whatisacenter wrote:Mylie10 wrote:GSWFan1994 wrote:You know what's funny?
Lots of people who are saying "LaMelo was the right pick all along, Wiseman sucks" were the same people who said Isaac Okoro was a clear cut top 3 pick too. There were even members here who said he deserved to be the #1 pick.
If Wiseman was a wasted pick and probable bust according to some, what about Okoro, who's averaging 8/3/2 in 32mpg, including an awesome 7,2 PER?
There was only one Okorostan and sadly I haven’t heard from him in some time...I hope he’s ok.
But to be clear on Okoro.....he’s started all year. So he IS making an impact. Which right now looks bad, but as a rookie playing 32 minutes per game, that’s impressive. So looking at raw numbers maybe isn’t the best way to gauge Okoro.
same, I haven't heard from digger in quite some time.
Sorry for the late reply, work took its toll the last few days.
Yes, I remember reading Little Digger was high on Okoro. But he changed his opinion lots of time during (before) the draft, and I wasn't talking specifically about him. I clearly remember reading there were quite a few people placing Okoro as a top 3 pick at that time.
Okoro plays hard, is athletic, a good defender. But has a short wingspan and seems very undersized for his position. I believe eventually the Cavs will trade one of Sexton or Garland, and put Okoro as the SG. I don't know, he seems very underwhelming to me. His actual production isn't nothing to write about. And when he was in college it seemed like that too.
Just to make it clear, my big board for this past draft was:
1. Wiseman
2. Edwards
3. Haliburton
4. Okongwu
5. Avdija
6. LaMelo
The rest I don't remember so well. But I remember I had Patrick Williams in the top 10, and Poku in the 12/14 range.
As for Wiseman: 12/6 + 1 block in 21 mpg, with a 13 PER, as a 19 year old, seems good enough to me.
I fully understand many of the other advanced stats, like BPM, VORP, etc are not good, but I simply don't care about them
at this time in his career trajectory & development.
I remember when Kevin Durant was in his earlier years, and there was an article at True Hoop saying he had a negative plus/minus, this & that, etc. He turned out pretty fine in my view.
Those who follow the history of the NBA knows there are countless examples of players who had a great spike in production somewhere in their careers, mainly in the first 3/4 years. Just recently we had Giannis, who I absolutely believe 0,00001% of the fans imagined would turn up his production like the MVP and all-timer he reached the past 2/3 years.
Obviously I'm not comparing Wiseman to Giannis. I'm just saying I believe in his potencial, and shall I say again, I fully think he will reach borderline All-Star status (top 25/30 in a given year) by year 4 or 5, barring injury. The potential is just too great to ignore.
Cheers, Mylie.
