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Isaac Okoro.

Plug and play defender, high IQ, solid build, great athleticism and a strong work ethic.

He’s got GSW written all over him. If he can develop a jumper he’ll be an all star for years.

Trade down and get Avdija and/or Okoro later.

Commodor wrote:Isaac Okoro.

Plug and play defender, high IQ, solid build, great athleticism and a strong work ethic.

He’s got GSW written all over him. If he can develop a jumper he’ll be an all star for years.

FOR YEAAAAARS!

Crazy that we could say that about almost any player. If Draymond developed a jumper? Oh man game over would solve a lot of our problems.

I do like Okoro though.

It's been so long since I paid any attention to draft prospects I don't even remember who I like.

KevinMcreynolds wrote:It's been so long since I paid any attention to draft prospects I don't even remember who I like.

It’s been so long that Emoni Bates is now draft eligible.

Commodor wrote:Isaac Okoro.

Plug and play defender, high IQ, solid build, great athleticism and a strong work ethic.

He’s got GSW written all over him. If he can develop a jumper he’ll be an all star for years.

you can say that about a lot of players

but yes, I like Okoro and he's one of the few good fits here in this class, I'd probably try to trade down and grab an extra asset if he's my target

clyde21 wrote:

CaliWG wrote:

clyde21 wrote:how the heck is Wiseman like Bosh?

Ability to run the floor, handle the ball, face up and shoot with range. Wiseman is bigger, stronger, longer, and a more violent finisher around the rim than Bosh at the same age. Though Bosh had a more refined back to the basket game.

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are we talking about the same Wiseman?

Lol Agreed. Wiseman cannot handle the ball in a real game yet, his face up game needs lots of work, and hasn’t shown the ability to shoot from range in a game consistently.

I think Wiseman is a big who is really caught up in the modern game and doesn’t know what to focus on. Every big is trying to be Giannis & KD, but it may not be their skill.

If Wiseman tells himself he wants to focus on excellent defense, rebounding, blocking/altering shots, setting amazing screens and becoming a good pick n roll player than he has a future. But handling the ball, shooting from range and face to ISNT where he needs to focus just yet.

cdubbz wrote:

Commodor wrote:Isaac Okoro.

Plug and play defender, high IQ, solid build, great athleticism and a strong work ethic.

He’s got GSW written all over him. If he can develop a jumper he’ll be an all star for years.

FOR YEAAAAARS!

Crazy that we could say that about almost any player. If Draymond developed a jumper? Oh man game over would solve a lot of our problems.

I do like Okoro though.

Reminds me of Billy Owens, who we traded Mitch for. All through his career, right until he retired, people kept saying, "If he can just learn to shoot the jump shot" because he was so physically talented in other ways.

Never did.

cdubbz wrote:

clyde21 wrote:

CaliWG wrote:Ability to run the floor, handle the ball, face up and shoot with range. Wiseman is bigger, stronger, longer, and a more violent finisher around the rim than Bosh at the same age. Though Bosh had a more refined back to the basket game.

?

are we talking about the same Wiseman?

Lol Agreed. Wiseman cannot handle the ball in a real game yet, his face up game needs lots of work, and hasn’t shown the ability to shoot from range in a game consistently.

I think Wiseman is a big who is really caught up in the modern game and doesn’t know what to focus on. Every big is trying to be Giannis & KD, but it may not be their skill.

If Wiseman tells himself he wants to focus on excellent defense, rebounding, blocking/altering shots, setting amazing screens and becoming a good pick n roll player than he has a future. But handling the ball, shooting from range and face to ISNT where he needs to focus just yet.

On a podcast (don’t remember which one) a while back I recall the host and guest discussing Wiseman’s view of himself as something that might not feel with how scouts see him. If I remember correctly the story was that Wiseman listed a few modern bigs like Anthony Davis, KAT, Embiid as comparisons for himself and also dropped Pascal Siakam into that list?? Siakam obviously is a 4 but he handles the ball a lot and runs pick and rolls and bombs threes off the dribble, which is why the host/guest were a little concerned about Wiseman seeing how Siakam plays and thinking he should and could emulate that.

Warriors Analyst wrote:

cdubbz wrote:

clyde21 wrote:
?

are we talking about the same Wiseman?

Lol Agreed. Wiseman cannot handle the ball in a real game yet, his face up game needs lots of work, and hasn’t shown the ability to shoot from range in a game consistently.

I think Wiseman is a big who is really caught up in the modern game and doesn’t know what to focus on. Every big is trying to be Giannis & KD, but it may not be their skill.

If Wiseman tells himself he wants to focus on excellent defense, rebounding, blocking/altering shots, setting amazing screens and becoming a good pick n roll player than he has a future. But handling the ball, shooting from range and face to ISNT where he needs to focus just yet.

On a podcast (don’t remember which one) a while back I recall the host and guest discussing Wiseman’s view of himself as something that might not feel with how scouts see him. If I remember correctly the story was that Wiseman listed a few modern bigs like Anthony Davis, KAT, Embiid as comparisons for himself and also dropped Pascal Siakam into that list?? Siakam obviously is a 4 but he handles the ball a lot and runs pick and rolls and bombs threes off the dribble, which is why the host/guest were a little concerned about Wiseman seeing how Siakam plays and thinking he should and could emulate that.

Yeah I listened to that podcast and they were spot on. I wanna say it was the Ringer because I listen to them mostly other than some Warrior podcasts, Jalen & Jacoby etc.

cdubbz wrote:

Warriors Analyst wrote:

cdubbz wrote:
Lol Agreed. Wiseman cannot handle the ball in a real game yet, his face up game needs lots of work, and hasn’t shown the ability to shoot from range in a game consistently.

I think Wiseman is a big who is really caught up in the modern game and doesn’t know what to focus on. Every big is trying to be Giannis & KD, but it may not be their skill.

If Wiseman tells himself he wants to focus on excellent defense, rebounding, blocking/altering shots, setting amazing screens and becoming a good pick n roll player than he has a future. But handling the ball, shooting from range and face to ISNT where he needs to focus just yet.

On a podcast (don’t remember which one) a while back I recall the host and guest discussing Wiseman’s view of himself as something that might not feel with how scouts see him. If I remember correctly the story was that Wiseman listed a few modern bigs like Anthony Davis, KAT, Embiid as comparisons for himself and also dropped Pascal Siakam into that list?? Siakam obviously is a 4 but he handles the ball a lot and runs pick and rolls and bombs threes off the dribble, which is why the host/guest were a little concerned about Wiseman seeing how Siakam plays and thinking he should and could emulate that.

Yeah I listened to that podcast and they were spot on. I wanna say it was the Ringer because I listen to them mostly other than some Warrior podcasts, Jalen & Jacoby etc.

he was probably just coached to say all the best bigs he can think of when he gets asked that question, in another interview he said David Robinson

I believe the "return to play" proposal (22 teams, 8 remaining regular season games) means GSW cannot be overtaken in the lotto odds

The #1 spot has been clinched!

OptionZero wrote:I believe the "return to play" proposal (22 teams, 8 remaining regular season games) means GSW cannot be overtaken in the lotto odds

The #1 spot has been clinched!

It’s whatever to me about odds. We share 14% with two other teams to land #1 pick.

I'm just pointing out the facts, sir.

Wiretap story that GSW has Halibruton above Ball and Hayes.

Connor Latourneau claiming that.

wco81 wrote:Wiretap story that GSW has Halibruton above Ball and Hayes.

Connor Latourneau claiming that.

Smoke screen...at least I don't see it at all. His set shot three looks odd (boing!), he's skinny as heck and seems super right handed dominant. Bimbo Coles could put that highlight reel together

We should be leaking that we love everybody, but it seems like Connor's reporting is consistently that they do not like Ball or WIseman

It doesn't even matter of thats true - the game should be that GSW loves EVERYONE and if u wanna get ur guy u better trade us. Makes no sense to leak the truth pre-draft. Hell, you should be lying about it even afterwards for a couple years

Not sure what the point would be of leaking that if it was true.
There must be someone we really like.

After watching more stuff on Okoro, he's my target.

azwfan's 2020 draft crush history
Wiseman --> Hayes --> Okongwu --> Wiseman --> Okongwu --> Okoro
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