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Re: Kerr: “Right now, we're not big enough or athletic enough 

Post#61 » by northoakland510 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:20 am

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We need legit athletic length to at least provide some resistance. This ain’t Rocket Science.
I agree. The team doesn't need guys that can play the 3 and the 4. The team needs legit 7 foot athletes out there.


The team ALSO needs guys who can play the 3. Right now the Warriors 3 spot is Wigging and JTA and that is it.


I can agree with that. I just think it should be had in the free agent market or with the 2nd round picks.

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Post#62 » by Mylie10 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:16 am

It’s not either or. It’s not big versus small forward. We need both. We need length at the 3 and length at the 5.

But we don’t have the 5 on the roster yet. It’s vital to have the shot blocking.

I’m sure they also have plans for adding more at the wings. The league really is trending towards three wings and two bigs. So just get as much length as you can.
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Re: Kerr: “Right now, we're not big enough or athletic enough 

Post#63 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:59 am

In general rookies can't play, especially rookies without college experience.
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Post#64 » by Little Digger » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:21 am

Marvin Bagley and the #12 overall for the Warriors #2 overall

Bagley racked up 20 points and 17 rebounds against the Warriors on Nov. 24, 2018, and registered 28 points and 14 rebounds at Oracle Arena on Feb. 21, 2019.

"He’s obviously been playing well as of late and showing why he is a top draft pick, so they got a good one there," Warriors superstar Steph Curry said of Bagley after the latter performance.

Coming away with Bagley and Pat Williams for the #2 pick? Could be the move to make for the warriors if they think Bagley’s injuries are just bad luck ..
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Post#65 » by GQ Hot Dog » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:26 pm

Little Digger wrote:Marvin Bagley and the #12 overall for the Warriors #2 overall

Bagley racked up 20 points and 17 rebounds against the Warriors on Nov. 24, 2018, and registered 28 points and 14 rebounds at Oracle Arena on Feb. 21, 2019.

"He’s obviously been playing well as of late and showing why he is a top draft pick, so they got a good one there," Warriors superstar Steph Curry said of Bagley after the latter performance.

Coming away with Bagley and Pat Williams for the #2 pick? Could be the move to make for the warriors if they think Bagley’s injuries are just bad luck ..


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Post#66 » by HiRez » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:48 pm

Little Digger wrote:Marvin Bagley and the #12 overall for the Warriors #2 overall

Bagley racked up 20 points and 17 rebounds against the Warriors on Nov. 24, 2018, and registered 28 points and 14 rebounds at Oracle Arena on Feb. 21, 2019.

"He’s obviously been playing well as of late and showing why he is a top draft pick, so they got a good one there," Warriors superstar Steph Curry said of Bagley after the latter performance.

Coming away with Bagley and Pat Williams for the #2 pick? Could be the move to make for the warriors if they think Bagley’s injuries are just bad luck ..

#12 is a bit too low for me in this draft where there's a pretty clear drop-off from the top 10-ish guys. I doubt Williams is going to be there at #12. Yeah, you can get a Desmond Bane there, but you can probably get him in the #20-#25 range too. It's possible Williams will be there, maybe someone like Nesmith or even Vassell, but you can't count on any of them being available there.

Plus it's hard to believe Sacramento is ready to move on from Bagley this soon.
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Post#67 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:08 pm

Well with a new GM, maybe they would move on after his injury history.

He's only played 75 games in his two season, only 13 this season.
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Post#68 » by xdrta+ » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:14 pm

wco81 wrote:Well with a new GM, maybe they would move on after his injury history.

He's only played 75 games in his two season, only 13 this season.


A good reason to stay away from him.
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Re: Kerr: “Right now, we're not big enough or athletic enough 

Post#69 » by Mav_Carter » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:50 pm

Andrew Wiggins for Andre Drummond...
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Post#70 » by Mav_Carter » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:52 pm

and then trade the #2 to the Kings for the #12 and the Black Falcon...
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Post#71 » by Quazza » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 am

Little Digger wrote:Marvin Bagley and the #12 overall for the Warriors #2 overall

Bagley racked up 20 points and 17 rebounds against the Warriors on Nov. 24, 2018, and registered 28 points and 14 rebounds at Oracle Arena on Feb. 21, 2019.

"He’s obviously been playing well as of late and showing why he is a top draft pick, so they got a good one there," Warriors superstar Steph Curry said of Bagley after the latter performance.

Coming away with Bagley and Pat Williams for the #2 pick? Could be the move to make for the warriors if they think Bagley’s injuries are just bad luck ..


have watched Bagley a lot and to me he's as talented (if not more ) than anyone in this draft. He has a crazy second leap. Gets off the floor super quick. I'd love him to be a Warrior

that said, he appears be made of Kleenex. We'ds need to be 1000% certain our medical team can get him right
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Post#72 » by ClutchUp » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:29 am

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Little Digger wrote:Marvin Bagley and the #12 overall for the Warriors #2 overall

Bagley racked up 20 points and 17 rebounds against the Warriors on Nov. 24, 2018, and registered 28 points and 14 rebounds at Oracle Arena on Feb. 21, 2019.

"He’s obviously been playing well as of late and showing why he is a top draft pick, so they got a good one there," Warriors superstar Steph Curry said of Bagley after the latter performance.

Coming away with Bagley and Pat Williams for the #2 pick? Could be the move to make for the warriors if they think Bagley’s injuries are just bad luck ..


have watched Bagley a lot and to me he's as talented (if not more ) than anyone in this draft. He has a crazy second leap. Gets off the floor super quick. I'd love him to be a Warrior

that said, he appears be made of Kleenex. We'ds need to be 1000% certain our medical team can get him right


Yeah the injuries with Bagley are concerning.
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Post#73 » by tarantism » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:11 pm

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Little Digger wrote:Marvin Bagley and the #12 overall for the Warriors #2 overall

Bagley racked up 20 points and 17 rebounds against the Warriors on Nov. 24, 2018, and registered 28 points and 14 rebounds at Oracle Arena on Feb. 21, 2019.

"He’s obviously been playing well as of late and showing why he is a top draft pick, so they got a good one there," Warriors superstar Steph Curry said of Bagley after the latter performance.

Coming away with Bagley and Pat Williams for the #2 pick? Could be the move to make for the warriors if they think Bagley’s injuries are just bad luck ..


have watched Bagley a lot and to me he's as talented (if not more ) than anyone in this draft. He has a crazy second leap. Gets off the floor super quick. I'd love him to be a Warrior

that said, he appears be made of Kleenex. We'ds need to be 1000% certain our medical team can get him right


Yeah the injuries with Bagley are concerning.
He needs to get stronger. Bagley is still young and hasn't grown into his body. That being said, outside of being crazy athletic Bagley isn't much of a rim protector.

I don't see how the obvious answer here isn't Turner. He fits perfectly, is available, his salary fits within the TPE and he is heading into his prime so he can play and make us better right away. He blocks shots, has size and athleticism and can stretch the floor on offense.

Klay/Dray/Turner is a nice three level defensive trio and allows us to use Dray as more of a flex defender who can guard bigger wings while Turner mans the paint. This also helps us avoid having Wiggins defend the other team's best wing. I think he is under contract until at least 21-22 and could be used to acquire a true star down the road.
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Post#74 » by Onus » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:51 pm

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have watched Bagley a lot and to me he's as talented (if not more ) than anyone in this draft. He has a crazy second leap. Gets off the floor super quick. I'd love him to be a Warrior

that said, he appears be made of Kleenex. We'ds need to be 1000% certain our medical team can get him right


Yeah the injuries with Bagley are concerning.
He needs to get stronger. Bagley is still young and hasn't grown into his body. That being said, outside of being crazy athletic Bagley isn't much of a rim protector.

I don't see how the obvious answer here isn't Turner. He fits perfectly, is available, his salary fits within the TPE and he is heading into his prime so he can play and make us better right away. He blocks shots, has size and athleticism and can stretch the floor on offense.

Klay/Dray/Turner is a nice three level defensive trio and allows us to use Dray as more of a flex defender who can guard bigger wings while Turner mans the paint. This also helps us avoid having Wiggins defend the other team's best wing. I think he is under contract until at least 21-22 and could be used to acquire a true star down the road.

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Post#75 » by Mylie10 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:51 pm

Just saw this on another forum;


“Vecenie dropped a new mock today. Nothing really new. They like Haliburton if they trade down, has Wiseman at two but mainly cause he’s the most likely guy for a team to trade up for:


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I’ve slid Wiseman up to No. 2, not because I think the Warriors are necessarily likely to take him, but rather because I think he’s the most likely target for a team in a trade. Having talked to sources who have seen Wiseman work out in Miami, there is some real enthusiasm about his play. He’s looked dominant in workouts and in the runs with other high-level NBA Draft prospects.A lot of executives I’ve spoken with actually consider Wiseman to be among the safer players in the draft. Simply put, few executives doubt that his size, length, athleticism will translate into being a starting quality NBA center. There the disagreement comes is whether or not he has star upside, something that is necessary for a team to be willing to take a center at the top of the draft in today’s day and age. Some think his defensive ability on the interior does bring that kind of upside. Others are less convinced. Ultimately though, I do think Wiseman is more likely to go somewhere in the top-five than just about any other prospect.”
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Post#76 » by Mylie10 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:55 pm

He’s looked dominant in workouts and in the runs with other high level NBA draft prospects.
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Post#77 » by northoakland510 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:26 pm

Mylie10 wrote:He’s looked dominant in workouts and in the runs with other high level NBA draft prospects.


Man that is great to hear.
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Post#78 » by whatisacenter » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:34 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:He’s looked dominant in workouts and in the runs with other high level NBA draft prospects.


Man that is great to hear.


Would really like to see who is on that list...
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Post#79 » by Mylie10 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:44 pm

Bottom line is that Wiseman gives our center rotation the finishing piece. That’s four guys to throw at Anthony Davis including Draymond.

Plus Wiseman has the huge upside. We can contend for a title with him as a rookie and continue the contention as he gets better and better.

To me it’s a no brainer.
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Post#80 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:37 pm

Mylie10 wrote:He’s looked dominant in workouts and in the runs with other high level NBA draft prospects.


None of whom are centers.

I'm not against Wiseman to the Warriors, but this quote is really just saying several NBA execs supposedly think his floor is functional NBA player.

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