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Re: 11/20 FREE AGENCY begins at 3:00 PDT 

Post#361 » by whatisacenter » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:39 am

Phase 3 wrote:Warriors taking an L in free agency so far.


Klay going down again changed everything when it comes to being a free agent destination. Can’t make players sign and there’s no cap room to overpay to get them
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Re: 11/20 FREE AGENCY begins at 3:00 PDT 

Post#362 » by Little Digger » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:41 am

Cade Cunningham will be playing on ESPN this coming week..You never know..We definitely could be in the lottery depending on health..
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Post#363 » by azwfan » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:48 am

Little Digger wrote:Cade Cunningham will be playing on ESPN this coming week..You never know..We definitely could be in the lottery depending on health..

Extremely disappointing, but I'm coming to that realization also. These youngsters really need to step the f up. Poole's gotta improve on what he did at the end of last year, and Paschall cannot have a sophomore slump.

Wiseman's ability out of the gate will be a big factor too.
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Post#364 » by Hopper15 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:48 am

If they do snag a vet big, I'd say it's more likely they move Chriss than Looney. You might be able to get a 2nd rounder instead of walking next offseason for nothing. They'd probably have to give an asset to move Looney.
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Re: 11/20 FREE AGENCY begins at 3:00 PDT 

Post#365 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 am

xdrta+ wrote:
Albo wrote:Why can't they sign Mannion to the league minimum? Is it because can't sign him to a multi year deal this way?

How did we sign the 2nd round pick contracts last year?


Second rounders get two-ways most often.


They want to use part of the MLE for Mannion so they can sign him to a longer deal, like they did with Paschall.
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Post#366 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:54 am

Hopper15 wrote:If they do snag a vet big, I'd say it's more likely they move Chriss than Looney. You might be able to get a 2nd rounder instead of walking next offseason for nothing. They'd probably have to give an asset to move Looney.


Well, we need to meet the conditions of our 2021 1st round pick to OKC by placing somewhere between 1 -20 and that makes us give up two 2nd round picks. We fall to bottom 10, we'll lose our 1st round pick, and I see that happening with the construction of our roster (up to this point).
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Re: 11/20 FREE AGENCY begins at 3:00 PDT 

Post#367 » by GswStorm3 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:55 am

whatisacenter wrote:
Phase 3 wrote:Warriors taking an L in free agency so far.


Klay going down again changed everything when it comes to being a free agent destination. Can’t make players sign and there’s no cap room to overpay to get them


Some people are just complaining to complain.
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Post#368 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:57 am

GswStorm3 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
Phase 3 wrote:Warriors taking an L in free agency so far.


Klay going down again changed everything when it comes to being a free agent destination. Can’t make players sign and there’s no cap room to overpay to get them


Some people are just complaining to complain.


So, we're pretty much screwed either way and losing our 1st round pick to OKC then by falling to bottom 10. Cool.
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Post#369 » by clyde21 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:57 am

any way we can maneuver a S&T with Kings, Wiggins for Bogdan :)
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Post#370 » by Samurai » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:00 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:Players I think we should go (or should have signed) for what we have available with DPE, MLE, and what's left of TPE:

Reggie Jackson (Backup PG)
Kyle Korver (Should come cheap and at a deep discount. One trick pony at this point of his career.)
GRIII (Solid contributor last season; Should bring him back -- if possible)

I like Mr. October since he can play both PG and SG as well as a little defense. E'Twaun Moore is another combo guard that can space the floor and play some defense. But we don't have the DPE yet; we just applied for it and it may take a few weeks before an approval is received. Not sure if guys like RJ will be around then. I'd like to get GR3 back on a vet minimum if he's willing to accept that; he may get a better offer elsewhere.
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Post#371 » by clyde21 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:02 am

there's not much we can do at this point, ever dollar costs 10x at this point, a lot these guys just aren't worth...other than the DPE we'll probably just wait for vet min guys.
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Post#372 » by whatisacenter » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:02 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
GswStorm3 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
Klay going down again changed everything when it comes to being a free agent destination. Can’t make players sign and there’s no cap room to overpay to get them


Some people are just complaining to complain.


So, we're pretty much screwed either way and losing our 1st round pick to OKC then by falling to bottom 10. Cool.


You have that backwards. Okc gets the pick if we have a top 10 record, 1-20 we keep the pick
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Post#373 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:12 am

whatisacenter wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
GswStorm3 wrote:
Some people are just complaining to complain.


So, we're pretty much screwed either way and losing our 1st round pick to OKC then by falling to bottom 10. Cool.


You have that backwards. Okc gets the pick if we have a top 10 record, 1-20 we keep the pick


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30350475/sources-golden-state-warriors-trade-acquire-kelly-oubre-oklahoma-city-thunder

The Warriors will convey that pick to the Thunder next season only should they finish 21st to 30th in the final regular-season standings. If the Warriors land in the top 20, they will send two second-round picks to Oklahoma City, sources said.


Warriors fall between 21st - 30th place overall (Bottom 10), we give up our pick to OKC.
If Warriors land 2021 top 20 pick (1-20), OKC gets two 2nd round picks.
It's not backwards; Clearly written and interpreted with the condition of this trade.
And I see us meeting the first condition.
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Post#374 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:17 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
So, we're pretty much screwed either way and losing our 1st round pick to OKC then by falling to bottom 10. Cool.


You have that backwards. Okc gets the pick if we have a top 10 record, 1-20 we keep the pick


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30350475/sources-golden-state-warriors-trade-acquire-kelly-oubre-oklahoma-city-thunder

The Warriors will convey that pick to the Thunder next season only should they finish 21st to 30th in the final regular-season standings. If the Warriors land in the top 20, they will send two second-round picks to Oklahoma City, sources said.


Warriors fall between 21st - 30th place overall (Bottom 10), we give up our pick to OKC.
If Warriors land 2021 top 20 pick (1-20), OKC gets two 2nd round picks.
It's not backwards; Clearly written and interpreted with the condition of this trade.
And I see us meeting the first condition.


You guys are tripping over each other by not recognizing that a bottom 10 pick and a top 10 record are the same thing.
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Post#375 » by Hopper15 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:17 am

I think Woj took a Vicodin with his beer before that tweet.
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Post#376 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:20 am

azwfan wrote:So right now we're looking like:

Curry, Wanamaker, Poole
Wiggins, Lee
Oubre,
Green, Paschall, Smiley
Wiseman, Chriss, Looney
*Klay

Nico gets a 2-way

So we got 1 roster spot (assuming we only carry 14) and 1 2-way available... with Mulder, JTA, and Norvell duking it out?

Edit: Without Curry and Green that's the worst team in the league again. We need a lot from Curry and some serious improvement from our youngsters.


Why do you think we're only carrying 14 players? Since Klay is hurt that means 13.
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Post#377 » by azwfan » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:25 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
azwfan wrote:So right now we're looking like:

Curry, Wanamaker, Poole
Wiggins, Lee
Oubre,
Green, Paschall, Smiley
Wiseman, Chriss, Looney
*Klay

Nico gets a 2-way

So we got 1 roster spot (assuming we only carry 14) and 1 2-way available... with Mulder, JTA, and Norvell duking it out?

Edit: Without Curry and Green that's the worst team in the league again. We need a lot from Curry and some serious improvement from our youngsters.


Why do you think we're only carrying 14 players? Since Klay is hurt that means 13.

Because what would be the benefit of carrying more? Its just extra luxury tax and less flexibility, especially when they can dump JTA or Mulder with no penalty. If those guys were significantly better than what was available when dumpster diving then I could see us holding onto them. But I'm not sure they are.
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Post#378 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:26 am

Coxy wrote:I have literally never seen Wanamaker play. In Myers I trust however.

At least it wasn’t Lin.


He's a tough-nosed defensive oriented PG with a 2.5-1.1 assist-turnover ratio. He also shot 93% from the line.

Celtics fans are cheering the Teague over Wanamaker signing and I have no idea why. Teague is horrible. He defends like the smurfiest PGs in the league, -4.19 DRPM to Wanamaker's -1.87.

I am thrilled we ended up with Wanamaker instead of Teague.
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Post#379 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:34 am

azwfan wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:
azwfan wrote:So right now we're looking like:

Curry, Wanamaker, Poole
Wiggins, Lee
Oubre,
Green, Paschall, Smiley
Wiseman, Chriss, Looney
*Klay

Nico gets a 2-way

So we got 1 roster spot (assuming we only carry 14) and 1 2-way available... with Mulder, JTA, and Norvell duking it out?

Edit: Without Curry and Green that's the worst team in the league again. We need a lot from Curry and some serious improvement from our youngsters.


Why do you think we're only carrying 14 players? Since Klay is hurt that means 13.

Because what would be the benefit of carrying more? Its just extra luxury tax and less flexibility, especially when they can dump JTA or Mulder with no penalty. If those guys were significantly better than what was available when dumpster diving then I could see us holding onto them. But I'm not sure they are.


I hope we grab a legit defensive forward, Torrey Craig would be great, and then keep one of Mulder or Ryan Taylor, whichever distinguishes himself in training camp, for our 14th and 15th roster spots. If we're going to compete for a top-4 playoff spot, we'll likely need more than 13 bodies.
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Post#380 » by InWestWeTrust » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:39 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
Coxy wrote:I have literally never seen Wanamaker play. In Myers I trust however.

At least it wasn’t Lin.


He's a tough-nosed defensive oriented PG with a 2.5-1.1 assist-turnover ratio. He also shot 93% from the line.

Celtics fans are cheering the Teague over Wanamaker signing and I have no idea why. Teague is horrible. He defends like the smurfiest PGs in the league, -4.19 DRPM to Wanamaker's -1.87.

I am thrilled we ended up with Wanamaker instead of Teague.


I saw that and was surprised.

I would've been upset if we got him instead of Wanamaker

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