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Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 4:57 am
by RipPizzaGuy
Hey Golden State fellas, Sac fan coming in peace.

Checking in to see your opinions on WCS after the first few games?

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:05 am
by azwfan
RipPizzaGuy wrote:Hey Golden State fellas, Sac fan coming in peace.

Checking in to see your opinions on WCS after the first few games?

He sucks is available in trade talks.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:06 am
by Coxy
He sucks.

Seems like a lazy dude.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:25 am
by Samurai
He is getting off to a very slow start (practicing my diplomatic skills!). Granted he did not get the benefit of a pre-season to get in game shape and learn the system, but he also is not showing any progress in the games he has been in so far. I would expect his first game to suck big-time and then subsequent games show signs of consistently sucking less; such a pattern would give me some confidence that in another week or two he would be mediocre. Unfortunately his suck factor seems to be frustratingly consistent so far.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:42 am
by killmongrel
RipPizzaGuy wrote:Hey Golden State fellas, Sac fan coming in peace.

Checking in to see your opinions on WCS after the first few games?
So far? He's great for tanking.

Thank god we gave Looney the MLE. How is Harrison Barnes?

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 6:17 am
by Bayside
He has a player option next year? If he continues his current trajectory he will be part of the DLO trade or something else.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 6:19 am
by killmongrel
Bayside wrote:He has a player option next year? If he continues his current trajectory he will be part of the DLO trade or something else.


If he continues to play like this, I expect Kerr to tell him straight up to opt out or he's stuck behind Bowman at the 5 spot for the following season.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 7:49 am
by Mylie10
He feelin fine maan

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 8:28 am
by RipPizzaGuy
killmongrel wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:Hey Golden State fellas, Sac fan coming in peace.

Checking in to see your opinions on WCS after the first few games?
So far? He's great for tanking.

Thank god we gave Looney the MLE. How is Harrison Barnes?


Man WCS was a guy I wanted so badly to succeed. I was actually happy he went to GS, I figured if anyone could make him give a damn it was you guys. Dude just lacks any effort, physicality or IQ.

I'm super happy with Barnes. Hes been consistent as hell for us. Rebounds, shoots 3s, can post up, makes the right play, gets to the line. As bad as the rest of our team has been, I'm glad hes been the steady hand. Hes a little overpaid, but worth it to finally have a 3/4 like him.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 8:56 am
by killmongrel
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
killmongrel wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:Hey Golden State fellas, Sac fan coming in peace.

Checking in to see your opinions on WCS after the first few games?
So far? He's great for tanking.

Thank god we gave Looney the MLE. How is Harrison Barnes?


Man WCS was a guy I wanted so badly to succeed. I was actually happy he went to GS, I figured if anyone could make him give a damn it was you guys. Dude just lacks any effort, physicality or IQ.

I'm super happy with Barnes. Hes been consistent as hell for us. Rebounds, shoots 3s, can post up, makes the right play, gets to the line. As bad as the rest of our team has been, I'm glad hes been the steady hand. Hes a little overpaid, but worth it to finally have a 3/4 like him.


It's still early in the season and WCS can improve. But if he doesn't get his **** together, I can see Spellman starting, or even our rookie Smailagic getting the start to shame him into focus. There is no reason WCS should be playing badly even on a tanking team if his end goal is to prove himself and possibly play for the team when we do contend next year.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 10:33 am
by lars_rosenberg
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
killmongrel wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:Hey Golden State fellas, Sac fan coming in peace.

Checking in to see your opinions on WCS after the first few games?
So far? He's great for tanking.

Thank god we gave Looney the MLE. How is Harrison Barnes?


Man WCS was a guy I wanted so badly to succeed. I was actually happy he went to GS, I figured if anyone could make him give a damn it was you guys. Dude just lacks any effort, physicality or IQ.

I'm super happy with Barnes. Hes been consistent as hell for us. Rebounds, shoots 3s, can post up, makes the right play, gets to the line. As bad as the rest of our team has been, I'm glad hes been the steady hand. Hes a little overpaid, but worth it to finally have a 3/4 like him.


I don't follow the Kings enough, but I had the feeling that Barnes trade kind of slowed down last season momentum for SacTo. The team looked like a contender for the playoff and Barnes should have been the final piece to achieve it, but the team actually got worse.
I stopped being a fan of Barnes a long time ago and he has never done anything to change my mind.
He's one of the main reasons GSW lost to the Cavs in 2016, I'll never forgive him for that.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 11:30 am
by BG
lars_rosenberg wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
killmongrel wrote: So far? He's great for tanking.

Thank god we gave Looney the MLE. How is Harrison Barnes?


Man WCS was a guy I wanted so badly to succeed. I was actually happy he went to GS, I figured if anyone could make him give a damn it was you guys. Dude just lacks any effort, physicality or IQ.

I'm super happy with Barnes. Hes been consistent as hell for us. Rebounds, shoots 3s, can post up, makes the right play, gets to the line. As bad as the rest of our team has been, I'm glad hes been the steady hand. Hes a little overpaid, but worth it to finally have a 3/4 like him.


He's one of the main reasons GSW lost to the Cavs in 2016, I'll never forgive him for that.


IRC he had a stretch in the finals where he shot 1-32 or someting like that :nonono:

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 12:44 pm
by svart
I watched last night's game.

I liked him since he was drafted, and was really glad when we signed him, thought the dubs organization will make something out of him.
But damn, this man is lazy. He doesn't even try under the rim sometimes, his body language is awful. I was wondering if it has something to do with the team being so bad and him feeling demotivated, or if this is his normal motor and attitude.

So disappointed. Not sure he has what it takes to turn it around, i think he might me a lost cause already.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 1:32 pm
by Jester_
Terrible at basketball and an idiot

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 2:55 pm
by Warriorfan
WCS will get his 12 and 8 five him time. I'm sure he will be traded at the deadline.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 4:21 pm
by Money_
He had a bad game last night. Was expecting he and Dlo to develop a pick and roll chemistry but they haven't gone to that with those two that much. Or at least, it hasn't been successful. He is not very aggressive on the boards or boxing out. He could be a real leader in that regard for the youth, but that might be asking too much from him. If I don't see any improvement over the next month, I will be in agreement with those above.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 4:46 pm
by Mylie10
Ummm, he set a ton of the screens Russell used to get his points.

I rewatched the game last night after reading all of the Willie comments, and while he wasn't great but any stretch, he did have some good moments on the defensive end. He was also heavily involved in setting the I initial screen DLo was using.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:22 pm
by whatisacenter
it looks like his conditioning is lacking. I saw him asking out of the game just a few minutes into the first quarter. I'm hoping that his camp injury prevented him from getting ready for the season and this is not what the team will get from him on a consistent basis.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:23 pm
by Money_
Mylie10 wrote:Ummm, he set a ton of the screens Russell used to get his points.

I rewatched the game last night after reading all of the Willie comments, and while he wasn't great but any stretch, he did have some good moments on the defensive end. He was also heavily involved in setting the I initial screen DLo was using.


You are right about that, but DLo didn't dish to Willie that much at all. Maybe because of the way Minny was defending it...
other than the initial screen, not much developed after.

Re: Willie Cauley Stein

Posted: Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:33 pm
by RipPizzaGuy
lars_rosenberg wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
killmongrel wrote: So far? He's great for tanking.

Thank god we gave Looney the MLE. How is Harrison Barnes?


Man WCS was a guy I wanted so badly to succeed. I was actually happy he went to GS, I figured if anyone could make him give a damn it was you guys. Dude just lacks any effort, physicality or IQ.

I'm super happy with Barnes. Hes been consistent as hell for us. Rebounds, shoots 3s, can post up, makes the right play, gets to the line. As bad as the rest of our team has been, I'm glad hes been the steady hand. Hes a little overpaid, but worth it to finally have a 3/4 like him.


I don't follow the Kings enough, but I had the feeling that Barnes trade kind of slowed down last season momentum for SacTo. The team looked like a contender for the playoff and Barnes should have been the final piece to achieve it, but the team actually got worse.
I stopped being a fan of Barnes a long time ago and he has never done anything to change my mind.
He's one of the main reasons GSW lost to the Cavs in 2016, I'll never forgive him for that.


Ya I mean, he certainly didn't help us last year. But a lot of that was a young team that failed to incorporate a new player into his role, the other part was downright regression from everyone and not being able to hold leads.

So far this year, hes been our more consistent player. Hes definitely grown a lot since he left GS. I also dont think his time in dallas was a fair showing of his abilities, hes definitely not cut out to he a teams 1st or 2nd offensive option.