TPE/MLE/Draft

[Warriors Analyst]

The cap says you have an MLE and a trade exception that can be used on more than one player if need be.

I thought my position on Bowman was clear. But, no. I don't...until he can shoot better. Hence, a two way talent for now.

The best case scenerio I see for Bowman is a Patty Mills type, but he'd need to turn into a serious threat from deep to have a shot at that. He's just average as is. Not good enough for the secondary play making ball handler you need on a top ball club.

I don’t see Patty Mills. Mills is more of a scoring point guard than a guy like Bowman who is defense first. Bowman has a fantastic vertical leap, and Mills is but an average athlete. Bowman is like a Football player (American), and Mills is like the crafty guy at the gym who scores on everybody.

I love the moxy of Patty Mills.

If Bowman shot anywhere close to Patty Mills he’s be a total stud, because Bowman is a legit defender. Bulldog type....love that

Bowman's ceiling -- and I don't think he'll hit it -- is Fred VanVleet. Small bulldog of a guard who is a good and rugged defender even against guys who have a size advantage on him. But lots of things have to go right for that to happen, namely for Bowman's shot to make significant improvements. He's a more explosive athlete than VanVleet and so he could have a higher margin for error and have easier access to driving lanes on a lower 3P%, but he needs to be at 35% to make it in the league. If he can get up to 37% from three, he'll be a ten year NBA player. He wasn't a bad floor general and the shot will open up everything for him.

[Scoots1994]

The best case scenerio I see for Bowman is a Patty Mills type, but he'd need to turn into a serious threat from deep to have a shot at that. He's just average as is. Not good enough for the secondary play making ball handler you need on a top ball club.

I don’t see Patty Mills. Mills is more of a scoring point guard than a guy like Bowman who is defense first. Bowman has a fantastic vertical leap, and Mills is but an average athlete. Bowman is like a Football player (American), and Mills is like the crafty guy at the gym who scores on everybody.

I love the moxy of Patty Mills.

If Bowman shot anywhere close to Patty Mills he’s be a total stud, because Bowman is a legit defender. Bulldog type....love that

Bowman's ceiling -- and I don't think he'll hit it -- is Fred VanVleet. Small bulldog of a guard who is a good and rugged defender even against guys who have a size advantage on him. But lots of things have to go right for that to happen, namely for Bowman's shot to make significant improvements. He's a more explosive athlete than VanVleet and so he could have a higher margin for error and have easier access to driving lanes on a lower 3P%, but he needs to be at 35% to make it in the league. If he can get up to 37% from three, he'll be a ten year NBA player. He wasn't a bad floor general and the shot will open up everything for him.

Bowman shot 45% from 3 his first year at BC. Don't know what happened to him but he was there in the past (and 80% on FT) so it should be possible.

[Mylie10]

Bowman needs to aim to be Beverly

[TB]

Bowman needs to aim to be Beverly

This.

Bowmans rookie numbers are eerily similar to Bev's rookie numbers. With the main difference being:

1) Bev shot the 3 better.
2) Bev advanced number better but likely due to being on a much better team.
3) Bev was 2 years older with 2 years of pro ball experience in Europe.

I'm perfectly fine with Ky as the 3rd PG.

[Scoots1994]

Bowman needs to aim to be Beverly

I can see it.

[Hopper15]

So with the tax staying at $132M instead of the projected $139M, my original projection of $14.4M in salary to be used on two vets is now down to $7.4M total. Yikes. That would still be $85M in luxury taxes and a near $250M in gross payroll. After that, every payroll dollar spent is an additional $5 of tax.

[Mylie10]

I say force Lacob to take it in the shorts. If he’s true to his word about being a Title contender, then you do what it takes for your roster to legitimately compete for a Title.

I understand Covid, pre and post. However the Jazz just sold for 1.5 billion. I’m sure Lacob is playing the long game and the Warriors are probably more like 3 billion at least, haven’t looked. But they will recoup everything if they ever sell, so put up or shut up.

Not you Hop

[jason bourne]

n/m

[Mylie10]

I say force Lacob to take it in the shorts. If he’s true to his word about being a Title contender, then you do what it takes for your roster to legitimately compete for a Title.

I understand Covid, pre and post. However the Jazz just sold for 1.5 billion. I’m sure Lacob is playing the long game and the Warriors are probably more like 3 billion at least, haven’t looked. But they will recoup everything if they ever sell, so put up or shut up.

Not you Hop

Forbes has the Warriors at 4.3 billion right now. So yeah they can afford it.

[Little Digger]

200 million is nothing for the warriors ownership group..they bought the team for 300 million..it’s now worth 4 billion and if they keep winning will easily be worth 10 billion+ in less than 5 years..200 million is too much luxery tax to pay? Lolz

+ Guys like Lacob and Chamath have made billions this year with their private tech companies investments

[wco81]

Problem is they got no income coming at Chase. Not just no NBA games but also no concerts and other events which would be exempt from BRI money which they'd have to share with the league.

And they must have loans to pay off.

Plus they weren't selling out the place were they before they stopped play in March?

[Scoots1994]

So with the tax staying at $132M instead of the projected $139M, my original projection of $14.4M in salary to be used on two vets is now down to $7.4M total. Yikes. That would still be $85M in luxury taxes and a near $250M in gross payroll. After that, every payroll dollar spent is an additional $5 of tax.

I thought the cap numbers were still up in the air?

[wco81]

Yeah I'm not seeing reporting on it. Also how could they set cap or luxury tax numbers when they haven't yet decided how many games they will play, which will have a direct effect on revenues?

We've heard they're considering either 72-game season or a 50-game season. But nothing's decided yet. You just see headlines that if they wait a month to start, in mid January, they'd lose hundreds of millions in revenues, maybe more.

[Hopper15]

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/10/26/report-nba-teams-told-salary-cap-wouldnt-dip-below-109m/

Y'all need to keep up.

They could arbitrarily raise the luxury tax line as I've previously speculated which would benefit the Dubs.

[xdrta+]

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/10/26/report-nba-teams-told-salary-cap-wouldnt-dip-below-109m/

Y'all need to keep up.

They could arbitrarily raise the luxury tax line as I've previously speculated which would benefit the Dubs.

There's no keeping up because there's nothing official yet, just endless speculation. And that same story says if that's the case for the cap the tax line would remain the same.

[Hopper15]

I guess the teams find these things out the same time as the gen pop.

[Scoots1994]

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/10/26/report-nba-teams-told-salary-cap-wouldnt-dip-below-109m/

Y'all need to keep up.

They could arbitrarily raise the luxury tax line as I've previously speculated which would benefit the Dubs.

All that is is what the teams want, but it's not decided at all yet.

[Hopper15]

So "told" and "want" mean the same thing? Got it.

[Scoots1994]

So "told" and "want" mean the same thing? Got it.

No, the teams were told what the plan is, but until the NBPA agrees what they were told doesn't matter. It may even be likely, but it's definitely not certain yet. Apparently there is still discussion about the tax being at $139 instead of $132, it may also be much lower if negotiations with the NBPA fall apart.

As an example, politicians often tell the press what they are going to do, when what they are really saying is what they want to do, but until it's actually the law it's not really true.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

I feel no urgency to upgrade Bowman unless Curry is going to play some offguard.