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Re: Your Top 5 2020 Warriors Draft Picks 

Post#121 » by Onus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:21 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Isaac Okoro vs Anthony Edwards

Both about 6'5" 225. Edwards was a volume shooter making only 40% of his shots. Okoro shot the ball way less, but at 51%. Both of them were abysmal from 3 under 30%.

Edwards rebounded slightly better, but I could attribute that to their team makeup. Georgia was total crap this year and Auburn was one of the best teams in the country.

I watched Edwards coast through much of the season, so his motor is highly questionable. Okoro is a beast who really looks for the defensive challenge.

Is it hype? Or is their something I'm missing? Why is Edwards rated so much higher by most draft experts?

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Re: Your Top 5 2020 Warriors Draft Picks 

Post#122 » by Mylie10 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:26 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:Isaac Okoro vs Anthony Edwards

Both about 6'5" 225. Edwards was a volume shooter making only 40% of his shots. Okoro shot the ball way less, but at 51%. Both of them were abysmal from 3 under 30%.

Edwards rebounded slightly better, but I could attribute that to their team makeup. Georgia was total crap this year and Auburn was one of the best teams in the country.

I watched Edwards coast through much of the season, so his motor is highly questionable. Okoro is a beast who really looks for the defensive challenge.

Is it hype? Or is their something I'm missing? Why is Edwards rated so much higher by most draft experts?

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Post#123 » by TB » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:36 pm

Edwards game is very Harden like. Only without going through the process Harden went through to start playing that way (Harden was efficient all around player at ASU and OKC).

So essentially, he's playing like Harden but without the shot falling or the craftiness to score inside or draw fouls.

That being said, he does have elite shot creation. Dude is going to be able to get himself a shot whenever he wants. Will it fall? We shall see. Personally, I like the potential of Edwards but don't think he's the right fit for what the Warriors do.
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Post#124 » by Onus » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:14 am

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Mylie10 wrote:Isaac Okoro vs Anthony Edwards

Both about 6'5" 225. Edwards was a volume shooter making only 40% of his shots. Okoro shot the ball way less, but at 51%. Both of them were abysmal from 3 under 30%.

Edwards rebounded slightly better, but I could attribute that to their team makeup. Georgia was total crap this year and Auburn was one of the best teams in the country.

I watched Edwards coast through much of the season, so his motor is highly questionable. Okoro is a beast who really looks for the defensive challenge.

Is it hype? Or is their something I'm missing? Why is Edwards rated so much higher by most draft experts?

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So a bigger Jordan Poole :nonono: :sleep:

I don’t think anyone is enamored with him. And there isn’t really that big of a gap between the 2 prospects. Edwards can be anywhere 1-5 while okoro is anywhere from 4-10. One is seen with superstar potential while the other a role player. Doesn’t seem too bad.
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Post#125 » by Onus » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:58 am

[quote="Mylie10"][/quote]
who do you like better Vassell or Okoro?
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Post#126 » by Mylie10 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:02 am

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who do you like better Vassell or Okoro?


I look at it two ways because I like both. I would lean Vassell and here’s why.

Vassell is a really good catch and shoot player and shot it at 42% from 3. He also might be the best instinctive defender in the draft.

I like Okoro’s toughness and he’s a good defender too. But his shooting from range is pretty weak.
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Post#127 » by Little Digger » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:26 am

I watched just about every Edwards game from December thru to the shutdown..I must have missed the game he Consistently created shots
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Post#128 » by Mylie10 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:45 am

Little Digger wrote:I watched just about every Edwards game from December thru to the shutdown..I must have missed the game he Consistently created shots


Lol...have been waiting for days for you to chime in on him. To your point I just read something that stated he shot only 25% on shots off the dribble. And shooting 26% on long range twos.

I will say, I don’t hate him because there’s a lot to work with. I also trust in our coaching staff. Just look what they did with Jacob Evans lol. Props to the front office for dumping his ass.
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Post#129 » by Mylie10 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:22 am

If they can get Banes with a late second, he would be able to contribute right away. Elite shooter with 4 years of college under his belt. 6’6” 215
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Post#130 » by B-King » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:26 am

Mylie10 wrote:Isaac Okoro vs Anthony Edwards

Both about 6'5" 225. Edwards was a volume shooter making only 40% of his shots. Okoro shot the ball way less, but at 51%. Both of them were abysmal from 3 under 30%.

Edwards rebounded slightly better, but I could attribute that to their team makeup. Georgia was total crap this year and Auburn was one of the best teams in the country.

I watched Edwards coast through much of the season, so his motor is highly questionable. Okoro is a beast who really looks for the defensive challenge.

Is it hype? Or is their something I'm missing? Why is Edwards rated so much higher by most draft experts?


Edwards seems to be much more proficient using his off-hand. His offensive numbers out the gate will be better. Okoro will be an excellent all round player and is a crafty scorer. Okoro will move up in the daft and it looks like Ball might be slipping with his suspect jump shot.
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Re: Your Top 5 2020 Warriors Draft Picks 

Post#131 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:22 pm

Onus wrote:Shot creation. Shot creation is how you become a superstar or even a fake superstar


Becoming a superstar has more to do with marketing than anything else.
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Post#132 » by TB » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:47 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
Onus wrote:Shot creation. Shot creation is how you become a superstar or even a fake superstar


Becoming a superstar has more to do with marketing than anything else.


This is why its time cover Chase Center in Smiley billboards and posters.
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Post#133 » by The Maestro » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:05 pm

From what I’ve been told, I think we should focus on who would be the most appealing to the Milwaukee Bucks and not worry about how the player fits best with the Warriors.

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Post#134 » by ChuckDurn » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:11 pm

The Maestro wrote:From what I’ve been told, I think we should focus on who would be the most appealing to the Milwaukee Bucks and not worry about how the player fits best with the Warriors.

Wiseman
Edwards
LaMelo

Color me skeptical about the Bucks angle, but missing from much of this discussion is the whole “tiers” approach to drafting. Always take a player in a higher tier than one in a lower tier, irrespective of fit, because of the possibility for trades or overall higher performance and ceiling.
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Post#135 » by TB » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:22 pm

ChuckDurn wrote:
The Maestro wrote:From what I’ve been told, I think we should focus on who would be the most appealing to the Milwaukee Bucks and not worry about how the player fits best with the Warriors.

Wiseman
Edwards
LaMelo

Color me skeptical about the Bucks angle, but missing from much of this discussion is the whole “tiers” approach to drafting. Always take a player in a higher tier than one in a lower tier, irrespective of fit, because of the possibility for trades or overall higher performance and ceiling.


I think the problem with this draft is how difficult it is to determine who is in what tier. There doesn't seem to be a consensus on anything. If we draft Lamelo thinking he's the tier 1 guy we can trade, and then find out the Bucks have Hayes and Haliburton over him, that doesn't do us any good.

I'm not drafting anyone in the top 5 for another team unless the deal is already done.

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Post#136 » by jason bourne » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:42 am

Warriors talking about getting a defensive type player, but they had a younger Draymond Green who could hit the 3-ball and eventually became a 38% 3-pt shooter in 2016. It may have been a one year fluke, but we saw how good that team was. Thus, picking a guy who can start and hit the 3-ball or third Splash Bros could be the way to go. The player most likely to be that in the top picks consensus is either Deni Avdija who many have touted, but I think it's Tyrese Haliburton. Haliburton shot 41% from 3-pt land at Iowa State to go along with 15.2 pts, 5.9 boards, 6.5 asts, 2.5 stls and become the player most like Shaun Livingston. Warriors fans need not worry about drafting Haliburton in the top five.

I already mentioned Deni Avdija, so let's take a look at him. He's supposed to the 3-pt shooter, but he's a better passer than shot maker. I think the Warriors need a Big Shot Bob like Robert Horry than a Mike Dunleavy Jr. I don't think Avdija is like a BSB, Danillo Gallinari, nor Mike Miller. He's more the line of Hedo Turkoglu, Boris Diaw, or Joe Ingles, someone who's more a playmaker. Also, you'll have to wait for him to develop as he wasn't good enough to get minutes on his Israeli team. However, I think he did break out and showed people what he could do and become in the 2019 FIBA U20 European Championship, where he led Israel to the gold medal and was named tournament MVP. Avdija likes the ball in his hands more and can create shots for others and himself than be the guy who gets the extra pass and shot or the 3-pt splash off the ball. That's why he is in the discussion for being top 5. Is he that the type of guy for the Warriors? Avdija seems like a safe pick because he's a hard worker and likely will become a rotation player. We don't know if he's a starter for sure yet. That makes me question Avdija, so he's he's very close to being one of my picks. The man is 6'8" and averaged 18.2 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 3.2 assists per game Israeli Basketball Premier League for Maccabi Tel Aviv. If only he is more consistent with his shot, then he would be in there. He can shoot like 40% 3-ball one month, but also 10% the next. I'm still trying to find out what is up with that.

I think my other top player that I'll talk about now requires landing the #1 pick to get him and that's AntMan, Anthony Edwards. Edwards has the build of a NBA player already and maybe able to step in as a starter soon enough if not right away. He is an incredibly powerful and explosive player with a first step and is 6'5" 225 lbs. His strength is in scoring and creating with the ball. He's a iso type players, to that is a concern for the Warriors. Will he need the ball in his hands too often that he may hurt Curry or Klay's game? AntMan was the best shooter and player on a weak Georgia team, so it could've affected his offensive play. He had to have the scoring load for them to have a chance to win. First, there is no question Edwards can score the ball by putting it on the floor and creating for himself or making a play for others, but can he do it as a cutter or spot up shooter without the ball. Can he shoot and make plays off the ball? In terms of the 3-ball, he was better creating a 3-pt shot for himself than being the catch and shoot guy. That might lessen Steph Curry's effectiveness as Curry likes to be the one with the ball in his hands unless it's to let a guy like Kevin Durant make his play and shot. I don't think Edwards can do that coming in, but the guy still has some incredible tools with his measurement. Who is to say that he can't do that or be the one who will allow Curry to shoot off the ball more? I still think Curry is better with the ball in his hands so there may be some friction. Something like that is too hard to tell. Scouts have said Edwards weakness could be his shot selection and that includes giving up the ball. However, he was the main and only offensive threat on Georgia so he may have been forced to take on that role.
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Post#137 » by Onus » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:07 am

I go back and forth with liking Deni but then I remember he never dribbles with his left hand and he a streaky shooter. But he does look taller than 6’8” and if he’s actually 6’10” I like him a lot more and have no qualms with selecting him.
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Post#138 » by jason bourne » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:10 am

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Mylie10 wrote:Isaac Okoro vs Anthony Edwards

Both about 6'5" 225. Edwards was a volume shooter making only 40% of his shots. Okoro shot the ball way less, but at 51%. Both of them were abysmal from 3 under 30%.

Edwards rebounded slightly better, but I could attribute that to their team makeup. Georgia was total crap this year and Auburn was one of the best teams in the country.

I watched Edwards coast through much of the season, so his motor is highly questionable. Okoro is a beast who really looks for the defensive challenge.

Is it hype? Or is their something I'm missing? Why is Edwards rated so much higher by most draft experts?

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I agree. Have no qualms about AntMan's shot creation. The guy has the tools and has proven it. It's shot selection that is in question as can he play and shoot the 3 off the ball? I think AntMan was worse with that than off the dribble. Off the dribble, AntMan could be better as guys were guarding him tight as he was the main offensive threat for Georgia. They knew he was going to shoot. For the Warriors, if Steph is the main ball handler, then AntMan will have to play off the ball. That's not great for an iso player.
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Post#139 » by jason bourne » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:14 am

Onus wrote:I go back and forth with liking Deni but then I remember he never dribbles with his left hand and he a streaky shooter. But he does look taller than 6’8” and if he’s actually 6’10” I like him a lot more and have no qualms with selecting him.


I wasn't sure about his height either, but if he's grown then that's more a positive. He has more regular measurements than really long arms. I think Deni would be a trade down candidate. I'm not as sure about Haliburton being trade down as he could rise up with the right agent.
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Post#140 » by The Maestro » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:26 am

There’s a much better chance than people think that Giannis goes to GSW. Much better.

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