison, at least in terms of how Kerr will use him. I think that using him at the 5 is a smart way to not be overly concerned about his weight. While he's a littler shorter than most 5's, the league is going small and one assumes he'd be playing minutes in bench heavy lineups where his role will be to bomb 3's. Most teams don't have bruising 5's off the bench that are high volume scorers so Spellman's height disadvantage matters less at the 5 and one assumes he'll be a bit quicker than most of the 5's guarding him.

It's gonna be interesting how the Warriors use Spellman in the first month and how many minutes they give him. But I did suspect that they'd be playing all his minutes at the 5. If so, it makes the most sense. He can come into camp in shape, but not too light. I'm just wondering if that means Looney plays more at the 4. And if that means Paschall gets moved down to the 3. Warriors have a lot of flexibility at the 4 and 5 this year.

My guess is that the minutes distribution at the 5 will be largely determined by match-ups and how well WCS and Spellman do defensively. But I do like that all three bring something different to the table. Hopefully they all play well - having too many offensive weapons on the bench will be a welcome problem to have after last season!
Right? This is what I've been saying. So many more players this year that can score. Only major question mark is - can they step up defensively. But when you look at what level of defense they have to replicate aside from Iguodala and a 33 year old Shaun Livingston, our bench wasn't the defensive monster some people seemed to think it was.
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Post#29 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:11 pm

Spellman said he struggled with not getting PT in Atlanta, I hope he gets enough early to build the confidence to earn it later.
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Post#30 » by Left*My*Heart » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:04 pm

Hope Green is practicing leg kicks this off season, as he has a lot of targets.


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Post#31 » by Mylie10 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:41 pm

Left*My*Heart wrote:Hope Green is practicing leg kicks this off season, as he has a lot of targets.


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Post#32 » by whatisacenter » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:54 pm

The man is obviously taking the offseason seriously and putting in some work. He is not all the way there yet but he has gotten in much better shape in a short amount of time. Excited to see what he can do coming off the bench next season.
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Post#33 » by killmongrel » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:26 am

whatisacenter wrote:The man is obviously taking the offseason seriously and putting in some work. He is not all the way there yet but he has gotten in much better shape in a short amount of time. Excited to see what he can do coming off the bench next season.


He's looking good. I think getting traded by the Hawks - the Hawks - was a wake up call for him. Now he has a chance to succeed in the best org in the league. If he can't stay motivated for them, then he knows his career is in jeopardy.
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Post#34 » by Quazza » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:31 pm

whatisacenter wrote:The man is obviously taking the offseason seriously and putting in some work. He is not all the way there yet but he has gotten in much better shape in a short amount of time. Excited to see what he can do coming off the bench next season.


That's a fair bit of gut hanging out
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Post#35 » by Mylie10 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:38 pm

Well to me, he's definitely NOT 293 pounds in that video. He's getting up to high for somebody weighing 3 bills.

That in its self is encouraging.
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Post#36 » by Mylie10 » Sun Sep 1, 2019 6:07 pm



Omari just went up several notches based on the shirt choice alone.
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Post#37 » by Jester_ » Sun Sep 1, 2019 10:34 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:The man is obviously taking the offseason seriously and putting in some work. He is not all the way there yet but he has gotten in much better shape in a short amount of time. Excited to see what he can do coming off the bench next season.


That's a fair bit of gut hanging out


I mean this in the nicest way possible Q - this is the most "internet NBA fan" comment of all time :lol:

Need someone to run laser biophotometry on the 30px-ish of gut in the photo to determine exact BF%
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Post#38 » by killmongrel » Sun Sep 1, 2019 10:48 pm

Mylie10 wrote:

Omari just went up several notches based on the shirt choice alone.
It's so clear that he's looking better and better, and yet some people still have some negative things to say. The dude ballooned up to 290+, which is the reason the Hawks rage trade him. The key is if he's able to stay in shape. I think he does.
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Post#39 » by Quazza » Mon Sep 2, 2019 12:48 am

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whatisacenter wrote:The man is obviously taking the offseason seriously and putting in some work. He is not all the way there yet but he has gotten in much better shape in a short amount of time. Excited to see what he can do coming off the bench next season.


That's a fair bit of gut hanging out


I mean this in the nicest way possible Q - this is the most "internet NBA fan" comment of all time :lol:

Need someone to run laser biophotometry on the 30px-ish of gut in the photo to determine exact BF%


hahaha fair

(and I'm really only playing around. Im actually a fan of the kid - won me some fantasy match ups last season )
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Post#40 » by East Bay Sports » Mon Sep 2, 2019 2:15 pm

Dude clearly has the size and some skills NBA teams are looking for from a modern day big. I think he can keep the weight down and contribute.

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